Credit where credit is due. Great post.

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We Now Know That JOE BIDEN has been COMPROMISED by CHINA! (let that sink in)

Election 2020-The Largest Fraud in the History of Mankind.

*If you believe that Biden won, you also believe that Epstein killed himself*

The only shame about it is, if Jesus has to show up again and prove that it is proper to have faith, we are all dead.


Kind of a Catch-22.

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Well you can never have an entirely controlled or entirely free market. Look at the black and grey markets of the former USSR for a counter-example.

But I reckon that as we come out the other end of whatever tumult this decade sews we will come out in a system that continues to pluck the worst from both worlds.

MANY pretend as if we do have an economy that is purely Capitalist however. Therein lies the problem.

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MANY believe socialism means there is absolutely no more free enterprise.

Ignorance is abound. Worse yet it is purposefully indulged by people who would sooner lie to themselves than feel like they are losing or that they were wrong. This is a pathology that knows no political or racial distinction and it has become nearly universal among Americans.

some CPS middle school principal is running around the internet touting my idea of a high school academy directed at careers in police and fire. Which one of you is that guy?

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Difference being that we have never claimed to be a socialist society. We'd cut our right arm off before we ever admitted that we have socialist elements to our economy.

We incessantly preach capitalism yet we don't practice it nearly as much as we claim.

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Great, force people into a career at the age of twelve when its proven a majority of people dont even find their careers before the age of thirty.

Citizens can be accountable for their actions.

That's the needed paradigm shift.

I'm not going to wake up everyday and look to the government to do what I can control myself.

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They tell most kids in your beloved Europe whether they are college material or not by 12-14.

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Elections have consequences.

It's pretty easy to identify the ones that will be a failure by age 12 or 14. Might as well push them in to a shitty career at that time rather than wait until they've drowned themselves in debt after chasing a useless college degree.

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MANY also pretend the Democratic party actually gives 2 shits about the lower and middle class people. MANY also pretend that Republicans belive in Fiscally conservative policies. MANY Democrats and Republicans both pretend to be religious and have Judeo Christian values.

and just to be clear. LTG....I agree 100% with your statement. We have all sorts of socialist policies when it comes to our "free market" system.

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Mostly in Germany, but you are definitely not wrong.

SOUNDS like these JEANUSES should strat at COMMUNITY COLLAGE??????????????

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You think people are at all unified in their preaching of capitalism? Like, you get the impression that's an opinion that holds a deep majority still? Because I dont.

Either way there's a lot of different things you can mean by "socialist elements". The military and post office come from the founding of the country, which itself predates socialism by about a century. I just dont buy that anything collectivist also means socialist.

They don't do that like they once did. One of my business partners is British, of Saudi and Pakistani descent. When he was about 14, he was guided into the military and later some sort of special forces unit and shipped off to Afghanistan to fight the opium trade. He's got some crazy stories.

Today, they don't push kids into different tracks like back then.

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What do you guys think the odds of this being true are? Even partially true?

If he finds a Tweet about it from a blue checkmark, he'll believe it to be true.

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We have aocialized farming since the 1940's. That's Socialist but you rarely hear about and I'm sure if pressed your average Farmer would claim that he is just one of the many cogs of the Free Market System. We Socialize Real Estate through Section 8 and other programs which allow developers and landlords to increase their profits while contributing far less than they ordinarily would. We Socialize the energy industry also. Stock Market is socialized too yet do the people that benefit from it ever admit this? Nope.


There are all types of blatantly Socialist elements that are to be found in our supposedly Capitalist society. If you were to talk to MANY of our nation's capitalist you'd likely hear that it was all due to their entrepreneurial spirit and acumen however. It's in many ways a sham.

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Guess you'll never know for certain.

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Inebriated Rodent is, without a doubt, a welfare king. (Not setting myself up for the "What kind of queen are you?" line. #selfdefense)

Even with the subsidy a farmers crop is subject to the market. Its not a command economy, the American government may influence the price of commodities but it surely doesn't dictate them. That doesn't make it a purely free market, but it certainly doesn't make it in any way socialist.

You seem to be existing in the same strict dichotomy that earlier you derided.

I'm actually not and you're attempting to provide a distinction without providing much of a difference. The Farming industry collapses without Government subsidies. This was known in the 40's and it still prevails today.

No Offense Squirrel but it's the truth. They have been propped up by Govt. That's socialism .

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There are very limited examples of socialism that exist beyond the confines of the old Soviet bloc.

Medicine would be the largest example, by far. And the USA hasn't rejected socialized healthcare on the grounds of ideology but instead hard actuarial science. The average American takes such appallingly poor care of themselves that its impossible for the government to afford caring for all of them. Its not really a repudiation of socialized medicine (nor is it an endorsement). The circumstances of Americans and their abysmal health has mandated a system where some amount of people get left behind. Its a necessity. Would it be more just for the government to let obese people fend for themselves and take care of healthy people in a socialized system? Yes, of course. But that's not morally acceptable so we let the insurance companies decide.

Again, that's not an ideological aversion to the only broadly implemented socialist program around the world. Its a practical reality.

You might want to identify as a king Tommy but that doesn’t make you any less of a Queen.

Not really. Its not like people would no longer eat food. Agriculture has existed for the better part of the last twenty thousand years, trust me when I say it doesn't need the American government and the subsidies it provides.

You're merely speculating again. It's been widely known that Millions of Farmers would have gone bankrupt years ago without subsidies.

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This is false. China was much more than a "limited example of Socialism existing beyond the confines of the Soviet Union".

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No force.

We have several military academy CPS high schools. None are the neighborhood school. Kids and their families choose to attend and they have a pretty good record. North's old school Senn is partially known as Rickover Academy. Now do the same thing but with a police and fire academy. We have high schools that are trade schools.

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