Oh please. They had no "line". They could have very easily spared one or two guys to stand near the old dude while people walked around him. The cop went out of his way to cross check the old guy with his nightstick.

Extremely uncalled for even if the victim were young.

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So this is the attitude right now and you're probably right. But something like George Floyd will happen again, maybe not in the next six months but it will happen. There are over a million police officers in America and there are well over a million criminals in America. They butt heads on a daily basis thousands and thousands of times. Now police morale is going to be so bottomed out that they aren't going to do much work, but even then there will be plenty of opportunities for shit to hit the fan.

And there are countless people with a bone to pick against police who are desperately waiting for an opportunity to assume the worst in any scenario they see. Eventually they'll find something that catches on, and then there will be another round of this. It'll repeat as often as it really needs to, but eventually it seems that the die has been cast. While support for police abolishment is somewhere probably in the ~10% range, its a figure that will certainly grow with time.

There's a massive security market opening up. Police and prison guards will be fine as their numbers reduce.

Villages and cities will be looking to outsource certain personnel. They'll streamline finances, reduce legal and pension liabilities.

They'll turn capital expenses into operating expenses.

We'll have more efficient and effective govt.

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Man that's a nice dream.

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We’ll see on the outsourcing being more efficient. That’s not how the federal government and military work.

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Nah, I think he's pretty spot on with this. Not short-term, but long-term that's probably the play. They'll just privatize policing the same way they've privatized prisons. It wont be all at once but slowly you'll notice rent-a-cops slowly turn from guys whose job is to just call the real cops into something a lot more. Fact is, there are a lot of people in the USA who have a lot of money. Those people hold tremendous power and influence in government. They are fine with there being no more police for poor people, they are not fine with there being no more police protection for themselves. In fact, a private police force that doesn't give its customers any gruff for things like DUI's and makes sure their customers' business is kept on the down low holds a tremendous amount of appeal for them.

But it wont happen overnight and we're still not there from a public opinion standpoint.

You think government will be efficient and effective?

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Well people will pay the same taxes and the government wont have to pay for a police force so, I guess so? Seems a bit odd, doesn't it? It surely feels like its not really efficient as a government "for and of the people" to take in the same money and do less, but well...that's America.

It's already happening. Bean counters are becoming village managers. They're looking to reduce liability and costs. Their also looking to trim non essential workers who carry pensions. I don't think they're going to get rid of the actual cops...but they will eliminate non essential folks...or jobs that don't really need a full LEO to perform...like LTG's Onsite Officer Friendly...or the person that sits by evidence storage.

This will not happen really fast unless some bigwig cops get on board...but it's coming. The Bean counters will win in the end.

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Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

The federal govt is currently consolidating and forcing departments at all levels to outsource their data center operations. They're turning inefficient capital expenditure heavy data centers into more efficient operating expenses.

It's bound to happen in many areas as AI figures out where corners can be cut and where they can't.

There are many excellent opportunities out there...if you can get in on the action.

You may have to work for or create a minority owned entity to take advantage.

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Cops share a delusional mindset with Hollywood liberals and Boston sports fans in that they keep insisting that they're losing while they're running up the score. They make good money with good benefits, they've never been safer or more secure in their work, and their budgets go up while everyone else's go down. So liberals get mad for a while when cops kill someone in broad daylight and then forget about it while the other half of the country unquestionably venerates them. Their morale should be great! What do they need that they still don't have? What more will it take to please the cops?

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He was lightly shoved out of the way. The guy also was like 6'8" tall. Who knows what he was carrying? He acted STUPIDLY and tripped over his own spastic feet and fell down. Poor dipshit.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

I would think the good cops would do everything possible to get rid of or hide bad cops.

They make great money, with great bennis.

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Wasn't that always sort of the idea behind council-manager government, that the actual running of a city would be entrusted to an unelected professional while the mayor and local-yokel aldermen were only there for show? Bean-counting was always the point of city managers.

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You are just an asshole...plain and simple.

"Who knows what he could be carrying!"

What a pussy you are.

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Well now they've got the technology and the need and the desire from the residents to start reducing liabilities... especially pensions. Especially, in Illinois.

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Yeah, being a cop is basically easy! When are you going to sign up for the academy to get a slice of that sweet, easy pie police officers got for themselves?

I came for the bricks and rocks being thrown at me but stayed for the urine and vomit !

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

And getting shot is a lot less likely to kill you now if you make it to a trauma center in time! You're almost TOO SAFE.

Also, the super wide angle lens on the camera people want strapped to you and recording at all times might not be able to see your dick when you pee!

Its one of the worst jobs in the world. Everyone they encounter is having one of the, if not the, worst days of their lives. Imagine cleaning up the mess after a toddler got raped to death and then when you're canvassing around to find out who did it everyone covers for the perpetrator because snitches get stitches. Oh and dont forget you've got to find the father at his job to tell him what happened, because its really not something that goes over well in a phone call.

They may face less direct threats to their life than they did twenty years ago, but they still get fucked up all the time from injuries and car crashes. It "safe" statistically, but in reality its kinda not, and even the stats that show its not that deadly are skewed by the all the badgeholders who are totally out of harm's way counting towards the total sample pool.

At the end of the day police have become societal garbagemen. And in a country with a population as rancid, amoral and downright nasty as America's that is an appalling proposition. I came close to doing it before I had the epiphany that I was not emotionally ready to see everyone in a society at their absolute worst all day, every day for twenty-something years.

Man, well put without resorting to hyperbole or the usual exaggeration a lot of us employ

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Is your argument that one must be in every profession they don’t consider unusually hard on a person? Not sure you’d like that standard applied every time in future arguments.

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If you want to get past for doing absolutely not as a cop it is possible. My brother in law has been doing it for 20 years and he's proud of it.

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GO BEARS!!!

You spend too much time online. Still, right now currently on June 5th 2020, police officer is one of the most revered professions in the country. You’re just whining about the half of the population that refuses to blow them while they’re getting shot in the face with rubber bullets by them.

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But crime has gone way down and their governments furnish them with Afghanistan/Iraq surplus (which, thank you, Iraq War enabler Joe Biden). I think it's way better to be a cop now than it was 30 years ago, even if it's still not an easy job. It can't be worse.

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Well its all surplus for a reason. Half the shit barely works, and really its all a scheme by General Dynamics to sell the DOD more shit they dont need because it also has "law enforcement utility" or whatever. I'm fine with this, the military industrial complex keeps me gainfully employed as long as the international system is half functional.

If you want to know why their benefits and pay have gone up commensurate with cost of living and inflation look no further than the fact that they collectively bargain. A right all employees have but many do not exercise.

My argument is that CH's characterization of how easy cops have it (don't waste time pretending that wasn't what he was arguing) was fucking absurd.

And now he's trying to slyly walk that back but can still only say "even if it isn't an easy job".

Yeah, it's the public-sector union that Republicans don't screw with.

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Weird that America venerates cops for dealing with trauma but doesn't extend that same courtesy to anyone else. Is it possible that cops are burritos that don't know how to properly manage stress? Perhaps cops should take more walks and get more hobbies.

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