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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:27 am

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Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:27 am

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

B Mac wrote:

Nothing Juicy? This should be right up your alley.

Sorry, last night instead of brushing up on posse comitatus I was practicing coitus interruptus with your mom.

On a scale of 1-10, how juicy was she, juicy?

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Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:27 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Where is this coming from?

Your posting, your bootlicking, your defending every cop every chance you get, and your pseudo law degree.

The guy in the video wasn't in cuffs and was clearly using his arms to resist the effort of officers to get him cuffed.

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badrogue17

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:28 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Where is this coming from?

Your posting, your bootlicking, your defending every cop every chance you get, and your pseudo law degree.

Probably because most everyone is looking to blame police for everything no matter what the suspect is doing every single chance.

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Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:28 am

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denisdman wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

B Mac wrote:

Nothing Juicy? This should be right up your alley.

Sorry, last night instead of brushing up on posse comitatus I was practicing coitus interruptus with your mom.

On a scale of 1-10, how juicy was she, juicy?

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B Mac

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:30 am

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

B Mac wrote:

Nothing Juicy? This should be right up your alley.

Sorry, last night instead of brushing up on posse comitatus I was practicing coitus interruptus with your mom.

When you realize the law and Constitution is going to fuck up your MAGA. :lol:

Why don't you be an adult and educate the board on the topic? It's going to become very pertinent soon, and directly deals with Trump's speech last night.

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Nas

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:30 am

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Terry's Peeps wrote:

:lol:

Gotta post pictures showing she is part of the solution.

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Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:31 am

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B Mac wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

B Mac wrote:

Nothing Juicy? This should be right up your alley.

Sorry, last night instead of brushing up on posse comitatus I was practicing coitus interruptus with your mom.

When you realize the law and Constitution is going to fuck up your MAGA. :lol:

Why don't you be an adult and educate the board on the topic? It's going to become very pertinent soon, and directly deals with Trump's speech last night.

Why don't YOU do the reading for once? Educate yourself instead of relying on me.

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Nardi

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:32 am

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Does tasing work with layers of winter clothes on?

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tommy

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:33 am

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Nas wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

:lol:

Gotta post pictures showing she is part of the solution.

So people are actually influenced by these parasites?

Edit: Also, wouldst gladly. Same with the chick in front of the broken windas. Wouldst pay.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:34 am

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Rick I didn't ask whether someone should resist arrest, my question presupposed resisting arrest. How long does someone get to resist lawful arrest before extra force is acceptable in completing said arrest?

"Extra force" should only be used if there is a serious risk of harm to the officers or the public in general.

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B Mac

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:35 am

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

B Mac wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

B Mac wrote:

Nothing Juicy? This should be right up your alley.

Sorry, last night instead of brushing up on posse comitatus I was practicing coitus interruptus with your mom.

When you realize the law and Constitution is going to fuck up your MAGA. :lol:

Why don't you be an adult and educate the board on the topic? It's going to become very pertinent soon, and directly deals with Trump's speech last night.

Why don't YOU do the reading for once? Educate yourself instead of relying on me.

I know what it is and what it means. I don't play a lawyer on a message board. That's your fantasy.

I'm teeing one right up here for you to show your law knowledge. What's the problem?

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Peoria Matt

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:35 am

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Jaw Breaker wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Ok. You stick on the side of it being acceptable to repeatedly punch a suspect in the back who is on the ground. I'll take the other side.

I think officers are allowed to reasonably escalate the use of force to effectuate the arrest of a resisting suspect.

Once someone is cuffed behind their back, they are virtually zero threat to any officer (other than maybe spitting). If you are cuffed and still resist, expect a taser.

The guy in the video Rick and I are discussing wasn't cuffed, and was actively resisting arrest with his arms.

WRONG.

His left arm never moved the entirety of the video. Cuffs weren't placed on his right wrist at any point even though his right arm stopped moving after about 30 seconds. I watched it 3 times.

Why do you think that is?

Nas wrote:

What was in the video Matt shared?

Suspect laying face down in a yard. Person in recording screams that the guy had a spinal injury. Suspect flailed with his right arm for about 30 seconds. Cop never gets the cuffs out to put on the right arm which stopped moving. Left arm did not move because it was being kneeled on his partner who also punched the guy 4 or 5 times.

And now the video is gone.

