Antarctica wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Antarctica wrote:
long time guy wrote:
I'm actually not and you're attempting to provide a distinction without providing much of a difference. The Farming industry collapses without Government subsidies. This was known in the 40's and it still prevails today.
No Offense Squirrel but it's the truth. They have been propped up by Govt. That's socialism .
Not really. Its not like people would no longer eat food. Agriculture has existed for the better part of the last twenty thousand years, trust me when I say it doesn't need the American government and the subsidies it provides.
You're merely speculating again. It's been widely known that Millions of Farmers would have gone bankrupt years ago without subsidies.
I'm really not speculating. Human beings will continue to need to eat and there will be farmers to meet that demand no matter what subsidies exist. That's not really up for debate or speculation unless as a species we transcend the mortal plane of existence.
It's not about whether people need to eat or not. If course they need to eat. That doesn't mean that MANY farmers wouldn't have gone bankrupt. We can and do import food. Actually one of the reasons that we subsidize the Farming industry in the first place is so that we can protect it against foreign markets.
I will simply provide something from a random year and leave it at this.
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For somebody who works the hard northern land that was first cut by homesteaders' plows less than a century ago, the big harvest of government checks usually happens in the fall -- $40,000 for just being a farmer, another $40,000 for emergencies like bad market conditions, more than $100,000 for not making any money on what is grown, and $50,000 for taking other land out of production.
Good crops or bad, high yields or low -- it hardly matters, the checks roll in from the federal government, the biggest payroll in farm country. By the end of the year, some farmers can receive up to $280,000 simply by having another miserable year of failure.
Perhaps never in the history of a nation founded by agrarian self-starters has the federal government propped up rural America to such a degree. This year, the government distributed a record $28 billion in direct payments, accounting for half of all the money made by farmers. In eight states, including Montana, government assistance made up 100 percent of overall farm income.
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