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This was a big fucking nothing. No one should be fired. No one should have called the police. And filming to dox people? Thus is such a stupid incident.

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Come on.

He was a puss for complaining about the dog.

I'm sorry, but not respecting that many don't like dogs off the leash in a public park where it is a bit myopic.

It reminds me of the question some have when in the presence of an unfamiliar dog: "does he bite?", to which I'd respond: yeah, he eats.

But that goes out of the window to MANY around here when some rude bitch has her entitled ness blows up in her face.

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Come on.

He was a puss for complaining about the dog.

I'm sorry, but not respecting that many don't like dogs off the leash in a public park where it is a bit myopic.

It reminds me of the question some have when in the presence of an unfamiliar dog: "does he bite?", to which I'd respond: yeah, he eats.

But that goes out of the window to MANY around here when some rude patriot has her entitled ness blows up in her face.


I think the guy was originally upset because an unleashed dog would prove to be a risk to the birds.


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Come on.

He was a puss for complaining about the dog.

I'm sorry, but not respecting that many don't like dogs off the leash in a public park where it is a bit myopic.

It reminds me of the question some have when in the presence of an unfamiliar dog: "does he bite?", to which I'd respond: yeah, he eats.

But that goes out of the window to MANY around here when some rude patriot has her entitled ness blows up in her face.


I think the guy was originally upset because an unleashed dog would prove to be a risk to the birds.

Yeah, but I can't stomach the blitheness with which many dog owners operate toward others in general.

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I read the story and thought the penalty may have been too harsh. After watching the video I feel COMPLETELY different. She got everything she deserved.

If I were a dispatcher I would have really believed that some crazy black dude (possibly a rapist) was about to harm a woman and her dog. I would have passed that urgent information on to officers. Those officers could have rightly come in hot and killed the guy.

Her entitled ass used racial fears to make a false police report and damn near hanged her dog in the process. She is absolute scum and Carlton did nothing wrong.

She deserves it but I got a heart. She's not all there and I worry there may be too many pills in her medicine cabinet.


Wasn't she an executive? I think that was just the behavior of someone who was entitled. In general I don't think people should lose their jobs for non violent disputes but watching how she turned that character on bothered me because it was absolutely believable.

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Come on.

He was a puss for complaining about the dog.

I'm sorry, but not respecting that many don't like dogs off the leash in a public park where it is a bit myopic.

It reminds me of the question some have when in the presence of an unfamiliar dog: "does he bite?", to which I'd respond: yeah, he eats.

But that goes out of the window to MANY around here when some rude patriot has her entitled ness blows up in her face.


The big thing about this I saw on the news was it was a particular part of Central Park. Very common for bird watching and it’s important dog are leashed so they don’t scare or kill birds.

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 Post subject: Re: Central Park Karen
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Come on.

He was a puss for complaining about the dog.


No doubt Carlton could have ignored her but she was the aggressor. Probably because of knew he was Carton. Even put her leash or hands in his face. No chance she does that to Reggie. Obviously Reggie isn't bird watching but you understand my point.

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Disagree... I love dogs, owned em all my life..some people are scared shitless of dogs( blacks in particular) they've been bitten or attacked as children or young adults.. Leash your dog unless it's completely obedient or on private property.

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Disagree... I love dogs, owned em all my life..some people are scared shitless of dogs( blacks in particular) they've been bitten or attacked as children or young adults.. Leash your dog unless it's completely obedient or on private property.


He was too fucking big to be scared of that tiny dog. Shame on him if he was. I believe it was about the birds. Shame on him for that too.

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Disagree... I love dogs, owned em all my life..some people are scared shitless of dogs( blacks in particular) they've been bitten or attacked as children or young adults.. Leash your dog unless it's completely obedient or on private property.


He was too fucking big to be scared of that tiny dog. Shame on him if he was. I believe it was about the birds. Shame on him for that too.



I didn't see the video.. My buddy sold a cane corso to Eddie Curry about 20 years ago.. 8 weeks old.. My dog was the stud of that litter.. 5 days later E.C. called him to take the pup back.. He was scared shitless of him ( 8.5 weeks old 20 lbs) Curry locked himself in one of his bathrooms and wouldn't come out til he came and removed the puppy..

Dog was a sweetheart btw Curry never asked for his 2500 back either.

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Disagree... I love dogs, owned em all my life..some people are scared shitless of dogs( blacks in particular) they've been bitten or attacked as children or young adults.. Leash your dog unless it's completely obedient or on private property.


