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Something happened. I've seen officers speaking out all day.

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Ogie, your argument falls apart when we remember you stating in the past that you won’t be the one killing police.

You want other people to do it.

I only expect someone with nothing to lose to take such action. Sort of like John Brown at Harper's Ferry. Plenty shared his cause and beliefs, but it took someone who literally had nothing left to lose to do it. There's a reason I compare that great hero of American history to Micah Xavier Johnson


You really are telling on yourself now. You style yourself as a champion of liberty and anti-authoritarianism, but when the rubber meets the road suddenly family obligations trump everything. Really you're a perfect internet libertarian in that you'd gladly pay other people to carry out your plans while you sit at home and get fat off steak.

I am NOT defending cops when I ask this question, but assuming all police are eliminated what takes their place? Its the Bolivian Tree Lizard plan from The Simpsons at the end of the day.

since you are seemingly posting this in good faith, I'll bite.

Before I did have my wife and my family, I did actually sign to put it on the line for something I believe in when I moved to Israel and joined the IDF. I'm proud I did it but in my current life position, I wouldn't do it as you take on other responsibilities when you become a husband and father and yes those responsibilities trump any political belief. If that makes me a coward, so be it, I've already signed to put my life at risk for one cause I believe in and that was fulfilling enough when I had the chance. That's more than most will do in their lives and it's something I'm proud of.

As for police, I've never advocated getting rid of them. I would very quickly change my tune if our society and legal system held police to the same standard that you or I are held to. As it stands, police seemingly have a license to rob, kill, and get away with just about any other crime you can name. If courts in this country regularly held people like the cop who murdered Philando Castile responsible for their actions, I would have a different approach, but pretty much every thing I have seen in my life has given me no hope of that happening anytime soon. Qualified immunity is still a thing and departments line up to defend their worst.


Police will never be held to the same legal standard as private citizens because there is no value in doing so. This would be even more true if police were to be privatized. That being the case, how do you live in the world knowing that your continued existence will effectuate absolutely zero meaningful change?

It sounds like you are saying Ogie is full of it because he says he would change if x happened, but he knows x (i.e., cops are stripped of qualified immunity) won't happen, so his promise to "change his tune" is an empty one. Is that what you are saying, SS? I was just curious.


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When you have SecondcityCop bail on you this quickly, you are probably fucked.



Something happened. I've seen officers speaking out all day.

The indifferent brutality seems to have freaked people out.


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Ogie, your argument falls apart when we remember you stating in the past that you won’t be the one killing police.

You want other people to do it.

I only expect someone with nothing to lose to take such action. Sort of like John Brown at Harper's Ferry. Plenty shared his cause and beliefs, but it took someone who literally had nothing left to lose to do it. There's a reason I compare that great hero of American history to Micah Xavier Johnson


You really are telling on yourself now. You style yourself as a champion of liberty and anti-authoritarianism, but when the rubber meets the road suddenly family obligations trump everything. Really you're a perfect internet libertarian in that you'd gladly pay other people to carry out your plans while you sit at home and get fat off steak.

I am NOT defending cops when I ask this question, but assuming all police are eliminated what takes their place? Its the Bolivian Tree Lizard plan from The Simpsons at the end of the day.

since you are seemingly posting this in good faith, I'll bite.

Before I did have my wife and my family, I did actually sign to put it on the line for something I believe in when I moved to Israel and joined the IDF. I'm proud I did it but in my current life position, I wouldn't do it as you take on other responsibilities when you become a husband and father and yes those responsibilities trump any political belief. If that makes me a coward, so be it, I've already signed to put my life at risk for one cause I believe in and that was fulfilling enough when I had the chance. That's more than most will do in their lives and it's something I'm proud of.

As for police, I've never advocated getting rid of them. I would very quickly change my tune if our society and legal system held police to the same standard that you or I are held to. As it stands, police seemingly have a license to rob, kill, and get away with just about any other crime you can name. If courts in this country regularly held people like the cop who murdered Philando Castile responsible for their actions, I would have a different approach, but pretty much every thing I have seen in my life has given me no hope of that happening anytime soon. Qualified immunity is still a thing and departments line up to defend their worst.


