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You're not gonna get anywhere trying to blame the retard in charge of the Minneapolis PD union for riots that spiraled out of control four hundred miles away. Gotta do better mate.


That is true. IF anyone thinks that the down the road effect of this is going to be good for race relations let alone prosperity in the minority communities they are nuts. There were a lot of back owned and other minority owned businesses ruined last week never to return. ANd where is the money going to come to rebuild throughout these areas? Think the feds are going to do it after the mayors and governors failed to do their job to protect these businesses? Not on your life.

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ill put on my tin foil hat and believe it is plausible foreign actors are working to stir up some of the rioting. just as it wouldnt shock me to learn america does the same to other countries


This happens during elections but unfortunately much or all of the looting appears to be home-grown.

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CPS food program put on hold due to "the evolving nature of activities in the city." Straight out of Orwell.

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at this point i don't think were gonna see anymore financial assistance anywhere. the republicans simply wont allow it. its up to gofundme to provide the support for rebuilding.

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One rumor I did enjoy last night was that Lincoln Park Zoo was looted and the tigers let loose.


I saw a photo of some "kid" leaving some place with what looked like a monkey.


You just lobbed that softball up there for "The Hawk".


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CPS food program put on hold due to "the evolving nature of activities in the city." Straight out of Orwell.


this whole weekend was orwellian. this country is dangerously close to a civil war.

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at this point i don't think were gonna see anymore financial assistance anywhere. the republicans simply wont allow it. its up to gofundme to provide the support for rebuilding.


They are opening things up. Shouldn't the cash registers start ringing as a result?

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at this point i don't think were gonna see anymore financial assistance anywhere. the republicans simply wont allow it. its up to gofundme to provide the support for rebuilding.


They are opening things up. Shouldn't the cash registers start ringing as a result?


Until the looting starts again.

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That what I figured. I watched a Long Beach fire crew trying to put a car fire out before police protection got there. So the fireman had his hose and was trying to douse the fire and a tall black looter ran onto the street and tried to yank the hose from him. They actually had to fight for that hose. A couple of minutes later the cops showed up and the looter got clean away.

I hate to say this but some really innocent people are going to die because of these gangs of criminals committing theft and arson all around the country. It is now officially ANARCHY from what I have seen. These leaderless cities have brought this shit on themselves with this liberal approach to law enforcement.

Are there message boards for racist assholes who claim to have PTSD and have zero thoughts on the actual subject of the board in Long Beach? Or did you get kicked off of all of those before you found a home here?

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CPS food program put on hold due to "the evolving nature of activities in the city." Straight out of Orwell.


Now is the time they should be providing. The gov giveth and taketh away.


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My daughter's best friend's husband is an office in the Long Beach PD

Hopefully they made him out of non flammable materials.


Get the fuck out of here. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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CPS food program put on hold due to "the evolving nature of activities in the city." Straight out of Orwell.


Now is the time they should be providing. The gov giveth and taketh away.


So do companies. My son's job got canceled tonight in LA due to the riots. Major job redoing freezer cabinets and refrigeration to them. ALL TO GIVE BETTER PRODUCTS to area people. And while I am very happy he doesn't have to go into that cess poll tonight, he doesn't get paid as a result and potentially that store may be looted tonight.

Can anyway anywhere tell me that what these "people" are doing is right and justified? ANY OF THEM?

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ill put on my tin foil hat and believe it is plausible foreign actors are working to stir up some of the rioting. just as it wouldnt shock me to learn america does the same to other countries


This happens during elections but unfortunately much or all of the looting appears to be home-grown.


I watched some of the live looting on tv coverage yesterday. The looters were taking things like a case of beer and then walking down the street. Seemed hyper local. I doubt you drive from Arkansas to take a case of beer.

Unfortunately the vast majority of Americans are going to remember the protests as violent, and it will diminish the important message of police reforms and training.

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billypootons wrote:
ill put on my tin foil hat and believe it is plausible foreign actors are working to stir up some of the rioting. just as it wouldnt shock me to learn america does the same to other countries


This happens during elections but unfortunately much or all of the looting appears to be home-grown.


I watched some of the live looting on tv coverage yesterday. The looters were taking things like a case of beer and then walking down the street. Seemed hyper local. I doubt you drive from Arkansas to take a case of beer.

Unfortunately the vast majority of Americans are going to remember the protests as violent, and it will diminish the important message of police reforms and training.


