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This happened on May 25th right.

All 4 cops were fired on May 26th, and the murderer/manslaughterer was arrested on May 29th.

Is that not swift justice?

Not really.

If you, I, and two other posters here did this and were caught on video murdering this man on May 26th, we would've spent that very night in prison with charges steeper than 3rd degree murder. We also probably get a higher bail set.

Indictments aren't enough for the people of Minneapolis. They have seen how useless they were in the murder of Philando Castile. They know the history and how most cops end up walking in these cases. The DA will throw the case because the DA needs he friends of this murderer to cooperate for every other case he has so he can't afford pissing them off.

After Philando Castile's killer walked, I'd say the people of Minneapolis had every right to riot, but they didn't. They sat back and hoped things would change. Well, nothing changed so now all of that pent up and justified anger is being released.

So people should riot when a case goes thru the criminal justice system and the outcome is one they dont like ?

when the outcome is the result of the system being rigged in that manner, absolutely.
Any outcome I don't like means the system is rigged!


Any system that doesn't benefit Trump is considered rigged by you Litigation Notes.

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What's the type of BS elected officials say when they don't want to acknowledge that their own hired hoodlems with badges have created this tension within the community.

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Again, much like the corona virus hysterics, this feels like political leadership on both sides stoking the fires a little bit in an election year.


What happened to those? It's almost like they stopped overnight. Last weekend a couple hundred people getting together at Lake of the Ozarks were going to kill everyone in the country. Suddenly people are elbow to elbow in the streets and the virus is of no concern. I guess the lockdown is over whether anyone likes it or not.

Speaking of LOTO...
A partygoer who attended the now-infamous Lake of the Ozarks pool party has tested positive for COVID-19, meaning hundreds could have been exposed

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80% of the rioters being from out of state seems a bit of a stretch. What about the other dozen cities through out the country?



seems like an odd time to do a census.

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This happened on May 25th right.

All 4 cops were fired on May 26th, and the murderer/manslaughterer was arrested on May 29th.

Is that not swift justice?


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Again, much like the corona virus hysterics, this feels like political leadership on both sides stoking the fires a little bit in an election year.


What happened to those? It's almost like they stopped overnight. Last weekend a couple hundred people getting together at Lake of the Ozarks were going to kill everyone in the country. Suddenly people are elbow to elbow in the streets and the virus is of no concern. I guess the lockdown is over whether anyone likes it or not.

Speaking of LOTO...
A partygoer who attended the now-infamous Lake of the Ozarks pool party has tested positive for COVID-19, meaning hundreds could have been exposed

Which also means that 99% of them will be fine .

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This happened on May 25th right.

All 4 cops were fired on May 26th, and the murderer/manslaughterer was arrested on May 29th.

Is that not swift justice?


"We threw you a bone, now go away!"


Ok good talk.

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This happened on May 25th right.

All 4 cops were fired on May 26th, and the murderer/manslaughterer was arrested on May 29th.

Is that not swift justice?


"We threw you a bone, now go away!"


Ok good talk.


What's the purpose of the question if not that?

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This happened on May 25th right.

All 4 cops were fired on May 26th, and the murderer/manslaughterer was arrested on May 29th.

Is that not swift justice?


"We threw you a bone, now go away!"


Ok good talk.


What's the purpose of the question if not that?


It was literally asking if that is not swift justice in this case.

4 days.

This isn't like other cases where it took months for those in power to act.

The cops were fired within 24 hours and the guy was arrested and charged in 4 days.

And if all of that is not swift enough justice, what would be?

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Need to show more examples of people being good people.

Unfortunately that doesn't generate revenue for news.

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This happened on May 25th right.

All 4 cops were fired on May 26th, and the murderer/manslaughterer was arrested on May 29th.

Is that not swift justice?


"We threw you a bone, now go away!"


Ok good talk.


What's the purpose of the question if not that?


It was literally asking if that is not swift justice in this case.

4 days.

This isn't like other cases where it took months for those in power to act.

The cops were fired within 24 hours and the guy was arrested and charged in 4 days.

And if all of that is not swift enough justice, what would be?


When all that happens plus everyone getting some liquor, an iPhone and a flatscreen .

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Has there been any tantrums from Mayor Lightfoot or Governor Pritzker about the crowds last night?