Police will never be held to the same legal standard as private citizens because there is no value in doing so. This would be even more true if police were to be privatized. That being the case, how do you live in the world knowing that your continued existence will effectuate absolutely zero meaningful change?

It sounds like you are saying Ogie is full of it because he says he would change if x happened, but he knows x (i.e., cops are stripped of qualified immunity) won't happen, so his promise to "change his tune" is an empty one. Is that what you are saying, SS? I was just curious.


Essentially yes. Ogie says he'd change his pro-kill cops outlook if they were held to the same legal standard as you or I. Except Ogie knows that cops will never be held to that standard because he knows there is value in cops being immune from that standard. That immunity is where authoritarians (cops in this instance) are able to exercise power over others. This is true regardless of whether the authority is public or private.

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Saw on tv lot of looting. The local minn target. These guys Who are looters are scum. They don’t give a shit about what happened.

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Saw on tv lot of looting. The local minn target. These guys Who are looters are scum. They don’t give a shit about what happened.

Why isn’t that cop in Jail for murder?


That Target could have been someone's son!

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Something happened. I've seen officers speaking out all day.


Tim Cotton is a detective in Bangor, Maine. For a number of years, he was the Public Information Officer, and somehow ended up managing the agency's Facebook page. He is a very good writer and generally a humorist (he was a local radio guy before becoming an officer), and he built Bangor's presence up online through his humor-tinged wriiting about the Department and its efforts. So much so that he's spoken at major conferences about social engagement, and has written a book that is coming out this fall about his experiences as a cop. I learned about him from Mike Rowe a few years ago. He's a good follow.

On his personal page, he comes out very strongly against this cop:
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My opinions and observations regarding other law enforcement agencies and officers tends to be placed into an imaginary binder that I keep tucked behind the seat of my pickup truck.

I wait before commenting on anything, because usually there is information that might not revealed on a first pass.

Minneapolis is different. I have no firsthand knowledge of what led to the incident, but nothing merits anything that I observed.

I know there are cops who make mistakes. I make mistakes. My professional comrades make mistakes. What I saw was not a mistake. It wasn't a lack of training. What I saw was horrific, and evil.

I know what I would have done if I had been there, but it doesn't matter, because I wasn't there. Society has every right to be disgusted and demand that justice be quickly served.

George Floyd deserved to be here today. Society, and his family should be both heartbroken and outraged.

Now, we have to be better. We have to make sure that we cleanse our ranks from those who should never have done this job.

What you should also know is that we do our best to keep the wrong people out of this career field. We have an arduous interview process, polygraph exams, psychological examinations, physical testing, and yet, we still sometimes employee persons who should not be in the field.

We recruit from the human race, and we don't always get it right. We need to do better to rid the ranks of those who do not have the ability to control themselves as well as those who do not have the internal fire to intercede when the going gets tough.

There are days that I wish I had retired five years ago; May 25th 2020 was one of those days.

I know I speak for most cops when I say, I am so sorry that we didn't do better.

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When you have SecondcityCop bail on you this quickly, you are probably fucked.



Something happened. I've seen officers speaking out all day.

The indifferent brutality seems to have freaked people out.

Good observation. The continuing to kneel on a dead guy's neck and look so nonchalant. It's the lasting image of the video.

Like an African safari trophy photo


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Nas wrote:
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When you have SecondcityCop bail on you this quickly, you are probably fucked.



Something happened. I've seen officers speaking out all day.

The indifferent brutality seems to have freaked people out.

Good observation. The continuing to kneel on a dead guy's neck and look so nonchalant. It's the lasting image of the video.

Like an African safari trophy photo


My wife, my son, and I were talking about this as we watched that sickening video. My son said that no way would he stand by and watch that guy get strangled to death and I agreed. Both of us would somehow have stopped that cop from killing that guy even if it meant getting arrested or hurt ourselves. Sometimes people have to step and and stop this kind of shit from happening. The look on that cops face as that guy was telling him that he couldn't breathe was frightening. And how that cop leaned to bring more pressure to that guy's neck was disgusting. That cop should have been stopped by the other cops and immediately arrested and put in jail. No bail. It was as awful a video that I have ever seen.

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When you have SecondcityCop bail on you this quickly, you are probably fucked.



