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A lot of people streamed draft coverage on YouTube or elsewhere when they got sick of the ABC/ESPN tragedy porn.


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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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People are thirsting for the NBA right now.
So thirsty that the most watched documentary in the history of ESPN still can't even garner ratings higher than an NFL webcast.

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The premiere of "The Last Dance," the network's highly anticipated docuseries about Jordan and the Chicago Bulls NBA dynasty, averaged 6.1 million viewers on Sunday night, the network said in a statement Monday.

That makes "The Last Dance" the most-viewed ESPN documentary ever.

The debut of the 10-part series was a hit with 18 to 49-year-olds, grabbing 3.5 million in the advertiser-beloved demo.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/20/media/th ... index.html



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Hey Fraternization this quote of yours will heretofore be known as simply The Validation :lol: :lol:
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What in the sports world is there to be interested in right now? What is going on right now that would generate enough talking points for roughly 20 hours of airtime each week?

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Why don't we just lock this thread. It's not really fair anymore.

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Why don't we just lock this thread. It's not really fair anymore.

Yup. NBA is king.

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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2020 5:35 pm 
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http://amp.awfulannouncing.com/espn/the ... and-8.html

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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People are thirsting for the NBA right now.
So thirsty that the most watched documentary in the history of ESPN still can't even garner ratings higher than an NFL webcast.

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The premiere of "The Last Dance," the network's highly anticipated docuseries about Jordan and the Chicago Bulls NBA dynasty, averaged 6.1 million viewers on Sunday night, the network said in a statement Monday.

That makes "The Last Dance" the most-viewed ESPN documentary ever.

The debut of the 10-part series was a hit with 18 to 49-year-olds, grabbing 3.5 million in the advertiser-beloved demo.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/20/media/th ... index.html

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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:22 pm 
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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People are thirsting for the NBA right now.
So thirsty that the most watched documentary in the history of ESPN still can't even garner ratings higher than an NFL webcast.

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The premiere of "The Last Dance," the network's highly anticipated docuseries about Jordan and the Chicago Bulls NBA dynasty, averaged 6.1 million viewers on Sunday night, the network said in a statement Monday.

That makes "The Last Dance" the most-viewed ESPN documentary ever.

The debut of the 10-part series was a hit with 18 to 49-year-olds, grabbing 3.5 million in the advertiser-beloved demo.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/20/media/th ... index.html


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You will find very little about off season football that is interesting enough to be discussed over a six month stretch of time. Absolutely nothing and OTA talks are the fucking worse and yoo hoo its about time to saddle up for that as well.


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99% of the time, NFL talk > NBA talk. Like it or not, that is the truth.


2020 NFL Draft began on
Thursday, April 23
and ended on
Saturday, April 25

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I don't know what the hell your point is, LTG, unless you have seen the error of your ways and you now will agree with the facts.

Last night, you posted a link that showed the number of views for The Last Dance has actually dropped since the first episodes. Using the info I posted a month ago, or using the link you posted yesterday, there were more people that watched an NFL Zoom conference call than there was that watched The Last Dance.

You are wrong on this issue. You always have been, and evidently you always will be. And it SHALL REMAIN THAT WAY.

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I don't know what the hell your point is, LTG, unless you have seen the error of your ways and you now will agree with the facts.

Last night, you posted a link that showed the number of views for The Last Dance has actually dropped since the first episodes. Using the info I posted a month ago, or using the link you posted yesterday, there were more people that watched an NFL Zoom conference call than there was that watched The Last Dance.

You are wrong on this issue. You always have been, and evidently you always will be. And it SHALL REMAIN THAT WAY.


It's ok to call notate that the "Zoom Conference Call" was actually the NFL draft Fraternization. You aren't calling it that because you need to mislead
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NFL Draft 2020: Fans make fun of the Zoom-like interface, say this is 'the future of live events'


Fact of the matter is that once the NFL Draft over you're cooked and always have been

Thanks for proving that "Off Season NFL" is nothing more than a three day excursion which drew numbers eerily similar to those of a documentary based on a team last season over 20 years ago. That is until they started airing it on 4 DIFFERENT NETWORKS.

Fact of the matter is that your wad is shot once the draft is over. The NFL offseason is a 6 month process and yet all you ever have to talk about is a draft that lasts for a mere 3 days.

Get at it me when you have something more substantial.
My point was always about the NFL offseason.

You are so screwed you have had to evade the actual point in order to be right.

What do you have once the draft (Which only does about a third of what a Finals does ratings wise) is over?

The answer is nothing

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"The NBA FINALS have higher ratings than the draft" does not help your argument. In fact, it helps me :lol:

So thanks!

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"The NBA FINALS have higher ratings than the draft" does not help your argument. In fact, it helps me :lol:

So thanks!


Conference Finals does too. What do you have to suggest people care about the NFL Offseason besides the draft?

If you can't answer it effectively stick a fork in ya as you are done.

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And actually Fraternization the ratings for the Last Dance are illustrating my point rather perfectly. The ratings for the series are about 5.5 million viewers over a 4 week period. Other than the draft what the NFL have which compares to it?

You're cooked on this.

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There are NFL regular season games that have more than 5-6 million viewers.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
There are NFL regular season games that have more than 5-6 million viewers.

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In terms of Chicago sports radio, the NFL has no offseason.


You're done! Finished!


