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This is it, right there.

If you behave like this, you will get no quarter from me. None. No concessions whatsoever. No part of what you do entitles you to the even the least amount of respect.

I do not sympathize, and I will not sympathize with out-and-out criminals, and neither should anyone else.


You love Trump and Trump is a crook.

Trump is an egotist for sure, but he is no more a crook than anyone else in Washington, Red or Blue.


He looted his charity fund and he was proven to have done it. He also has scammed the hell out of many a small business owner and he defrauded the good people that paid for Trump University. None of that bothers you.

The argument (both sides do it) only ever seems to be made around here when a Republican is unabashedly guilty of something. Never otherwise.

Oh please. Insert the Name Clinton in that same sentence and it looks the same.

Give me a dose of your ability to be objective: Name 5 things that he has done that you applaud.

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:lol: :lol: She would of course, tweet the same thing if that were true about black men correct?


Maybe not. What's your whataboutism point?

" Much of the destruction " indicates a majority. Where is that happening ? 79th and Cottage ?

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:lol: :lol: She would of course, tweet the same thing if that were true about black men correct?


Maybe not. What's your whataboutism point?

" Much of the destruction " indicates a majority. Where is that happening ? 79th and Cottage ?



Two words you don't seem to have noticed:

"INSTIGATED"

"PERPETUATED"

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:lol: :lol: She would of course, tweet the same thing if that were true about black men correct?


Maybe not. What's your whataboutism point?

" Much of the destruction " indicates a majority. Where is that happening ? 79th and Cottage ?



Two words you don't seem to have noticed:

"INSTIGATED"

"PERPETUATED"
Ooohhh right. So we're back to infantilizing black people who are apparently too stupid to think for themselves and just dance for whitey and do whatever he says and follow blindly. Interesting. Sounds pretty racist to think that way to me.

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Very True. A bastion of deranged DiCaros.

Yes, lets defend them because a drugged-up asshole who should really only represent drugged-up assholes (of all colors) acted like a fuckwad when he got pinched. A sane, non drug-addled person realizes when the tables are turned against them and acts accordingly (don't do anything stupid to put the cop(s) in fear for their lives, get a lawyer, and have your day in court) and does not exacerbate a bunch of armed policemen.

The more we defend people acting like this, the more it will be encouraged.


I wonder what the reaction would have been if Floyd had been arrested for sexual assault, or something more heinous than passing a counterfeit $20. That's what makes Chauvin's act so repulsive...it's hard to imagine how the guy could have that much apparent hatred/contempt/disregard for someone whose crime was relatively minor.

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:lol: :lol: She would of course, tweet the same thing if that were true about black men correct?


Maybe not. What's your whataboutism point?

" Much of the destruction " indicates a majority. Where is that happening ? 79th and Cottage ?



Two words you don't seem to have noticed:

"INSTIGATED"

"PERPETUATED"
Ooohhh right. So we're back to infantilizing black people who are apparently too stupid to think for themselves and just dance for whitey and do whatever he says and follow blindly. Interesting. Sounds pretty racist to think that way to me.


What's so strange?

You and MANY here believe there are bogeymen like Soros and Gates and Clinton pulling strings...and you must rally to battle against them...even after it's been shown to be bullshit.

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This is an unbelievably dumb Tweet. First of all, how can/would she even prove that? Second of all, it's self-defeating in that the follow-up question will inevitably be about which race is more responsible for the looting and property damage, a truly dumb and unhelpful discussion. The question is what does this all mean for the country in the here and now and what do we do moving forward to address all these developments.

Anyway, in Fox News parlance, she should shut up and cut ribbons.

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Ooohhh right. So we're back to infantilizing black people who are apparently too stupid to think for themselves and just dance for whitey and do whatever he says and follow blindly. Interesting. Sounds pretty racist to think that way to me.


I really didn't think "Antifa, Proud Boys, and the Russian government hypnotized black people into being deeply upset" would work at all, let alone work extremely well, and yet...

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:lol: :lol: She would of course, tweet the same thing if that were true about black men correct?


Maybe not. What's your whataboutism point?

" Much of the destruction " indicates a majority. Where is that happening ? 79th and Cottage ?