Something happened. I've seen officers speaking out all day.

The indifferent brutality seems to have freaked people out.


No I think it was so clearly wrong people feel sad this man died.

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When you have SecondcityCop bail on you this quickly, you are probably fucked.

Something happened. I've seen officers speaking out all day.
I've seen a few speaking out as well.

Its too bad George Floyd did not get to have his day in court.

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Nardi, you are freaking me out. I was thinking of something eerily similar.

@Spiralstein Stairs: Makes sense. Thanks for explaining.

@Chet Coppock: Interesting share...

@The Hawkeroo: Yeah, the other cops . . . it's sickening. But often being a subordinate makes you act like a subordinate, afraid to assert yourself, which goes against so many of the morals we are raised with but is a pretty common psychological phenomenon. People who can be assertive despite their status have balls. I hope if I am ever in a situation that calls for this, I act this way. Also, so many people are forced to eat sh*t at their jobs, to go along with what the boss says, that maybe you get used to not standing up to authority or become paralyzed because you know the blowback will be intense. Sometimes asserting yourself can be downright foolish (if you're trying to keep your job).

You'd think that people would be trained, though, so that this doesn't matter; you'd think that cops would be trained to act if they saw a colleague acting like this. Will be interesting to hear what the cops themselves say, what they were thinking...


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Nas wrote:
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When you have SecondcityCop bail on you this quickly, you are probably fucked.



Something happened. I've seen officers speaking out all day.


It’s egregious and probably the most clear incident. Like they wrote, it makes their job harder...as a heightened anxiety summer starts

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Ogie, your argument falls apart when we remember you stating in the past that you won’t be the one killing police.

You want other people to do it.

I only expect someone with nothing to lose to take such action. Sort of like John Brown at Harper's Ferry. Plenty shared his cause and beliefs, but it took someone who literally had nothing left to lose to do it. There's a reason I compare that great hero of American history to Micah Xavier Johnson


You really are telling on yourself now. You style yourself as a champion of liberty and anti-authoritarianism, but when the rubber meets the road suddenly family obligations trump everything. Really you're a perfect internet libertarian in that you'd gladly pay other people to carry out your plans while you sit at home and get fat off steak.

I am NOT defending cops when I ask this question, but assuming all police are eliminated what takes their place? Its the Bolivian Tree Lizard plan from The Simpsons at the end of the day.

since you are seemingly posting this in good faith, I'll bite.

Before I did have my wife and my family, I did actually sign to put it on the line for something I believe in when I moved to Israel and joined the IDF. I'm proud I did it but in my current life position, I wouldn't do it as you take on other responsibilities when you become a husband and father and yes those responsibilities trump any political belief. If that makes me a coward, so be it, I've already signed to put my life at risk for one cause I believe in and that was fulfilling enough when I had the chance. That's more than most will do in their lives and it's something I'm proud of.

As for police, I've never advocated getting rid of them. I would very quickly change my tune if our society and legal system held police to the same standard that you or I are held to. As it stands, police seemingly have a license to rob, kill, and get away with just about any other crime you can name. If courts in this country regularly held people like the cop who murdered Philando Castile responsible for their actions, I would have a different approach, but pretty much every thing I have seen in my life has given me no hope of that happening anytime soon. Qualified immunity is still a thing and departments line up to defend their worst.

So what are your thoughts on Palestinians clashing with the IDF? Isn't that what you are advocating for here with the killing of police officers? A group with nothing left to lose targeting their perceived oppressors?


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Franky T wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Ogie, your argument falls apart when we remember you stating in the past that you won’t be the one killing police.

You want other people to do it.

I only expect someone with nothing to lose to take such action. Sort of like John Brown at Harper's Ferry. Plenty shared his cause and beliefs, but it took someone who literally had nothing left to lose to do it. There's a reason I compare that great hero of American history to Micah Xavier Johnson


You really are telling on yourself now. You style yourself as a champion of liberty and anti-authoritarianism, but when the rubber meets the road suddenly family obligations trump everything. Really you're a perfect internet libertarian in that you'd gladly pay other people to carry out your plans while you sit at home and get fat off steak.