He was too fucking big to be scared of that tiny dog. Shame on him if he was. I believe it was about the birds. Shame on him for that too.



I didn't see the video.. My buddy sold a cane corso to Eddie Curry about 20 years ago.. 8 weeks old.. My dog was the stud of that litter.. 5 days later E.C. called him to take the pup back.. He was scared shitless of him ( 8.5 weeks old 20 lbs) Curry locked himself in one of his bathrooms and wouldn't come out til he came and removed the puppy..

Dog was a sweetheart btw


We're talking about Eddy Curry. Is that surprising to you?

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I didn't see the video..im assuming this man was smaller than EC and the dog is bigger than a 8.5 week old Corso.

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Disagree... I love dogs, owned em all my life..some people are scared shitless of dogs( blacks in particular) they've been bitten or attacked as children or young adults.. Leash your dog unless it's completely obedient or on private property.


He was too fucking big to be scared of that tiny dog. Shame on him if he was. I believe it was about the birds. Shame on him for that too.

Pretty sure he wasn't the least bit scared of the dog ... and apparently he's on the bored of the NYC Audubon Society.

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I love dogs and birds btw.. If a cat gets on my property i set the dogs on it.. Cats kill birds for sport.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/26/nyregion/amy-cooper-dog-central-park.html

The encounter appears to have begun as one of those banal and brusque dust-ups between two New Yorkers. A black man, an avid birder, said he had asked a white woman to leash her dog in Central Park. She refused.

Then the encounter, which was recorded on video, took an ugly turn.

As the man, Christian Cooper, filmed on his phone, the woman, clutching her thrashing dog, calls the police, her voice rising in hysteria.

“I’m going to tell them there’s an African-American man threatening my life,” she says to him while dialing, then repeats to the operator, “He’s African-American.”

The video, posted to Twitter on Memorial Day, has been viewed nearly 30 million times, touching off intense discussions about the history of the police being falsely called on black people, sometimes putting their lives in danger.

Shortly after the video was posted by the man’s sister on Monday, someone who said they had been the white woman’s dog walker identified her. The woman’s name, Amy Cooper, soon began trending on Twitter.

By evening, Ms. Cooper was placed on leave by her employer, Franklin Templeton, while the incident was being investigated. Ms. Cooper, who is not related to Mr. Cooper, heads insurance portfolio management at Franklin Templeton, according to her LinkedIn page, and graduated from the University of Chicago Booth School of Business.

On Tuesday afternoon, Franklin Templeton announced that she had been fired.

Internet sleuths digging into Ms. Cooper’s life found an Instagram profile of her cocker spaniel mix and began sharing old photos documenting injuries the dog had suffered.

By nightfall on Monday, she had surrendered the dog, Henry, to the group she had adopted him from two years prior, according to a Facebook post by the group, Abandoned Angels Cocker Spaniel Rescue.

Ms. Cooper apologized, according to NBC, but denied being racist.

“I sincerely and humbly apologize to everyone, especially to that man, his family,” she said to the network. “It was unacceptable and I humbly and fully apologize to everyone who’s seen that video, everyone that’s been offended … everyone who thinks of me in a lower light and I understand why they do.”

Speaking to CNN, Mr. Cooper said he would accept the apology “only if it is genuine and if she plans on keeping her dog on a leash going forward.”

Ms. Cooper and Mr. Cooper did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

The police said they had responded to the report of an assault at about 8:10 a.m.

“Upon arrival, police determined two individuals had engaged in a verbal dispute,” said Sgt. Mary Frances O’Donnell, a spokeswoman for the New York Police Department. No summons were issued and there was no arrest made.

On Facebook, Mr. Cooper posted his version of the exchange in the Ramble, the semi-wild section of Central Park.

Christian Cooper Christian Cooper Mr. Cooper, who works in communications and graduated from Harvard, according to his LinkedIn profile, included his account of the conversation that took place before he began filming.

First he asked her to leash her dog, he said. She refused.

“Look, if you’re going to do what you want, I’m going to do what I want, but you’re not going to like it,” he told her, according to his post.

Mr. Cooper, who is on the board of the New York City Audubon Society, then produced dog treats, which he explained, he carries because it forces owners to leash their dogs to prevent the animal from snacking.