Two words you don't seem to have noticed:

"INSTIGATED"

"PERPETUATED"
Ooohhh right. So we're back to infantilizing black people who are apparently too stupid to think for themselves and just dance for whitey and do whatever he says and follow blindly. Interesting. Sounds pretty racist to think that way to me.

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Ooohhh right. So we're back to infantilizing black people who are apparently too stupid to think for themselves and just dance for whitey and do whatever he says and follow blindly. Interesting. Sounds pretty racist to think that way to me.


I really didn't think "Antifa, Proud Boys, and the Russian government hypnotized black people into being deeply upset" would work at all, let alone work extremely well, and yet...

Its less about it working and more about who its working on. This is a classic case of democrats pandering desperately to their base with lunatic conspiracy theories that are as comforting as they are obvious. Whatever the opposite of an uncomfortable truth is, that's what this "Russian agents are the actual looters" cope is.

And most people dont buy it. The people who do are the people who they had anyways. I just wonder if they understand how democracy works? That it doesn't matter if you have fifteen or so percent of the population absolutely frothing. Votes are not worth more if they come from people are way more motivated.


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Also the deliberately ambiguous quantifying of "how much" was done by whichever leftist boogeyman she chooses to exploit to her base is illustrative, and probably not subtle enough to be lost on the average person reading it. If she said "most" that would be meaningful, but "much" isn't. Much could be as low as five percent, and if she were ever held accountable (as if we live in a magic fairy tale world where that ever happens) should could just say "Oh, but that is still far too high".

People recognize this bullshit. They really do, and while it plays on Twitter it doesn't play outside of Twitter.


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There's a young woman on White Sox Twitter who is interesting and mostly talks about booze and baseball but I had to unfollow her because she insisted that these protests are being driven by white supremacists. I follow people of all political stripes. I generally don't curate my feed to eliminate shit I disagree with. But something like that is so stupid and so absurd I just can't respect someone who promotes it.

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Very True. A bastion of deranged DiCaros.

Yes, lets defend them because a drugged-up asshole who should really only represent drugged-up assholes (of all colors) acted like a fuckwad when he got pinched. A sane, non drug-addled person realizes when the tables are turned against them and acts accordingly (don't do anything stupid to put the cop(s) in fear for their lives, get a lawyer, and have your day in court) and does not exacerbate a bunch of armed policemen.

The more we defend people acting like this, the more it will be encouraged.


I wonder what the reaction would have been if Floyd had been arrested for sexual assault, or something more heinous than passing a counterfeit $20. That's what makes Chauvin's act so repulsive...it's hard to imagine how the guy could have that much apparent hatred/contempt/disregard for someone whose crime was relatively minor.


This is what I was trying to get at with the Tupac lyric above. I think this also came up before - the idea of police picking on easy targets, whether or black or white or whatever. Welfare abuse is true but corporate tax evasion is far more detrimental to the country. But if you were to add up all the times most everyone has criticized welfare abuse vs corporate tax evasion, you'd find that we're disproportionately focused on the smaller problem of welfare abuse vs the larger corporate tax issue. Why is that? Much like booking a dude for selling weed (if it's between adults, who cares?), it's just easier and simpler to do. This isn't obviously an apples to apples thing because it's not the police's job to police corporate tax evasion, but perhaps there is some truth to the sentiment that poor and minority communities are easier to "pick on," which is why some of these communities have antagonistic relationships with law enforcement.

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Canaryville has formed an armed neighborhood watch/patrol. Ex-Military and police. Yeah that is going to turn out well.

Why is this a bad thing?

When people are in danger, if nobody can protect you, its up to you to protect yourself.

The United States Constitution is an ageless document in that vein.


If you knew the people of that area you would be scared regardless of your skin color

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Very True. A bastion of deranged DiCaros.

Yes, lets defend them because a drugged-up asshole who should really only represent drugged-up assholes (of all colors) acted like a fuckwad when he got pinched. A sane, non drug-addled person realizes when the tables are turned against them and acts accordingly (don't do anything stupid to put the cop(s) in fear for their lives, get a lawyer, and have your day in court) and does not exacerbate a bunch of armed policemen.

The more we defend people acting like this, the more it will be encouraged.