I am NOT defending cops when I ask this question, but assuming all police are eliminated what takes their place? Its the Bolivian Tree Lizard plan from The Simpsons at the end of the day.

since you are seemingly posting this in good faith, I'll bite.

Before I did have my wife and my family, I did actually sign to put it on the line for something I believe in when I moved to Israel and joined the IDF. I'm proud I did it but in my current life position, I wouldn't do it as you take on other responsibilities when you become a husband and father and yes those responsibilities trump any political belief. If that makes me a coward, so be it, I've already signed to put my life at risk for one cause I believe in and that was fulfilling enough when I had the chance. That's more than most will do in their lives and it's something I'm proud of.

As for police, I've never advocated getting rid of them. I would very quickly change my tune if our society and legal system held police to the same standard that you or I are held to. As it stands, police seemingly have a license to rob, kill, and get away with just about any other crime you can name. If courts in this country regularly held people like the cop who murdered Philando Castile responsible for their actions, I would have a different approach, but pretty much every thing I have seen in my life has given me no hope of that happening anytime soon. Qualified immunity is still a thing and departments line up to defend their worst.

So what are your thoughts on Palestinians clashing with the IDF? Isn't that what you are advocating for here with the killing of police officers? A group with nothing left to lose targeting their perceived oppressors?


If this post is responded to it's going to be a lot of gish gallop arguing why the IDF is in the right, but at the end of the day you can chalk it up to tribalism. Tribalism conquers all.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Ogie, your argument falls apart when we remember you stating in the past that you won’t be the one killing police.

You want other people to do it.

I only expect someone with nothing to lose to take such action. Sort of like John Brown at Harper's Ferry. Plenty shared his cause and beliefs, but it took someone who literally had nothing left to lose to do it. There's a reason I compare that great hero of American history to Micah Xavier Johnson


You really are telling on yourself now. You style yourself as a champion of liberty and anti-authoritarianism, but when the rubber meets the road suddenly family obligations trump everything. Really you're a perfect internet libertarian in that you'd gladly pay other people to carry out your plans while you sit at home and get fat off steak.

I am NOT defending cops when I ask this question, but assuming all police are eliminated what takes their place? Its the Bolivian Tree Lizard plan from The Simpsons at the end of the day.

since you are seemingly posting this in good faith, I'll bite.

Before I did have my wife and my family, I did actually sign to put it on the line for something I believe in when I moved to Israel and joined the IDF. I'm proud I did it but in my current life position, I wouldn't do it as you take on other responsibilities when you become a husband and father and yes those responsibilities trump any political belief. If that makes me a coward, so be it, I've already signed to put my life at risk for one cause I believe in and that was fulfilling enough when I had the chance. That's more than most will do in their lives and it's something I'm proud of.

As for police, I've never advocated getting rid of them. I would very quickly change my tune if our society and legal system held police to the same standard that you or I are held to. As it stands, police seemingly have a license to rob, kill, and get away with just about any other crime you can name. If courts in this country regularly held people like the cop who murdered Philando Castile responsible for their actions, I would have a different approach, but pretty much every thing I have seen in my life has given me no hope of that happening anytime soon. Qualified immunity is still a thing and departments line up to defend their worst.

So what are your thoughts on Palestinians clashing with the IDF? Isn't that what you are advocating for here with the killing of police officers? A group with nothing left to lose targeting their perceived oppressors?

They've been offered 1967 lines with land swaps on multiple occasions so they were granted what their demands were but walked away from the table as their true intention is the destruction of Israel. Quite simply, they made their bed and they can sleep in it now.

As things stand now, there are absolutely no Israelis in Gaza. In the West Bank, Area A and most of Area B is under complete PA control and administration

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I am a person who naturally respects authority. I try to see things from the officers perspective as well. I usually fall back on that the person didn’t wake up that morning wanting to kill someone. I cannot say that in this guys case

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Franky T wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Ogie, your argument falls apart when we remember you stating in the past that you won’t be the one killing police.

You want other people to do it.