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There isn't more interest in Off Season out of town Football than there is in the NBA right now. No way. No How.

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And actually Fraternization the ratings for the Last Dance are illustrating my point rather perfectly. The ratings for the series are about 5.5 million viewers over a 4 week period. Other than the draft what the NFL have which compares to it?

You're cooked on this.


Every single NFL prime time game.

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/nfl-tv ... -playoffs/

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And actually Fraternization the ratings for the Last Dance are illustrating my point rather perfectly. The ratings for the series are about 5.5 million viewers over a 4 week period. Other than the draft what the NFL have which compares to it?

You're cooked on this.


Every single NFL prime time game.

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/nfl-tv ... -playoffs/


This has never been the point. Nothing related to regular season NFL relates to the point.

Here is the original point. Fraternization Frank already has his track shoes on.

viewtopic.php?f=128&t=111647&hilit=Off+Season+Football+Odell

You're done!

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:lol: :lol: Thanks Conns

Let me amend to "there are MANY regular season NFL games" that have 5+ million viewers.

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And actually Fraternization the ratings for the Last Dance are illustrating my point rather perfectly. The ratings for the series are about 5.5 million viewers over a 4 week period. Other than the draft what the NFL have which compares to it?

You're cooked on this.


Every single NFL prime time game.

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/nfl-tv ... -playoffs/


Don't let Fraternization Frank send you off. Here is the point Conns.

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In season NBA finally has a story that trumps out of season NFL, and it takes the NBA shutting down their entire league to move the meters :lol: :lol: :lol:


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No, he's not done making you look like a fool. You're the one who bumped this thread yesterday that shows The Last Dance viewership actually declining slightly, so you can take a very restless nap in this bed you've made yourself :lol:

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No, he's not done making you look like a fool. You're the one who bumped this thread yesterday that shows The Last Dance viewership actually declining slightly, so you can take a very restless nap in this bed you've made yourself :lol:


Where is the Off Season NFL counter to it from this week Fraternization? Or Last Week?

Fraternization answer: this week. NFL Draft

Next Week's answer: NFL Draft

June's answer: NFL draft.

You've milked the draft for all it's worth.

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Tossing and turning. Tossing and turning.

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This just keeps getting more and more bizarre.

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/18/media/es ... index.html
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New York (CNN Business)"The Last Dance" was the Michael Jordan of documentaries for ESPN -- at least in terms of ratings.

The network's docuseries about Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls finished its 10-episode run as the most-watched documentary ever on ESPN, the network said on Monday.
The series, which debuted to big numbers in April, averaged 5.6 million viewers throughout its run.

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nearly a month ago, Frank Coztansa wrote:
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People are thirsting for the NBA right now.
So thirsty that the most watched documentary in the history of ESPN still can't even garner ratings higher than an NFL webcast.

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The premiere of "The Last Dance," the network's highly anticipated docuseries about Jordan and the Chicago Bulls NBA dynasty, averaged 6.1 million viewers on Sunday night, the network said in a statement Monday.

That makes "The Last Dance" the most-viewed ESPN documentary ever.

The debut of the 10-part series was a hit with 18 to 49-year-olds, grabbing 3.5 million in the advertiser-beloved demo.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/20/media/th ... index.html

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It might be time to administer last rites to old Fraternization Frank.
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NBA playoffs barely eek out higher ratings than a golf tournament without Tiger Woods.
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Across 76 telecasts on ABC, ESPN, TNT and NBA TV, this year's playoffs are averaging 3.95 million viewers, compared to 4.61 million viewers over 78 games through the same point last year.
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Laughing and lying!

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ABC’s telecast of game 1 between the Phoenix Suns and Milwaukee Bucks averaged 8.56 million viewers in final same-day ratings from Nielsen, adjusting up from 7.68 million in earlier figures. The finals include out of home viewing and other adjustments that account for about 880,000 additional viewers. The game scored a 2.86 rating in the key ad demographic of adults 18-49, even with last year’s game 1.

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Tuesday’s game — which comes about a month after the league’s usual early June berth for the Finals — is off by 37 percent compared to game 1 of the 2019 series between the Golden State Warriors and Toronto Raptors (13.51 million viewers).


Meanwhile in the NFL:

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Coverage of the draft’s three days across ABC, ESPN, NFL Network, ESPN Deportes, and digital channels scored an average 8.4 million viewers, comfortably beating the previous high, put up by last year’s draft, of 6.2 million by 35%. For further comparison, that represents a 53% increase over the 2018 draft, which also used to be the most-watched draft on average.

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Round 1 on Thursday, which kicked off with the unsurprising news that LSU quarterback Joe Burrow had been selected as the number one overall pick by the Cincinnati Bengals, scored an average audience of 16.5 million viewers, up 37% from a year ago. Around 8.2 million viewers watched rounds 2 and 3 on Friday, per the NFL, while 4.2 million viewers stuck around for round 4 through 7 on Saturday. That’s up 40% and 32% from the year before.


The NBAs final championship round can't beat NFL second day draft coverage.


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wonder what olympic sports the NBA will lose to

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The UEFA Euro Final between England and Italy smashed the NBA Finals.

Finals ratings are down over thirty percent from 2019, which is incredible because in 2019 one of the home markets (Toronto) doesn't even get counted in the ratings. Nobody is really watching this anymore.

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