I wonder what the reaction would have been if Floyd had been arrested for sexual assault, or something more heinous than passing a counterfeit $20. That's what makes Chauvin's act so repulsive...it's hard to imagine how the guy could have that much apparent hatred/contempt/disregard for someone whose crime was relatively minor.

Chauvin obviously has his own issues (his actions, especially with cameras rolling right in his face, were markedly callous, probably borderline psychotic, and made the situation much worse than it had to be), but why is nobody asking what happened to get to the point where Floyd had to have 4 guys subduing him in the street? That simply - and I mean it when I say "simply", because it really is that simple - does not happen to the average black person (i.e. a person who is not fucked-up on drugs and who is lawfully conducting themselves).

Why is it lost that the average black person does not typically act like Floyd?

Instead, everybody who is defending him wants to act like their lives are similar to his.

Are they? Really?

I highly doubt it in the majority of cases. If people suffer stigmatizing treatment, it is because of bad eggs like this guy fucking it up for good people.

So, where are the voices of that law-abiding majority whose reputations are tarnished by the miscreants? Why are they not offended to the bone that their reputations will be tarnished by those who care not for one second about such things?

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There's a young woman on White Sox Twitter who is interesting and mostly talks about booze and baseball but I had to unfollow her because she insisted that these protests are being driven by white supremacists. I follow people of all political stripes. I generally don't curate my feed to eliminate shit I disagree with. But something like that is so stupid and so absurd I just can't respect someone who promotes it.

When you see young black people actively looting all over every corner of social media and the news, and then they tell you that those kids are actually white surpemacists...I mean nobody is going to believe that shit except the REALLY hardcore zealots.


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This is all that needs to be said.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
There's a young woman on White Sox Twitter who is interesting and mostly talks about booze and baseball but I had to unfollow her because she insisted that these protests are being driven by white supremacists. I follow people of all political stripes. I generally don't curate my feed to eliminate shit I disagree with. But something like that is so stupid and so absurd I just can't respect someone who promotes it.


The white supremacist angle doesn't make sense to me either.

I just believe there have been bad actors who are white, who have both instigated and perpetuated the mob behavior. That doesn't absolve the actual mob. It does appear that there are those who want to sow dissention and pit American against American. Whether that is anarchists, Russians, etc I don't know.

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There's a young woman on White Sox Twitter who is interesting and mostly talks about booze and baseball but I had to unfollow her because she insisted that these protests are being driven by white supremacists. I follow people of all political stripes. I generally don't curate my feed to eliminate shit I disagree with. But something like that is so stupid and so absurd I just can't respect someone who promotes it.


The white supremacist angle doesn't make sense to me either.

I just believe there have been bad actors who are white, who have both instigated and perpetuated the mob behavior. That doesn't absolve the actual mob. It does appear that there are those who want to sow dissention and pit American against American. Whether that is anarchists, Russians, etc I don't know.


It is just politicians on the other side of the Trump coin. Say whatever it takes to minimize your side and the make the other side look bad.

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There's a young woman on White Sox Twitter who is interesting and mostly talks about booze and baseball but I had to unfollow her because she insisted that these protests are being driven by white supremacists. I follow people of all political stripes. I generally don't curate my feed to eliminate shit I disagree with. But something like that is so stupid and so absurd I just can't respect someone who promotes it.

When you see young black people actively looting all over every corner of social media and the news, and then they tell you that those kids are actually white surpemacists...I mean nobody is going to believe that shit except the REALLY hardcore zealots.


We can toss the idea that white supremacist groups are a real lurking threat in the country.

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There's a young woman on White Sox Twitter who is interesting and mostly talks about booze and baseball but I had to unfollow her because she insisted that these protests are being driven by white supremacists. I follow people of all political stripes. I generally don't curate my feed to eliminate shit I disagree with. But something like that is so stupid and so absurd I just can't respect someone who promotes it.


The white supremacist angle doesn't make sense to me either.

I just believe there have been bad actors who are white, who have both instigated and perpetuated the mob behavior. That doesn't absolve the actual mob. It does appear that there are those who want to sow dissention and pit American against American. Whether that is anarchists, Russians, etc I don't know.


The bad actors are the media who push the agenda that the country runs on racism and isn't worth saving.

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This is it, right there.