It may have the unintended consequence of leading to more aggressive policing in other cities but I think in Minneapolis there will definitely be reform.

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One rumor I did enjoy last night was that Lincoln Park Zoo was looted and the tigers let loose.


And a guy left.with a monkey.

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billypootons wrote:
ill put on my tin foil hat and believe it is plausible foreign actors are working to stir up some of the rioting. just as it wouldnt shock me to learn america does the same to other countries


This happens during elections but unfortunately much or all of the looting appears to be home-grown.


I watched some of the live looting on tv coverage yesterday. The looters were taking things like a case of beer and then walking down the street. Seemed hyper local. I doubt you drive from Arkansas to take a case of beer.

Unfortunately the vast majority of Americans are going to remember the protests as violent, and it will diminish the important message of police reforms and training.


It may have the unintended consequence of leading to more aggressive policing in other cities but I think in Minneapolis there will definitely be reform.


The Twin cities has a good shot at reform. They are generally progressive.

I was more referring to the average American who viewed that video and was appalled. It will be drowned out as time goes on with the overriding memory being of this violence. Lots of the violence is hitting home to folks I know. One person had their place of business shut down yesterday. There was a local road that had to be closed as a police vehicle was looted of weapons and set on fire. A local restaurant was burned. I picked a great time to head home yesterday.....

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at this point i don't think were gonna see anymore financial assistance anywhere. the republicans simply wont allow it. its up to gofundme to provide the support for rebuilding.

Yup no more stimulus checks

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veganfan21 wrote:
billypootons wrote:
ill put on my tin foil hat and believe it is plausible foreign actors are working to stir up some of the rioting. just as it wouldnt shock me to learn america does the same to other countries


This happens during elections but unfortunately much or all of the looting appears to be home-grown.


I watched some of the live looting on tv coverage yesterday. The looters were taking things like a case of beer and then walking down the street. Seemed hyper local. I doubt you drive from Arkansas to take a case of beer.

Unfortunately the vast majority of Americans are going to remember the protests as violent, and it will diminish the important message of police reforms and training.

The training thing is a myth. One of three that have been blown out of the water in 2 weeks.

Myth #1: Big city white liberals are the black community's friends and advocates(see Central Park Karen)
When the rubber meets the road, they are as racist as the guy in the holler in ol' Kentuck. Just
like the drunk who spews what he really thinks, the segregated white liberal spews what they
really think when they are a-scared.

Myth #2: There 's only a few bad apples in police(Watch three guys do nothing as the bad apple kills)

Myth #3: No amount of training can overcome the fraternity or the culture. There's the thugs in blue, and
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The training thing is a myth. One of three that have been blown out of the water in 2 weeks.

Myth #1: Big city white liberals are the black community's friends and advocates(see Central Park Karen)
When the rubber meets the road, they are as racist as the guy in the holler in ol' Kentuck. Just
like the drunk who spews what he really thinks, the segregated white liberal spews what they
really think when they are a-scared.

Myth #2: There 's only a few bad apples in police(Watch three guys do nothing as the bad apple kills)

Myth #3: No amount of training can overcome the fraternity or the culture. There's the thugs in blue, and
those that cover for them.


I feel we don't hear enough from Black big city cops and how they can affect this.

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ill put on my tin foil hat and believe it is plausible foreign actors are working to stir up some of the rioting. just as it wouldnt shock me to learn america does the same to other countries
JFC.

Next time, put your plastic bag hat on and pull it over your face.


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ill put on my tin foil hat and believe it is plausible foreign actors are working to stir up some of the rioting. just as it wouldnt shock me to learn america does the same to other countries


This happens during elections but unfortunately much or all of the looting appears to be home-grown.


i agree much is, but is it more believable that police officers are breaking windows in plain clothes?


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Nardi wrote:
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veganfan21 wrote:
billypootons wrote:
ill put on my tin foil hat and believe it is plausible foreign actors are working to stir up some of the rioting. just as it wouldnt shock me to learn america does the same to other countries


This happens during elections but unfortunately much or all of the looting appears to be home-grown.


I watched some of the live looting on tv coverage yesterday. The looters were taking things like a case of beer and then walking down the street. Seemed hyper local. I doubt you drive from Arkansas to take a case of beer.

Unfortunately the vast majority of Americans are going to remember the protests as violent, and it will diminish the important message of police reforms and training.

