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Was right about the 2nd amendment this entire time. Applying for my FOID card today. I should get approved 6 months after looters murder me.


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Was right about the 2nd amendment this entire time. Applying for my FOID card today. I should get approved 6 months after looters murder me.


Seconded.

And I was wrong for a long time on this issue.

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Yes, literally every argument I had with Darko on this, we have to go back, I was wrong.


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If Darkside was truly right, then why would he or you bother with obtaining a FOID card? It is your right to hold a gun, and why would you trust government bureaucracy to obtain a gun to protect yourself against the same government, and against others when that government fails to protect you?

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Just 3D print one.


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A weapon for home defense was always a good idea. Glad to see you coming to my side.

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 Post subject: Re: Darkside
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If Darkside was truly right, then why would he or you bother with obtaining a FOID card? It is your right to hold a gun, and why would you trust government bureaucracy to obtain a gun to protect yourself against the same government, and against others when that government fails to protect you?

This is true. MANY seem to circumvent that process based on our homicide totals . If you want a gun , you can get a gun !!

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I applied for one (so did my husband) back in mid-march. We are still waiting.


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Caller Bob wrote:
Was right about the 2nd amendment this entire time. Applying for my FOID card today. I should get approved 6 months after looters murder me.

Let's hope you take a gun safety class and educate yourself on how to operate whatever weapon you choose to purchase. Lord knows we don't need more idiots with guns out there.


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Caller Bob wrote:
Was right about the 2nd amendment this entire time. Applying for my FOID card today. I should get approved 6 months after looters murder me.

Let's hope you take a gun safety class and educate yourself on how to operate whatever weapon you choose to purchase. Lord knows we don't need more idiots with guns out there.

Isn’t that mandatory ? Or only so you can C&C ?

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Are bump stocks still legal? Gonna need one of those.


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I applied for one (so did my husband) back in mid-march. We are still waiting.



It’s a ways away. Even renewals take for ever.


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Just 3D print one.

:lol: I wonder if Ogie 3D printed that sweet bike he’s using on those trails .

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I don't think DS got much flak for the self defense angle - I seem to remember the pushback was more about Ogie types saying they could easily take cover behind the local Krispy Kreme and take on the army if they ever came for Ogie's collection.

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I don't think DS got much flak for the self defense angle - I seem to remember the pushback was more about Ogie types saying they could easily take cover behind the local Krispy Kreme and take on the army if they ever came for Ogie's collection.

Kind of like the rioters that most want arrested and/or shot.

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badrogue17 wrote:
Drunk Squirrel wrote:
Just 3D print one.

:lol: I wonder if Ogie 3D printed that sweet bike he’s using on those trails .



Hopefully not the ribeye the was grilling.


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 Post subject: Re: Darkside
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veganfan21 wrote:
I don't think DS got much flak for the self defense angle - I seem to remember the pushback was more about Ogie types saying they could easily take cover behind the local Krispy Kreme and take on the army if they ever came for Ogie's collection.

Kind of like the rioters that most want arrested and/or shot.


Not following?

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badrogue17 wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Was right about the 2nd amendment this entire time. Applying for my FOID card today. I should get approved 6 months after looters murder me.

Let's hope you take a gun safety class and educate yourself on how to operate whatever weapon you choose to purchase. Lord knows we don't need more idiots with guns out there.

Isn’t that mandatory ? Or only so you can C&C ?

Concealed Carry.


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 Post subject: Re: Darkside
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If Darkside was truly right, then why would he or you bother with obtaining a FOID card? It is your right to hold a gun, and why would you trust government bureaucracy to obtain a gun to protect yourself against the same government, and against others when that government fails to protect you?

Why bother with a FOID card? Because its appealing to remain out of jail if you ever do need to protect yourself.
Now I am one who believes that the nature of the FOID act is inherently unconstitutional. If we are to accept that showing an ID card to exercise your right to vote is illegal because the price of the card is prohibitive to a voter, then I propose that having to buy a card to exercise another constitutionally guaranteed right is illegal as well.
But as it is the law of the land, and i intend to follow the rules, inhave obtained the proper credentials.

