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He deserved to be fired. Full video looks like manslaughter. Don't think the rest of the cops are to blame though.

Yeah, to hell with the protect and serve b.s. in this instance.


Do you deserve to be fired for the mistakes of others? I'm guessing they didn't know what was going on.

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Too many people become police officers for the wrong reason: they want to bully people.

Not all. Not most. But enough. And police forces in challenging neighborhoods take them. (You don't see stories about officer-involved deaths in the mean streets if Winfield...)

The only way to slow this down is to make an example of the bad cops. DA has to bring charges and insist publicly on a maximum sentence for at least voluntary manslaughter for both officers. It doesn't matter if the guy was committing a crime. It doesn't matter if he was resisting arrest. The officers' lives were not in danger.


This is cute.

Thoughtful comment. Care to explain, or just be an ass?


If people in positions of power wanted to make examples of cops they would. Cops being useful to people in positions of power will continue to ensure that meaningful change will not occur.

Who voted in the Mayor? And the DA?

It is like Baltimore. Blame the politicians, don't blame the citizens who voted them in over and over again.

No charges? Vote in a new DA.

Why is this so fucking complicated?

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
Too many people become police officers for the wrong reason: they want to bully people.

Not all. Not most. But enough. And police forces in challenging neighborhoods take them. (You don't see stories about officer-involved deaths in the mean streets if Winfield...)

The only way to slow this down is to make an example of the bad cops. DA has to bring charges and insist publicly on a maximum sentence for at least voluntary manslaughter for both officers. It doesn't matter if the guy was committing a crime. It doesn't matter if he was resisting arrest. The officers' lives were not in danger.


This is cute.

Thoughtful comment. Care to explain, or just be an ass?


If people in positions of power wanted to make examples of cops they would. Cops being useful to people in positions of power will continue to ensure that meaningful change will not occur.

Who voted in the Mayor? And the DA?

It is like Baltimore. Blame the politicians, don't blame the citizens who voted them in over and over again.

No charges? Vote in a new DA.

Why is this so fucking complicated?


Yes. Running on a social justice platform is really paying dividends these days.

Really hard to get the backing of the police union when you promise them that you're going to hold them accountable for their misdeeds.

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 Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II
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SpiralStairs wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
Too many people become police officers for the wrong reason: they want to bully people.

Not all. Not most. But enough. And police forces in challenging neighborhoods take them. (You don't see stories about officer-involved deaths in the mean streets if Winfield...)

The only way to slow this down is to make an example of the bad cops. DA has to bring charges and insist publicly on a maximum sentence for at least voluntary manslaughter for both officers. It doesn't matter if the guy was committing a crime. It doesn't matter if he was resisting arrest. The officers' lives were not in danger.


This is cute.

Thoughtful comment. Care to explain, or just be an ass?


If people in positions of power wanted to make examples of cops they would. Cops being useful to people in positions of power will continue to ensure that meaningful change will not occur.

Who voted in the Mayor? And the DA?

It is like Baltimore. Blame the politicians, don't blame the citizens who voted them in over and over again.

No charges? Vote in a new DA.

Why is this so fucking complicated?


Yes. Running on a social justice platform is really paying dividends these days.

Really hard to get the backing of the police union when you promise them that you're going to hold them accountable for their misdeeds.
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He deserved to be fired. Full video looks like manslaughter. Don't think the rest of the cops are to blame though.

Yeah, to hell with the protect and serve b.s. in this instance.


Do you deserve to be fired for the mistakes of others? I'm guessing they didn't know what was going on.


They stood there and did nothing. That's complicity in any court. I'd even think about charging the citizens taking the video, but at least they were verbally trying to stop it and they also had an extreme risk of death if they did try to physically stop it. All the other cops just had to do was say hey, stop, and the guy would have lived.

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 Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II
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SpiralStairs wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
Too many people become police officers for the wrong reason: they want to bully people.

Not all. Not most. But enough. And police forces in challenging neighborhoods take them. (You don't see stories about officer-involved deaths in the mean streets if Winfield...)

The only way to slow this down is to make an example of the bad cops. DA has to bring charges and insist publicly on a maximum sentence for at least voluntary manslaughter for both officers. It doesn't matter if the guy was committing a crime. It doesn't matter if he was resisting arrest. The officers' lives were not in danger.


This is cute.

Thoughtful comment. Care to explain, or just be an ass?


If people in positions of power wanted to make examples of cops they would. Cops being useful to people in positions of power will continue to ensure that meaningful change will not occur.

Who voted in the Mayor? And the DA?

It is like Baltimore. Blame the politicians, don't blame the citizens who voted them in over and over again.

No charges? Vote in a new DA.

Why is this so fucking complicated?


Yes. Running on a social justice platform is really paying dividends these days.

Really hard to get the backing of the police union when you promise them that you're going to hold them accountable for their misdeeds.

Oh, so the Democratic candidates need their money and votes from the public sector unions, and if some poor black guy dies, hey gotta protect that sweet union money.

At least Chicagoans chased Rahm out of town.

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 Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II
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Well...yeah.

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 Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II
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Some good news


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 Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II
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Where is the full video? I think any murder charges would be a ticket to freedom.