I only expect someone with nothing to lose to take such action. Sort of like John Brown at Harper's Ferry. Plenty shared his cause and beliefs, but it took someone who literally had nothing left to lose to do it. There's a reason I compare that great hero of American history to Micah Xavier Johnson


You really are telling on yourself now. You style yourself as a champion of liberty and anti-authoritarianism, but when the rubber meets the road suddenly family obligations trump everything. Really you're a perfect internet libertarian in that you'd gladly pay other people to carry out your plans while you sit at home and get fat off steak.

I am NOT defending cops when I ask this question, but assuming all police are eliminated what takes their place? Its the Bolivian Tree Lizard plan from The Simpsons at the end of the day.

since you are seemingly posting this in good faith, I'll bite.

Before I did have my wife and my family, I did actually sign to put it on the line for something I believe in when I moved to Israel and joined the IDF. I'm proud I did it but in my current life position, I wouldn't do it as you take on other responsibilities when you become a husband and father and yes those responsibilities trump any political belief. If that makes me a coward, so be it, I've already signed to put my life at risk for one cause I believe in and that was fulfilling enough when I had the chance. That's more than most will do in their lives and it's something I'm proud of.

As for police, I've never advocated getting rid of them. I would very quickly change my tune if our society and legal system held police to the same standard that you or I are held to. As it stands, police seemingly have a license to rob, kill, and get away with just about any other crime you can name. If courts in this country regularly held people like the cop who murdered Philando Castile responsible for their actions, I would have a different approach, but pretty much every thing I have seen in my life has given me no hope of that happening anytime soon. Qualified immunity is still a thing and departments line up to defend their worst.

So what are your thoughts on Palestinians clashing with the IDF? Isn't that what you are advocating for here with the killing of police officers? A group with nothing left to lose targeting their perceived oppressors?

They've been offered 1967 lines with land swaps on multiple occasions so they were granted what their demands were but walked away from the table as their true intention is the destruction of Israel. Quite simply, they made their bed and they can sleep in it now.

As things stand now, there are absolutely no Israelis in Gaza. In the West Bank, Area A and most of Area B is under complete PA control and administration


Fuck the police...except the police force I actively sought to join

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I am a person who naturally respects authority. I try to see things from the officers perspective as well. I usually fall back on that the person didn’t wake up that morning wanting to kill someone. I cannot say that in this guys case

I would think he would’ve picked a far less public spot , a much more deserving person and a more “ justified” circumstance had that been the case

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good dolphin wrote:
I am a person who naturally respects authority. I try to see things from the officers perspective as well. I usually fall back on that the person didn’t wake up that morning wanting to kill someone. I cannot say that in this guys case

I would think he would’ve picked a far less public spot , a much more deserving person and a more “ justified” circumstance had that been the case


It appears your thoughts don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world.

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They've been offered 1967 lines with land swaps on multiple occasions so they were granted what their demands were but walked away from the table as their true intention is the destruction of Israel. Quite simply, they made their bed and they can sleep in it now.

As things stand now, there are absolutely no Israelis in Gaza. In the West Bank, Area A and most of Area B is under complete PA control and administration


Fuck the police...except the police force I actively sought to join

I don't think being in an infantry brigade standing across from Hezbollah on the Lebanese border even remotely resembles police work.

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badrogue17 wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
I am a person who naturally respects authority. I try to see things from the officers perspective as well. I usually fall back on that the person didn’t wake up that morning wanting to kill someone. I cannot say that in this guys case

I would think he would’ve picked a far less public spot , a much more deserving person and a more “ justified” circumstance had that been the case


You take your opportunity as it comes

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
They've been offered 1967 lines with land swaps on multiple occasions so they were granted what their demands were but walked away from the table as their true intention is the destruction of Israel. Quite simply, they made their bed and they can sleep in it now.

As things stand now, there are absolutely no Israelis in Gaza. In the West Bank, Area A and most of Area B is under complete PA control and administration


Fuck the police...except the police force I actively sought to join

I don't think being in an infantry brigade standing across from Hezbollah on the Lebanese border even remotely resembles police work.


Of course you dont

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badrogue17 wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
I am a person who naturally respects authority. I try to see things from the officers perspective as well. I usually fall back on that the person didn’t wake up that morning wanting to kill someone. I cannot say that in this guys case

I would think he would’ve picked a far less public spot , a much more deserving person and a more “ justified” circumstance had that been the case


It appears your thoughts don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world.

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