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 Post subject: Re: Darkside
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Darkside wrote:
IMU wrote:
If Darkside was truly right, then why would he or you bother with obtaining a FOID card? It is your right to hold a gun, and why would you trust government bureaucracy to obtain a gun to protect yourself against the same government, and against others when that government fails to protect you?

Why bother with a FOID card? Because its appealing to remain out of jail if you ever do need to protect yourself.
Now I am one who believes that the nature of the FLID act is inherently unconstitutional. If we are to accept that showing an ID card to exercise your right to vote is illegal because the price of the card is prohibitive to a voter, then I propose that having to buy a card to exercise another constitutionally guaranteed right is illegal as well.
But as it is the law of the land, and i intend to follow the rules, inhave obtained the proper credentials.

And if/when the law of the land changes and the rules are that you must hand over all of your weapons?

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If Darkside was truly right, then why would he or you bother with obtaining a FOID card? It is your right to hold a gun, and why would you trust government bureaucracy to obtain a gun to protect yourself against the same government, and against others when that government fails to protect you?

Why bother with a FOID card? Because its appealing to remain out of jail if you ever do need to protect yourself.
Now I am one who believes that the nature of the FLID act is inherently unconstitutional. If we are to accept that showing an ID card to exercise your right to vote is illegal because the price of the card is prohibitive to a voter, then I propose that having to buy a card to exercise another constitutionally guaranteed right is illegal as well.
But as it is the law of the land, and i intend to follow the rules, inhave obtained the proper credentials.

And if/when the law of the land changes and the rules are that you must hand over all of your weapons?

Then we will have an issue. Thats not just a poorly coded Illinois law, that would require a constitutional amendment. If they can change that one they can change other ones. I've always said that the 2nd amendment is the protector of all the other amendments.

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I've always said that the 2nd amendment is the protector of all the other amendments.

Fuckstick former congressman Joe Walsh also has said that many times :lol:

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
I don't think DS got much flak for the self defense angle - I seem to remember the pushback was more about Ogie types saying they could easily take cover behind the local Krispy Kreme and take on the army if they ever came for Ogie's collection.

Kind of like the rioters that most want arrested and/or shot.


Not following?

It's often the claim that the 2A, in the case of government tyranny, can be used to defend against it. If we believe that minorities feel threatened by the police actions that go beyond what happened in Minnesota then you could say they are doing the same thing that is often cited as a reason for the 2A.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
I don't think DS got much flak for the self defense angle - I seem to remember the pushback was more about Ogie types saying they could easily take cover behind the local Krispy Kreme and take on the army if they ever came for Ogie's collection.

Kind of like the rioters that most want arrested and/or shot.


Not following?

It's often the claim that the 2A, in the case of government tyranny, can be used to defend against it. If we believe that minorities feel threatened by the police actions that go beyond what happened in Minnesota then you could say they are doing the same thing that is often cited as a reason for the 2A.


Looting stores?

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
I don't think DS got much flak for the self defense angle - I seem to remember the pushback was more about Ogie types saying they could easily take cover behind the local Krispy Kreme and take on the army if they ever came for Ogie's collection.

Kind of like the rioters that most want arrested and/or shot.


Not following?

It's often the claim that the 2A, in the case of government tyranny, can be used to defend against it. If we believe that minorities feel threatened by the police actions that go beyond what happened in Minnesota then you could say they are doing the same thing that is often cited as a reason for the 2A.


Looting stores?
I'm referring to what they have done to police stations and other government buildings.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
I don't think DS got much flak for the self defense angle - I seem to remember the pushback was more about Ogie types saying they could easily take cover behind the local Krispy Kreme and take on the army if they ever came for Ogie's collection.

Kind of like the rioters that most want arrested and/or shot.


Not following?

It's often the claim that the 2A, in the case of government tyranny, can be used to defend against it. If we believe that minorities feel threatened by the police actions that go beyond what happened in Minnesota then you could say they are doing the same thing that is often cited as a reason for the 2A.


Looting stores?
I'm referring to what they have done to police stations and other government buildings.


Ah.

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Why are the FOID cards taking so long?



Because Illinois. It’s always taken 6 weeks easy. I think it took 3 months for my renewal. The law allows x amount of working days so covid might have stretched it out more.


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