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Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:37 am

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B Mac wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

B Mac wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

B Mac wrote:

Nothing Juicy? This should be right up your alley.

Sorry, last night instead of brushing up on posse comitatus I was practicing coitus interruptus with your mom.

When you realize the law and Constitution is going to fuck up your MAGA. :lol:

Why don't you be an adult and educate the board on the topic? It's going to become very pertinent soon, and directly deals with Trump's speech last night.

Why don't YOU do the reading for once? Educate yourself instead of relying on me.

I know what it is and what it means. I don't play a lawyer on a message board. That's your fantasy.

I'm teeing one right up here for you to show your law knowledge. What's the problem?

Careful, BMac, you're professing expertise on a legal concept. Sounds a lot like "playing lawyer" to me.

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Nas

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:38 am

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tommy wrote:

Nas wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

:lol:

Gotta post pictures showing she is part of the solution.

So people are actually influenced by these parasites?

Edit: Also, wouldst gladly. Same with the chick in front of the broken windas. Wouldst pay.

Yes

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Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:38 am

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Peoria Matt wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Jaw Breaker wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Ok. You stick on the side of it being acceptable to repeatedly punch a suspect in the back who is on the ground. I'll take the other side.

I think officers are allowed to reasonably escalate the use of force to effectuate the arrest of a resisting suspect.

Once someone is cuffed behind their back, they are virtually zero threat to any officer (other than maybe spitting). If you are cuffed and still resist, expect a taser.

The guy in the video Rick and I are discussing wasn't cuffed, and was actively resisting arrest with his arms.

Nas wrote:

What was in the video Matt shared?

So we agree that he wasn't cuffed and was resisting arrest? So much for being WRONG.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:43 am

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good dolphin wrote:

pittmike wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

I think we are all put in a better situation with police reform, even the police.

Yes. I still await an answer to my post of yesterday or the day before. I wonder if anyone knows what black cops think about all of this. Particularly, I would imagine internal strife about the thin blue line. Or do they become one of them for lack of a better term?

For all of those whose solution is V-O-T-E:

We have an african american county board president, mayor, state's attorney and police chief, and have (except for mayor) for at least half a decade. Baltimore not only had all of those but the offending officers were african american

It's depressing to think that even holding the seat of power and with political momentum, the solutions are still distant

That's because voting won't solve the problems we're currently facing. Dem governors and mayors have made it clear they are not on the side of the protesters.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:44 am

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Peoria Matt wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Peoria Matt wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Peoria Matt wrote:

Is nobody else willing to apply even the tiniest amount of skepticism to this?

Cop at the beginning tells him to put his hands back (or up, not sure) while his partner is kneeling on his other arm. Same thing happens at the end of the video while his partner continues to punch him.

WTF is there to be skeptical about?

Oh Jesus Christ. The guy is clearly resisting arrest, refusing to put either arm behind his back.

You're trolling, right?

Nope. He's just another garbage human being. The world would be better off if he was dead.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:45 am

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Peoria Matt wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

How long should a suspect be allowed to resist lawful arrest?

You didn't answer the question. Is the standard so low that we think it's alright for a police officer to repeatedly punch a suspect in the back who is laying on the ground?

How long does a suspect get to resist lawful arrest?

His left arm is being kneeled on THE ENTIRE VIDEO. He fights with his right arm for about 30 seconds then the cop is just holding it while the guy is being punched repeatedly in the back.

Doesn't matter. The guy was black so he's not a human being according to JLN.

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Bagels

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:45 am

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badrogue17 wrote:

Post from local PD last night said looters are now taking uhauls to the suburbs to transport more looters , start hitting the subdivisions , torching houses . That should make things interesting .

i've heard the "Uhauls being used to transport looters" a few times now...shouldn't that be able to be traced back as to who rented them unless they're all stolen ?? i'd be pulling over any uhaul i see going down the expressway at this point

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Peoria Matt

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:46 am

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Peoria Matt wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Jaw Breaker wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Ok. You stick on the side of it being acceptable to repeatedly punch a suspect in the back who is on the ground. I'll take the other side.

I think officers are allowed to reasonably escalate the use of force to effectuate the arrest of a resisting suspect.

Once someone is cuffed behind their back, they are virtually zero threat to any officer (other than maybe spitting). If you are cuffed and still resist, expect a taser.

