That reasoning traps you in a 2 party shitshow for eternity.

It's fine if Nas believes that but then I definitely don't want to hear a word from him complaining about Trump. I won't take it seriously. He WANTS people to vote for Trump.

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TBF to Nas though, I gotta admit it's pretty hilarious hearing a Joe Biden voter talk down to someone else about wasting their vote

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Back when we had multiple parties the shitshow was even worse.

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Trump and Biden are 2 sides of the same coin. Nothing more and nothing less.

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Amen brother. The Diet Trump nickname is one of the more fitting nicknames I've heard on this board, ever.

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Agreed.. Both are terrible candidates from terrible parties. I've been waiting for a labor party my whole life. A party that represents 90% of Americans.

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Don't get so defensive. Despite your tantrum, in November you are going to vote for a candidate that you probably never heard of and know absolutely nothing about. All you know is that they are the Libertarian nominee. They may have never held a political office. That's not exactly voting your conscience. That's supporting a party.

Voting is far more complicated than supporting the person that you believe in. There aren't any trophies being passed out for supporting a candidate that can't win. Most voters supported Biden because they believed that he could win. That's a calculation that you have to make sometimes. There could also be 1 issue that matters to you and you are willing to hold your nose on everything else. Removing Trump from office is the only thing that matters to me. I'm willing to reevaluate everything else in 4 years

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It doesn't if the candidate gets enough votes. In a contested election there is nothing noble about supporting a candidate who cannot win

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It only makes sense to someone who pretty much ignores politics or wanted Bernie to win

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I'm not getting defensive. I just have zero respect for your political philosophy that third party votes are wasted votes. I consider it a pretty reprehensible philosophy, and it gave us Trump. So, congrats on that I guess.

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It makes sense to anyone who is even mildly conscious of both candidates past.

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You are literally going to vote for a candidate you know absolutely nothing about just to say you were different.

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Again, anyone mildly paying attention to their personal or political history would know that they aren't close to being the same person. It's lazy groupthink and wrong.

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I am going to vote for Jo Jorgenson because I agree with her positions more than Biden or Trump, and it helps that she doesn't have dementia and she's not a child molestor like those two are. Good luck with your vote though. I'm sure it will feel great voting for Uncle Joe as he loses to Trump.

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It's accurate but I understand you have to twist yourself in knots in order to justify voting for a molester with dementia.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

FavreFan DiCaro.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Now find me a link where I endorse Biden and the WYC you think you have here will be complete.

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Pretty sure DiCaro will be a Biden voter.

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They are a lot closer than you might care to think. Even down to the "delusions of grandeur" thing that both have going on.

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This is why LTG is still my guy

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I guess you have to twist yourself into knots to smear a candidate. You Googled a candidate who you know absolutely nothing about except she's a libertarian and that's good enough for you. So much for voting your conscience.

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Sounds like you're describing both candidates. How else are they similar?

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I may not be after you hear one of my diatribes regarding the utter uselessness of the Libertarianism movement.

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Nah I'm fine with that. Most people think Libertarians are some combination of useless or crazy. Got no issues with that as long as you're holding your party's nominee to similar scrutiny and sounds like you do.

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I try but I will be the first to admit that I was in the tank for Hillary. I believed she was the best candidate in both 08 and 16, but I also accepted and understood that she was flawed too.

With Biden I too was a fan in the early to mid 90's. This even though I knew of his plagiarist past. Back then he was the darling of the talk show circuit. Never met a camera that he wouldn't floss for. Literally. The more that I paid attention the more that I realized that there really wasn't much there there.

Til now he was washout as a Presidential candidate. His status and profile was upped by his affiliation to Obama. Particularly so with black voters but to me he is the same fraud that I remember from back then.

He is preferable to Trump but so is a cankersore.

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I know you aren't a Biden guy, but Hillary is far closer to Trump than Biden is

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No one else here who generally votes Democrat has criticized them more than me. This election is about removing a dangerous and hate-filled man. That instantly makes the country better.

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If that's all this election is about then I think it's a poor strategy on your part to encourage people to vote for Trump if they would instead prefer to vote third party.

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