“I pull out the dog treats I carry for just for such intransigence,” he wrote. “That’s when I started video recording with my iPhone, and when her inner Karen fully emerged and took a dark turn,” he said, using the name Karen, which has become slang for an entitled white woman.

Adding to the fractiousness of the exchange is a long history of tension between birders and dog walkers in Central Park, magnified by the fraught climate of the pandemic lockdown. At one point Ms. Cooper, wearing a face mask, lunges toward Mr. Cooper, a behavior that some who viewed the video have called an assault, because of the violation of social distancing that occurs.

“It was particularly a punch in the gut for a lot of people,” said Prof. Katheryn Russell-Brown, the director of the Center for the Study of Race and Race Relations at the University of Florida’s Levin College of Law. “It ties into and taps into a long history of white women in particular falsely accusing black men of crimes that leads to great harm.”

Professor Russell-Brown is the author of “The Color of Crime,” in which she explores the phenomenon of the “racial hoax” in which people fabulate crimes perpetrated by people of another race.

“This is deeply offensive,” she said. “Particularly as we are in a climate writ large of the expendability of black and brown lives in the midst of Covid-19.”

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This was a big fucking nothing. No one should be fired. No one should have called the police. And filming to dox people? Thus is such a stupid incident.

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A couple notes that I picked up on Twitter:

Chris Cooper is a treasure of the NYC birding world.

Beefs between birders and dog owners are common in the park.

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What are the odds that both would have the same last name?

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“It was particularly a punch in the gut for a lot of people,” said Prof. Katheryn Russell-Brown, the director of the Center for the Study of Race and Race Relations at the University of Florida’s Levin College of Law. “It ties into and taps into a long history of white women in particular falsely accusing black men of crimes that leads to great harm.”

Professor Russell-Brown is the author of “The Color of Crime,” in which she explores the phenomenon of the “racial hoax” in which people fabulate crimes perpetrated by people of another race.

“This is deeply offensive,” she said. “Particularly as we are in a climate writ large of the expendability of black and brown lives in the midst of Covid-19.”

Someone tell professor retard that white women do this to everyone.

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Speaking to CNN, Mr. Cooper said he would accept the apology “only if it is genuine and if she plans on keeping her dog on a leash going forward.”

Autism. This is really hardcore black autism, New York had another one of these guys who kept hi-jacking subways. Ultimately harmless, actually kind of a cult hero.


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Truest thing that's ever been posted here.

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What are the odds that both would have the same last name?

It has confused the shit out of me whenever I'm reading about it.


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Look this guy clearly was looking for a confrontation and he got one. Does that excuse her behaviour? No. These are two people that have probably spent the vast majority of their life being told how great they are, UC meets Harvard. I'm sure his birding club gets together and denounces the scourge of canines everywhere.

Anyways, there's no way an NYPD officer would actually think this dude was dangerous. He is basically the American birding equivalent of thirty-something UK rail enthusiasts who camp outside of obscure stations on the Greater Anglia line when they hear some old diesel is being pressed into service because the cheap shitty Chinese ones dont work.


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What are the odds that both would have the same last name?


Yea I love how the article Don pasted clarifies they aren’t related :lol:


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I love dogs and birds btw.. If a cat gets on my property i set the dogs on it.. Cats kill birds for sport.

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Leash your dog unless it's completely obedient or on private property.
I am a dog lover and owner as well, and even on private property the dogs should be leashed unless they are enclosed in a fence. Sometimes it's the other dog that can be a problem. My dog is super friendly with every person and every little kid, but is very dog aggressive. You can have the most obedient dog in the world, but if another dog starts barking and growling at yours you can't really be sure how it's going to react.

My dog is always on a leash 100% of the time. And whenever I walk her I always have mace with me partly because of the coyotes in our area, and partly because I never know what dog we may encounter.

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Come on.

He was a puss for complaining about the dog.

I'm sorry, but not respecting that many don't like dogs off the leash in a public park where it is a bit myopic.

It reminds me of the question some have when in the presence of an unfamiliar dog: "does he bite?", to which I'd respond: yeah, he eats.

But that goes out of the window to MANY around here when some rude patriot has her entitled ness blows up in her face.


I think the guy was originally upset because an unleashed dog would prove to be a risk to the birds.

Yeah, but I can't stomach the blitheness with which many dog owners operate toward others in general.

Agree with that.

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I love dogs and birds btw.. If a cat gets on my property i set the dogs on it.. Cats kill birds for sport.

This guy gets it.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... g-all-cats

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