FavreFan wrote:
Antarctica wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Good for Minneapolis. Reminds me of when the NYPD went on unofficial strike and crime went down
they still responded to violent crime calls and those crimes remained basically constant. the state kept its monopoly on the use of force and there was no real indication that violent or serious property crime would go unpunished.
what did happen is that there were fewer tickets and fines issued and city revenues went down. saying there was less "crime" is disingenuous, as nobody really considers the revenue collection services performed by police but deigned by municipal government as actual crime-fighting.
There were less major crimes reported. That's a fact. Not talking about parking tickets.
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All of this is happening as New York has had one of its safest years in several decades. Crime dropped 4.6 percent from 2013 to 2014, and the city had the fewest murders since it started keeping track — in 1963. That broader trend is much more well-established than week-to-week fluctuations, so it's important not to put too much stock in the numbers for the last two weeks.
That said, it appears that crime over the two weeks of the shutdown is lower than it was in 2013-14 (with one exception: there were slightly more robberies the week of December 29 than there were the previous year). However, major crime rates rose from the week of Christmas to the week of New Year's — while they'd dropped from one week to the next last year.
It's possible that the rise in crime is due to broader awareness of the slowdown (though violent crime arrests aren't dropping as much as arrests for other crimes).
However, for many, the bottom line is that there hasn't been a drastic increase — that a 55 percent drop in arrests hasn't led to a 55 percent increase in crime.
Basically stayed the same. Some statistical noise, I guess but no indication that it had any real effect either way on major crime. This is probably because cops and criminal both knew that armed robberies, sexual assaults, murder, burglary, etc. was not going to go unpunished. Of course if you disband the MPD there will be nobody to actually enforce those laws and it goes to reason that without the deterrent rates of those crimes will skyrocket.