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Ok seriously, wtf. If it wasn't for U.S. Grant we would not have won the civil war and ended slavery.

I mean this is some real ignorant shit.

Was it just stupid people gathering and found a 'CIVIL WAR GENERAL's statue to bring down because you know, it's a civil war general? they probably have no clue what the civil war was even about.

I'm not against getting rid of confederate statues - which is fine - they lost. But tearing down the statue of the general that won the civil war so is so ignorant coming from a city that pats itself on the back as being so smart and educated.


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at least the police have finally got smart... just stand there and watch shit burn. arrest people the next day through camera footage. its the least invasive way to calm all of this down. whats hilarious is a lot of these people are getting away with it because its socially demanded they wear masks :lol:

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at least the police have finally got smart... just stand there and watch shit burn. arrest people the next day through camera footage. its the least invasive way to calm all of this down. whats hilarious is a lot of these people are getting away with it because its socially demanded they wear masks :lol:


And hey, sometimes you get lucky and the statue falls on one of them.

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Grant sorta owned slaves. Grant married into a slave-owning Missouri family; which his own family disapproved of. Grant's dad wouldn't help out struggling Ulysses financially as long as he was consorting with those no-good slave-owners down in god-forsaken Missouri.


Grant tried to make amends for his slave owning ways by freeing the only slave he ever personally owned and kicking all the jews out of Kentucky and Tennessee. Despite those good works, Grant still holds the belt as our last official slave-holding President. And to this day you still can't find a decent criminal defense attorney between Ohio and Georgia.


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Grant still holds the belt as our last official slave-holding President.

I'm curious -- what department of the government issues that paperwork?

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He’s down the list on statues to topple, but he’s got a lot of Native American blood on his hands (as almost all early presidents do).


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He was broke when he sold that slave. He was offered what in today’s money would be 60k but turned it down while broke.

He came from a family of abolishinists.

I guess the post above about quick facts is the education people receive these days. If I had no clue about Grant and read this I Too would be dumb enough to think he was an evil slave owner.

Just ignorant.


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Just ignorant.

More than that, it isn't answering the question that was asked of him. Willfully ignorant and misleading.

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He’s down the list on statues to topple, but he’s got a lot of Native American blood on his hands (as almost all early presidents do).



He’s no Andrew Jackson in that regard but yeah, not good.


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He’s down the list on statues to topple, but he’s got a lot of Native American blood on his hands (as almost all early presidents do).

:lol: :lol: :lol:

What a destructive ideology. You need to qualify that shit heavily.


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Grant sorta owned slaves. Grant married into a slave-owning Missouri family; which his own family disapproved of. Grant's dad wouldn't help out struggling Ulysses financially as long as he was consorting with those no-good slave-owners down in god-forsaken Missouri.


Grant tried to make amends for his slave owning ways by freeing the only slave he ever personally owned and kicking all the jews out of Kentucky and Tennessee. Despite those good works, Grant still holds the belt as our last official slave-holding President. And to this day you still can't find a decent criminal defense attorney between Ohio and Georgia.

You left a lot out.


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Grant sorta owned slaves. Grant married into a slave-owning Missouri family; which his own family disapproved of. Grant's dad wouldn't help out struggling Ulysses financially as long as he was consorting with those no-good slave-owners down in god-forsaken Missouri.


Grant tried to make amends for his slave owning ways by freeing the only slave he ever personally owned and kicking all the jews out of Kentucky and Tennessee. Despite those good works, Grant still holds the belt as our last official slave-holding President. And to this day you still can't find a decent criminal defense attorney between Ohio and Georgia.

You left a lot out.

The man was born to conduct war. Everything else was a shitshow. Not a deep man. He shut down the Mississippi and took care of Lee and that's ALL that matters. GOAT general. By far.


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at least the police have finally got smart... just stand there and watch shit burn. arrest people the next day through camera footage. its the least invasive way to calm all of this down. whats hilarious is a lot of these people are getting away with it because its socially demanded they wear masks :lol:

The masks aren't really a barrier. They can track your whereabouts to the exact spot on which you stand just using your phone and the inevitable footage taken by people around you. All the social media sites these people are on give information freely to the FBI, CIA and NSA. No questions asked.

And even then, facial recognition is good enough to work even if it only sees above the cheek bones.


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IkeSouth wrote:
at least the police have finally got smart... just stand there and watch shit burn. arrest people the next day through camera footage. its the least invasive way to calm all of this down. whats hilarious is a lot of these people are getting away with it because its socially demanded they wear masks :lol:

The masks aren't really a barrier. They can track your whereabouts to the exact spot on which you stand just using your phone and the inevitable footage taken by people around you. All the social media sites these people are on give information freely to the FBI, CIA and NSA. No questions asked.

And even then, facial recognition is good enough to work even if it only sees above the cheek bones.

Ogie better hope Management doesn't do that.

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https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/s ... k/2312839/

Ok seriously, wtf. If it wasn't for U.S. Grant we would not have won the civil war and ended slavery.

I mean this is some real ignorant shit.

Was it just stupid people gathering and found a 'CIVIL WAR GENERAL's statue to bring down because you know, it's a civil war general? they probably have no clue what the civil war was even about.

I'm not against getting rid of confederate statues - which is fine - they lost. But tearing down the statue of the general that won the civil war so is so ignorant coming from a city that pats itself on the back as being so smart and educated.


Blame textbooks and teachers.

