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It never mentioned White Privilege...it only talked about Privilege.


So you are denying that the national conversation isn't about white privilege? There was a special on NBC about this last night. It is on almost every newscast. And the news coverage literally calls it a video on white privilege:

https://sports.yahoo.com/as-a-video-abo ... 28763.html


No dipshit, I'm only talking about the video.

White Privilege is not the only Privilege we have going...but it certainly is predominant for this conversation.

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It never mentioned White Privilege...it only talked about Privilege.


So you are denying that the national conversation isn't about white privilege? There was a special on NBC about this last night. It is on almost every newscast. And the news coverage literally calls it a video on white privilege:

https://sports.yahoo.com/as-a-video-abo ... 28763.html


No dipshit, I'm only talking about the video.

White Privilege is not the only Privilege we have going...but it certainly is predominant for this conversation.


You contradicted yourself within your own post. It's just another video to add to the white privilege something that you believe as holy gospel anyway, so I don't know what the issue or argument is here.

Are you admitting that many black people are more privileged than we let on and they a have many privileges provided to them by living in American society?

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 Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II
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Why did you view that video's message as one entirely based on race? Why do you view these protests as an entirely racial issue?


The video is about privilege. And there has been national call for white families to have discussions about their privilege. Of course that's that the video is about and suggesting.


Yes. There were black kids who moved and white kids who didn't. Most of us are born with advantages we had nothing to do with. Understanding that may humble MANY of us.


They moved because it was poorly designed, as I stated from the very beginning.

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Why did you view that video's message as one entirely based on race? Why do you view these protests as an entirely racial issue?


Do I (as to the protests)?

I've said before that we all benefit from police reform. I've even laid out a few ideas for change that are race neutral.

We also all benefit from creating an environment where we maximize everyone's potential, or at least provide everyone an ability to maximize their potential.

As to the video? Well, come on. The questions are created in such a way that it is pointing in only one direction. Do you think you could come away from that exercise thinking about the male/female power structure or any number of other inequalities?


How long and disjointed an exercise are you asking for?

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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It never mentioned White Privilege...it only talked about Privilege.


So you are denying that the national conversation isn't about white privilege? There was a special on NBC about this last night. It is on almost every newscast. And the news coverage literally calls it a video on white privilege:

https://sports.yahoo.com/as-a-video-abo ... 28763.html


No dipshit, I'm only talking about the video.

White Privilege is not the only Privilege we have going...but it certainly is predominant for this conversation.


You contradicted yourself within your own post. It's just another video to add to the white privilege something that you believe as holy gospel anyway, so I don't know what the issue or argument is here.

Are you admitting that many black people are more privileged than we let on and they a have many privileges provided to them by living in American society?


Fuck off.

Youre such a scared, ignorant little pussy, you won't look in the mirror or even entertain the concept of White Privilege.

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Why did you view that video's message as one entirely based on race? Why do you view these protests as an entirely racial issue?


Do I (as to the protests)?

I've said before that we all benefit from police reform. I've even laid out a few ideas for change that are race neutral.

We also all benefit from creating an environment where we maximize everyone's potential, or at least provide everyone an ability to maximize their potential.

As to the video? Well, come on. The questions are created in such a way that it is pointing in only one direction. Do you think you could come away from that exercise thinking about the male/female power structure or any number of other inequalities?


No, I couldn't. That's just making perfect the enemy of good though. It was supposed to give you that cheesy after school special feeling.

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 Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II
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yeah, but this particular exercise is being held up as something worthy of my time when it is not. Golden Jet thought it was powerful and kids are being influenced by the content even though it is ridiculously flawed. The path to hell is paved in good intentions


But it really isn't all that flawed. It just makes people uncomfortable to even have the conversation at all.[/quote]

It took me one view and a few minutes to pick out four flaws. I'm not going to spend a day reviewing it but everyone is entitled to his own opinion

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Why did you view that video's message as one entirely based on race? Why do you view these protests as an entirely racial issue?


Do I (as to the protests)?

I've said before that we all benefit from police reform. I've even laid out a few ideas for change that are race neutral.

We also all benefit from creating an environment where we maximize everyone's potential, or at least provide everyone an ability to maximize their potential.

As to the video? Well, come on. The questions are created in such a way that it is pointing in only one direction. Do you think you could come away from that exercise thinking about the male/female power structure or any number of other inequalities?


No, I couldn't. That's just making perfect the enemy of good though. It was supposed to give you that cheesy after school special feeling.


Maybe I am making the assumption that was an exercise designed and conducted by a paid consultant. I just think there is danger in teaching children poorly, even if the intention is good.