The guy in the video Rick and I are discussing wasn't cuffed, and was actively resisting arrest with his arms.

Nas wrote:

What was in the video Matt shared?

So we agree that he wasn't cuffed and was resisting arrest? So much for being WRONG.

WRONG.

Cuffs weren't put on his left arm because the cop was kneeling on it the entire video. Which is why the left arm never moved. His partner could have placed cuffs on his right arm because the guy stopped moving his right arm but he was too busy watching his partner punch the guy in the shoulder.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:47 am

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badrogue17 wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Where is this coming from?

Your posting, your bootlicking, your defending every cop every chance you get, and your pseudo law degree.

Probably because most everyone is looking to blame police for everything no matter what the suspect is doing every single chance.

Nah it's because the cops can't even stop fucking people up during protests that they are fucking people up too much already.

Ogie is right about them.

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B Mac

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:48 am

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

B Mac wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

B Mac wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

B Mac wrote:

Nothing Juicy? This should be right up your alley.

Sorry, last night instead of brushing up on posse comitatus I was practicing coitus interruptus with your mom.

When you realize the law and Constitution is going to fuck up your MAGA. :lol:

Why don't you be an adult and educate the board on the topic? It's going to become very pertinent soon, and directly deals with Trump's speech last night.

Why don't YOU do the reading for once? Educate yourself instead of relying on me.

I know what it is and what it means. I don't play a lawyer on a message board. That's your fantasy.

I'm teeing one right up here for you to show your law knowledge. What's the problem?

Careful, BMac, you're professing expertise on a legal concept. Sounds a lot like "playing lawyer" to me.

I'm not saying I have expertise. I'm saying I know what it means. I'm asking you to educate us.

Why are you so scared?

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Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:51 am

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FavreFan wrote:

Peoria Matt wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

How long should a suspect be allowed to resist lawful arrest?

You didn't answer the question. Is the standard so low that we think it's alright for a police officer to repeatedly punch a suspect in the back who is laying on the ground?

How long does a suspect get to resist lawful arrest?

His left arm is being kneeled on THE ENTIRE VIDEO. He fights with his right arm for about 30 seconds then the cop is just holding it while the guy is being punched repeatedly in the back.

Doesn't matter. The guy was black so he's not a human being according to JLN.

So you're just making stuff up now?

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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:52 am

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Did I see the feed right? Someone stole a CPD Police horse and was riding it around? Yeah,Lightfoot and Pritzger got it under control.With the Oregon Govenor not even calling the NG out,Cuomo saying the riotors are doing good. I think they are trying to goad him into acting

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Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:53 am

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B Mac wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Careful, BMac, you're professing expertise on a legal concept. Sounds a lot like "playing lawyer" to me.

I'm not saying I have expertise. I'm saying I know what it means. I'm asking you to educate us.

Why are you so scared?

I already said I don't have expertise in it because I was banging your mom. What don't you get about that?

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:53 am

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

B Mac wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Careful, BMac, you're professing expertise on a legal concept. Sounds a lot like "playing lawyer" to me.

I'm not saying I have expertise. I'm saying I know what it means. I'm asking you to educate us.

Why are you so scared?

I already said I don't have expertise in it because I was banging your mom. What don't you get about that?

So you're just making stuff up now?

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Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:55 am

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The guy in the video in question did not appear to be black.

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B Mac

Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:55 am

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

B Mac wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Careful, BMac, you're professing expertise on a legal concept. Sounds a lot like "playing lawyer" to me.

I'm not saying I have expertise. I'm saying I know what it means. I'm asking you to educate us.

Why are you so scared?

I already said I don't have expertise in it because I was banging your mom. What don't you get about that?

My mom says that you spent the whole night lecturing her incorrectly about the law, and that when you whipped our your dick it was so small the laughter humiliated you and you ran out crying.

So back to you trying to deflect from teaching us about the law because it doesn't back up your MAGA....

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Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:55 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

B Mac wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Careful, BMac, you're professing expertise on a legal concept. Sounds a lot like "playing lawyer" to me.

I'm not saying I have expertise. I'm saying I know what it means. I'm asking you to educate us.

Why are you so scared?

I already said I don't have expertise in it because I was banging your mom. What don't you get about that?

So you're just making stuff up now?

Yep, you got me. I made up the part about banging his mom. Thought I had you guys there for a minute, but Frank sniffed out my ruse.

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