If you behave like this, you will get no quarter from me. None. No concessions whatsoever. No part of what you do entitles you to the even the least amount of respect.

I do not sympathize, and I will not sympathize with out-and-out criminals, and neither should anyone else.


You love Trump and Trump is a crook.

Trump is an egotist for sure, but he is no more a crook than anyone else in Washington, Red or Blue.


He looted his charity fund and he was proven to have done it. He also has scammed the hell out of many a small business owner and he defrauded the good people that paid for Trump University. None of that bothers you.

The argument (both sides do it) only ever seems to be made around here when a Republican is unabashedly guilty of something. Never otherwise.

Oh please. Insert the Name Clinton in that same sentence and it looks the same.

Give me a dose of your ability to be objective: Name 5 things that he has done that you applaud.


But the Clintons They were not proven to have done that. He was and you excuse him for it.

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Very True. A bastion of deranged DiCaros.

Yes, lets defend them because a drugged-up asshole who should really only represent drugged-up assholes (of all colors) acted like a fuckwad when he got pinched. A sane, non drug-addled person realizes when the tables are turned against them and acts accordingly (don't do anything stupid to put the cop(s) in fear for their lives, get a lawyer, and have your day in court) and does not exacerbate a bunch of armed policemen.

The more we defend people acting like this, the more it will be encouraged.


I wonder what the reaction would have been if Floyd had been arrested for sexual assault, or something more heinous than passing a counterfeit $20. That's what makes Chauvin's act so repulsive...it's hard to imagine how the guy could have that much apparent hatred/contempt/disregard for someone whose crime was relatively minor.

Chauvin obviously has his own issues (his actions, especially with cameras rolling right in his face, were markedly callous, probably borderline psychotic, and made the situation much worse than it had to be), but why is nobody asking what happened to get to the point where Floyd had to have 4 guys subduing him in the street? That simply - and I mean it when I say "simply", because it really is that simple - does not happen to the average black person (i.e. a person who is not fucked-up on drugs and who is lawfully conducting themselves).

Why is it lost that the average black person does not typically act like Floyd?

Instead, everybody who is defending him wants to act like their lives are similar to his.

Are they? Really?

I highly doubt it in the majority of cases. If people suffer stigmatizing treatment, it is because of bad eggs like this guy fucking it up for good people.

So, where are the voices of that law-abiding majority whose reputations are tarnished by the miscreants? Why are they not offended to the bone that their reputations will be tarnished by those who care not for one second about such things?


When it's all said and done the guy didn't deserve to die. Unless he was a threat to the cop he shouldn't have died.

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There's a young woman on White Sox Twitter who is interesting and mostly talks about booze and baseball but I had to unfollow her because she insisted that these protests are being driven by white supremacists. I follow people of all political stripes. I generally don't curate my feed to eliminate shit I disagree with. But something like that is so stupid and so absurd I just can't respect someone who promotes it.

When you see young black people actively looting all over every corner of social media and the news, and then they tell you that those kids are actually white surpemacists...I mean nobody is going to believe that shit except the REALLY hardcore zealots.


Yeah I watched enough coverage to see that there were all sorts of races involved in both the protests and looting. It is quite a trope to say it is outsiders when it is obvious that it is hyper local. It is happening in every major city. There is no need to go to the Twin Cities when you can get in on the action closer to home.

These politicians should stop making excuses and just condemn the violence and find a way to reduce it.

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 Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II
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Numerous, and we mean numerous, reports that Putzker was observed at Pier 290 in Williams Bay, Wisconsin dining while Chicago burned.

Rumor or fact? Don't expect the media to ask even the simplest of questions - it would be "disrespectful" and all that bullshit.

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Not over yet.
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When this is all over, which is not going to be for a while, Trump will be re-elected President.


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 Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II
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It's great when Antifa calls the cops:



Jesus, the social fabric is torn badly. If that Prius stops there, what happens? Do they smash its windows? That is one very angry man. And no mask to boot.

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 Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II
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Numerous, and we mean numerous, reports that Putzker was observed at Pier 290 in Williams Bay, Wisconsin dining while Chicago burned.

Rumor or fact? Don't expect the media to ask even the simplest of questions - it would be "disrespectful" and all that bullshit.


At least he know where to go to get served.

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