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Trump just now: "Hopefully George is looking down right now and saying this is a great thing that's happening for our country. This is a great day for him. It's a great day for everybody."

:shock: :lol: :cry:


The guy is just nuts.


:lol: The media (and Kirkwood) trying to spin this as if Trump was talking about the jobs report. He wasn't. But people are gonna believe what they want to believe anyway.


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Trump just now: "Hopefully George is looking down right now and saying this is a great thing that's happening for our country. This is a great day for him. It's a great day for everybody."

:shock: :lol: :cry:


The guy is just nuts.


:lol: The media (and Kirkwood) trying to spin this as if Trump was talking about the jobs report. He wasn't. But people are gonna believe what they want to believe anyway.


Trump said it. I added nothing else. I'm not spinning anything. I placed this in the I Can't Breathe thread not the Dow Jones thread.

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Trump just now: "Hopefully George is looking down right now and saying this is a great thing that's happening for our country. This is a great day for him. It's a great day for everybody."

:shock: :lol: :cry:


The guy is just nuts.


:lol: The media (and Kirkwood) trying to spin this as if Trump was talking about the jobs report. He wasn't. But people are gonna believe what they want to believe anyway.


Trump said it. I added nothing else. I'm not spinning anything. I placed this in the I Can't Breathe thread not the Dow Jones thread.

Unlock your lips off Trump's pecker.



Here's what he said, you lying shithead:


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Trump just now: "Hopefully George is looking down right now and saying this is a great thing that's happening for our country. This is a great day for him. It's a great day for everybody."

:shock: :lol: :cry:


The guy is just nuts.


:lol: The media (and Kirkwood) trying to spin this as if Trump was talking about the jobs report. He wasn't. But people are gonna believe what they want to believe anyway.


Trump said it. I added nothing else. I'm not spinning anything. I placed this in the I Can't Breathe thread not the Dow Jones thread.

Unlock your lips off Trump's pecker.



Here's what he said, you lying shithead:



Kirk and Joe are about to have a go at it IMO


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 Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II
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Whatever. The story is all over with the clip edited to make it seem like he was saying George Floyd was looking down happy about a jobs report. That clearly isn't true. And there isn't anything very strange about what he actually said.


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Police leadership around the country obviously setting up WHITE officers with the goal of ELIMINATING THEM.

A devious plan.

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Whatever. The story is all over with the clip edited to make it seem like he was saying George Floyd was looking down happy about a jobs report. That clearly isn't true. And there isn't anything very strange about what he actually said.


Of course it's strange. Why would George Floyd say a great thing is happening for our country? What about today is a great day for him? It's rambling nonsense. Hence the shock and laughter.

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Can't have him rolling up on you. The rubber bullet almost brought him to his feet. That would have been an LAPD miracle.

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I think people who think police know the right techniques and don't need different methods in training just need to look at these videos. Yes, it is most definitely the worst scenario they will run into as cops but they should know how to handle it and be sufficiently disciplined to rely on that training

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All of this sucks. One half of the country thinks the police are undercover KKK agents while the other half thinks we're a perfect society. The truth isn't even in the middle...it's like in fucking outer space. Fuck all this shit everything sucks.

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I'm not much of a fan of the Rev. Al personally but I thought he gave an excellent eulogy yesterday. I can see why he still has a religious following. He wove so much together seamlessly. The only changes I would make would have been to put God at the beginning and not announced the attendees. Otherwise, perfection and really among the best "speeches" I have ever heard first hand.

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All of this sucks. One half of the country thinks the police are undercover KKK agents while the other half thinks we're a perfect society. The truth isn't even in the middle...it's like in fucking outer space. Fuck all this shit everything sucks.
And every side believes they are right, and everybody else is wrong.

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All of this sucks. One half of the country thinks the police are undercover KKK agents while the other half thinks we're a perfect society. The truth isn't even in the middle...it's like in fucking outer space. Fuck all this shit everything sucks.
And every side believes they are right, and everybody else is wrong.


I don't think this is true. I think there is near consensus on the underlying issue, even among the police.

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I'm not much of a fan of the Rev. Al personally but I thought he gave an excellent eulogy yesterday. I can see why he still has a religious following. He wove so much together seamlessly. The only changes I would make would have been to put God at the beginning and not announced the attendees. Otherwise, perfection and really among the best "speeches" I have ever heard first hand.


This is interesting. I loved the roach metaphor and thought it was a "good" eulogy, but I thought his delivery absolutely sucked. I was left wishing that another black pastor delivered the eulogy. I would have even taken Obama fumbling through scripture.

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