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American police aren't just pieces of shit to the people they supposedly "protect and serve." They're also giant pieces of shit at home

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/ar ... ds/380329/

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Has there been any tantrums from Mayor Lightfoot or Governor Pritzker about the crowds last night?



I don't know, but cracking down on people going to church or walking on the beach while giving tacit approval to people throwing bricks through store windows is probably not a recipe for reelection.

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Has there been any tantrums from Mayor Lightfoot or Governor Pritzker about the crowds last night?



I don't know, but cracking down on people going to church or walking on the beach while giving tacit approval to people throwing bricks through store windows is probably not a recipe for reelection.


You wouldn't think so, but MANY love it.

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Need to show more examples of people being good people.

Unfortunately that doesn't generate revenue for news.

Indeed.
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Has there been any tantrums from Mayor Lightfoot or Governor Pritzker about the crowds last night?



I don't know, but cracking down on people going to church or walking on the beach while giving tacit approval to people throwing bricks through store windows is probably not a recipe for reelection.

Quite the contrast, is it not?

I feel the sermonizing is over.
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Has there been any tantrums from Mayor Lightfoot or Governor Pritzker about the crowds last night?



I don't know, but cracking down on people going to church or walking on the beach while giving tacit approval to people throwing bricks through store windows is probably not a recipe for reelection.

Quite the contrast, is it not?

I feel the sermonizing is over.


Oh I think if there are crowds on the lakefront, there'll be some sermonizing.

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This happened on May 25th right.

All 4 cops were fired on May 26th, and the murderer/manslaughterer was arrested on May 29th.

Is that not swift justice?


"We threw you a bone, now go away!"


Ok good talk.


What's the purpose of the question if not that?


It was literally asking if that is not swift justice in this case.

4 days.

This isn't like other cases where it took months for those in power to act.

The cops were fired within 24 hours and the guy was arrested and charged in 4 days.

And if all of that is not swift enough justice, what would be?


As others have pointed out, it's likely that this cop and the rest of the officers will walk. This is what happens.

It's not entirely about how swiftly someone was charged. It's about people being tired of it happening.

I can think of about 20 recent cases where we had cringe worthy video or very questionable circumstances and in all but 4 cases they walked. One case involved a woman who wasn't poor in Minnesota, the McDonald case in Chicago and the Dallas case where she accidentally entered the wrong unit. The other case required the Feds to step in because of a hung jury.

The people in these communities just want to be treated the same way as the people in middle class and affluent communities.

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Trump about 5 minutes ago:
"MAGA loves the blacks." "I love Minnesota! I almost won it 4 years ago."

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So people were just looking for an excuse to go crazy, and George Floyd gave them that reason.

That's honest at least.

Thanks for that.

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Trump about 5 minutes ago:
"MAGA loves the blacks." "I love Minnesota! I almost won it 4 years ago."



I had to turn him off just now. If we were being invaded by space aliens he'd be on TV saying he thinks their leader likes him.

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Trump about 5 minutes ago:
"MAGA loves the blacks." "I love Minnesota! I almost won it 4 years ago."



I had to turn him off just now. If we were being invaded by space aliens he'sdbe on TV saying he thinks their leader likes him.

"I like aliens who don't get stranded on distant planets."
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God bless those people protecting that officer.

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So people were just looking for an excuse to go crazy, and George Floyd gave them that reason.

That's honest at least.

Thanks for that.


Bingo. Nothing wrong with protesting, but rioting is another story.

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Trump about 5 minutes ago:
"MAGA loves the blacks." "I love Minnesota! I almost won it 4 years ago."



I had to turn him off just now. If we were being invaded by space aliens he'd be on TV saying he thinks their leader likes him.


He's using the same playbook that was effective when there wasn't multiple crisis and when he wasn't president. It's the Matt Nagy approach to governing.

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It's not entirely about how swiftly someone was charged. It's about people being tired of it happening.


If this is truly the case there will be rioting until the end of time. There is no way you can stop people from making bad decisions or expect them to make the correct choice every time .It also has to stop being perpetuated that this is common behavior and that it happens every single time multiple times per day and only to black people because thats just a flat out untruth. So then it has to go back about being satisfied that the police are charged with the crime, terminated, and the case to go through the court system and whatever the result ends up being, it is.

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