The training thing is a myth. One of three that have been blown out of the water in 2 weeks.

Myth #1: Big city white liberals are the black community's friends and advocates(see Central Park Karen)
When the rubber meets the road, they are as racist as the guy in the holler in ol' Kentuck. Just
like the drunk who spews what he really thinks, the segregated white liberal spews what they
really think when they are a-scared.

Myth #2: There 's only a few bad apples in police(Watch three guys do nothing as the bad apple kills)

Myth #3: No amount of training can overcome the fraternity or the culture. There's the thugs in blue, and
those that cover for them.


But there are far more Republicans that promote aggressive policing however. Make no mistake. This was created by aggressive policing practices. Historic use of aggressive policing practices.

Trump encouraged this by repeatedly endorsing such practices while running for President. He also is an advocate for the behavior of the Minneapolis police dept. Republicans also have repeatedly made it appear that crime is a huge problem which need to be corrected. This despite the fact that crime has been on the decline for years. Particularly homicide rates. That never gets reported.

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ill put on my tin foil hat and believe it is plausible foreign actors are working to stir up some of the rioting. just as it wouldnt shock me to learn america does the same to other countries


This happens during elections but unfortunately much or all of the looting appears to be home-grown.


i agree much is, but is it more believable that police officers are breaking windows in plain clothes?

No, its not more believable at all.


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Canaryville has formed an armed neighborhood watch/patrol. Ex-Military and police. Yeah that is going to turn out well.

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There was a local road that had to be closed as a police vehicle was looted of weapons and set on fire. A local restaurant was burned. I picked a great time to head home yesterday.....


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ill put on my tin foil hat and believe it is plausible foreign actors are working to stir up some of the rioting. just as it wouldnt shock me to learn america does the same to other countries


This happens during elections but unfortunately much or all of the looting appears to be home-grown.


i agree much is, but is it more believable that police officers are breaking windows in plain clothes?


I can totally buy a bunch of out of work and/or out of school misguided dumb youth breaking windows and looting stores more than I can buy a conspiracy theory which says a dark operation across several states was planned and executed only 18 hours after Floyd died.

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My daughter's best friend's husband is an office in the Long Beach PD

Hopefully they made him out of non flammable materials.


Get the fuck out of here. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Is he just a spare office with file cabinets and shit in him, or is there a desk and some chairs and shit that would burn easier?

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denisdman wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
billypootons wrote:
ill put on my tin foil hat and believe it is plausible foreign actors are working to stir up some of the rioting. just as it wouldnt shock me to learn america does the same to other countries


This happens during elections but unfortunately much or all of the looting appears to be home-grown.


I watched some of the live looting on tv coverage yesterday. The looters were taking things like a case of beer and then walking down the street. Seemed hyper local. I doubt you drive from Arkansas to take a case of beer.

Unfortunately the vast majority of Americans are going to remember the protests as violent, and it will diminish the important message of police reforms and training.

The training thing is a myth. One of three that have been blown out of the water in 2 weeks.

Myth #1: Big city white liberals are the black community's friends and advocates(see Central Park Karen)
When the rubber meets the road, they are as racist as the guy in the holler in ol' Kentuck. Just
like the drunk who spews what he really thinks, the segregated white liberal spews what they
really think when they are a-scared.

Myth #2: There 's only a few bad apples in police(Watch three guys do nothing as the bad apple kills)

Myth #3: No amount of training can overcome the fraternity or the culture. There's the thugs in blue, and
those that cover for them.


But there are far more Republicans that promote aggressive policing however. Make no mistake. This was created by aggressive policing practices. Historic use of aggressive policing practices.

Trump encouraged this by repeatedly endorsing such practices while running for President. Republicans also have repeatedly made it appear that crime is a huge problem which need to be corrected. This despite the fact that crime has been on the decline for years. Particularly homicide rates. That never gets reported.


I will agree with you but where the majority of the riots are happening are historically democratic strongholds. When was the last time the Republicans where in charge in Chicago? LA? New York. Come on man, We have to stop taking both the racial bait and the R vs D bait. It is a rich vs poor thing, period.

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This is it, right there.

If you behave like this, you will get no quarter from me. None. No concessions whatsoever. No part of what you do entitles you to the even the least amount of respect.

I do not sympathize, and I will not sympathize with out-and-out criminals, and neither should anyone else.

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