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HawaiiYou wrote:



https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/s ... k/2312839/

Ok seriously, wtf. If it wasn't for U.S. Grant we would not have won the civil war and ended slavery.

I mean this is some real ignorant shit.

Was it just stupid people gathering and found a 'CIVIL WAR GENERAL's statue to bring down because you know, it's a civil war general? they probably have no clue what the civil war was even about.

I'm not against getting rid of confederate statues - which is fine - they lost. But tearing down the statue of the general that won the civil war so is so ignorant coming from a city that pats itself on the back as being so smart and educated.


Blame textbooks and teachers.

I do have to wonder if you polled that crowd what percentage actually know who he was. 50%? He certainly was a man with faults, but still.

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IkeSouth wrote:
at least the police have finally got smart... just stand there and watch shit burn. arrest people the next day through camera footage. its the least invasive way to calm all of this down. whats hilarious is a lot of these people are getting away with it because its socially demanded they wear masks :lol:

The masks aren't really a barrier. They can track your whereabouts to the exact spot on which you stand just using your phone and the inevitable footage taken by people around you. All the social media sites these people are on give information freely to the FBI, CIA and NSA. No questions asked.

And even then, facial recognition is good enough to work even if it only sees above the cheek bones.


The technology is years or more than a decade from being reliable.

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HawaiiYou wrote:



https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/s ... k/2312839/

Ok seriously, wtf. If it wasn't for U.S. Grant we would not have won the civil war and ended slavery.

I mean this is some real ignorant shit.

Was it just stupid people gathering and found a 'CIVIL WAR GENERAL's statue to bring down because you know, it's a civil war general? they probably have no clue what the civil war was even about.

I'm not against getting rid of confederate statues - which is fine - they lost. But tearing down the statue of the general that won the civil war so is so ignorant coming from a city that pats itself on the back as being so smart and educated.


Blame textbooks and teachers.

I do have to wonder if you polled that crowd what percentage actually know who he was. 50%? He certainly was a man with faults, but still.


18%

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Franky T wrote:
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HawaiiYou wrote:



https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/s ... k/2312839/

Ok seriously, wtf. If it wasn't for U.S. Grant we would not have won the civil war and ended slavery.

I mean this is some real ignorant shit.

Was it just stupid people gathering and found a 'CIVIL WAR GENERAL's statue to bring down because you know, it's a civil war general? they probably have no clue what the civil war was even about.

I'm not against getting rid of confederate statues - which is fine - they lost. But tearing down the statue of the general that won the civil war so is so ignorant coming from a city that pats itself on the back as being so smart and educated.


Blame textbooks and teachers.

I do have to wonder if you polled that crowd what percentage actually know who he was. 50%? He certainly was a man with faults, but still.



50%? ha. not even close.

Pretty sure this is how it happened :

Someone googled 'civil war general statues in san francisco'
Grant statue came up
Organized bunch to bring it down without even knowing what side he was on or what the civil war even was.

Here is part of the aftermath -

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why arent we blowing up the fucking pyramids, built by slaves for rulers.


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The hoodlums in Tinley Park tore down my backyard bust of HawaiiYou also. Hooligans. :evil:


Your property value just went up 10%. Your welcome!

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The hoodlums in Tinley Park tore down my backyard bust of HawaiiYou also. Hooligans. :evil:


Your property value just went up 10%. Your welcome!

I'm just waiting for them to destroy my FrankDrebin bust -- then I'll be up 30%!

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at least the police have finally got smart... just stand there and watch shit burn. arrest people the next day through camera footage. its the least invasive way to calm all of this down. whats hilarious is a lot of these people are getting away with it because its socially demanded they wear masks :lol:

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FrankDrebin wrote:
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The hoodlums in Tinley Park tore down my backyard bust of HawaiiYou also. Hooligans. :evil:


Your property value just went up 10%. Your welcome!

I'm just waiting for them to destroy my FrankDrebin bust -- then I'll be up 30%!


You'll always have one in your backyard.

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IkeSouth wrote:
at least the police have finally got smart... just stand there and watch shit burn. arrest people the next day through camera footage. its the least invasive way to calm all of this down. whats hilarious is a lot of these people are getting away with it because its socially demanded they wear masks :lol:

The masks aren't really a barrier. They can track your whereabouts to the exact spot on which you stand just using your phone and the inevitable footage taken by people around you. All the social media sites these people are on give information freely to the FBI, CIA and NSA. No questions asked.

And even then, facial recognition is good enough to work even if it only sees above the cheek bones.


The technology is years or more than a decade from being reliable.

Its year or more than a decade away from being admissible. That's why you dont even know about it, and I dont even think they want to make it admissible in court because they want it kept under wraps.


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at least the police have finally got smart... just stand there and watch shit burn. arrest people the next day through camera footage. its the least invasive way to calm all of this down. whats hilarious is a lot of these people are getting away with it because its socially demanded they wear masks :lol:

The masks aren't really a barrier. They can track your whereabouts to the exact spot on which you stand just using your phone and the inevitable footage taken by people around you. All the social media sites these people are on give information freely to the FBI, CIA and NSA. No questions asked.

And even then, facial recognition is good enough to work even if it only sees above the cheek bones.


The technology is years or more than a decade from being reliable.

Its year or more than a decade away from being admissible. That's why you dont even know about it, and I dont even think they want to make it admissible in court because they want it kept under wraps.


I heard/read blacks are one of the glitches.

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