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Not cool. You're better than this.

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Not cool. You're better than this.

becoming targets is the only thing that is going to bring about police reform. Lawsuits sure as fuck won't do it when qualified immunity is a thing.

Criminal prosecutions are garbage as DA's intentionally tank these cases because they need the police on their side for every other case.

Just look at how the union in Minneapolis has jumped to defend the murderers.

When more cops end up in body bags, change may actually come.

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 Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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He deserved to be fired. Full video looks like manslaughter. Don't think the rest of the cops are to blame though.

Yeah, to hell with the protect and serve b.s. in this instance.


Do you deserve to be fired for the mistakes of others? I'm guessing they didn't know what was going on.


Absolutely... Especially when your inaction led to an unnecessary death.

Maybe you shouldn't guess in this case.

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 Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Nas wrote:
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Some good news



Not cool. You're better than this.

becoming targets is the only thing that is going to bring about police reform. Lawsuits sure as fuck won't do it when qualified immunity is a thing.

Criminal prosecutions are garbage as DA's intentionally tank these cases because they need the police on their side for every other case.

Just look at how the union in Minneapolis has jumped to defend the murderers.

When more cops end up in body bags, change may actually come.


They're targets every day. Holding the fuck ups accountable and likely better training is how you bring about change.

If the union did anything else every cop should demand a refund of dues.

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Not cool. You're better than this.


In Ogie's libertarian dreamscape there will be no need for police because there will be private mercenaries who would NEVER do anything bad! NEVER!

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"I can't breathe" was a great slogan for NYPD a few months back when dozens of them were ending up on ventilators with Covid. Some might have called it poetic justice.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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He deserved to be fired. Full video looks like manslaughter. Don't think the rest of the cops are to blame though.

Yeah, to hell with the protect and serve b.s. in this instance.


Do you deserve to be fired for the mistakes of others? I'm guessing they didn't know what was going on.

You're taking full and asswipe crowns without challenge here you bigoted shitstain. You're asking why a cop should be able to be expected to look out for a guy not even charged with a non violent crime.

You really are a piece of shit. Maybe the biggest in board history.

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The four officers were "separated from employment," Officer Garrett Parten, a police spokesman, said Tuesday.


https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/05/26/us/m ... index.html

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Regular Reader wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
He deserved to be fired. Full video looks like manslaughter. Don't think the rest of the cops are to blame though.

Yeah, to hell with the protect and serve b.s. in this instance.


Do you deserve to be fired for the mistakes of others? I'm guessing they didn't know what was going on.

You're taking full and asswipe crowns without challenge here you bigoted shitstain. You're asking why a cop should be able to be expected to look out for a guy not even charged with a non violent crime.

You really are a piece of shit. Maybe the biggest in board history.


I'm sure Nas will lecture you about being angry and having character flaws. You got a pass for telling Leash to drink himself to death. It doesn't matter what you say it seems. No matter how angry or aggressive.

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Protesters filled the intersection where Floyd died, carrying banners that read, "I can’t breathe" and "Jail killer KKKops." They later marched to a police station where officers in riot gear confronted them and deployed tear gas and fired projectiles. As rain fell, some protesters kicked canisters toward police.


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Good thing the protesters didn't walk into a statehouse carrying guns!

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Good thing the protesters didn't walk into a statehouse carrying guns!

:lol:

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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He deserved to be fired. Full video looks like manslaughter. Don't think the rest of the cops are to blame though.

Yeah, to hell with the protect and serve b.s. in this instance.


Do you deserve to be fired for the mistakes of others? I'm guessing they didn't know what was going on.

You're taking full and asswipe crowns without challenge here you bigoted shitstain. You're asking why a cop should be able to be expected to look out for a guy not even charged with a non violent crime.

You really are a piece of shit. Maybe the biggest in board history.


I'm sure Nas will lecture you about being angry and having character flaws. You got a pass for telling Leash to drink himself to death. It doesn't matter what you say it seems. No matter how angry or aggressive.

I just call em like I see em. You probably should quit the board again you joyless, bitter little bastard. You really add nothing to the group.

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Didn't Patton Oswalt's wife die under questionable circumstances?

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I was sad when I finally saw the video on tv. Has anyone seen a real explanation as to why the knee "hold down" continues after he loses consciousness especially when the paramedic is checking for a pulse?

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Ogie, please at least keep those thoughts to yourself for a lot of reasons. It's a bad look all around.

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I just call em like I see em. You probably should quit the board again you joyless, bitter little bastard. You really add nothing to the group.


Waiting for Nas to point out your character flaws.

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Ogie, please at least keep those thoughts to yourself for a lot of reasons. It's a bad look all around.


Ogie would join the war against police, but you know family duty.

These are the reactions you are going to get when the narrative is promoted that the police are out there hunting people.

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Ogie, please at least keep those thoughts to yourself for a lot of reasons. It's a bad look all around.


Ogie would join the war against police, but you know family duty.

These are the reactions you are going to get when the narrative is promoted that the police are out there hunting people.

Ogie IIRC is a member of the IDF. You live a brave life as a racist on the internet.

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