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"Look at the police protecting someone from being assaulted for their political views!"

What do they want the cop to do?


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Shouldn't worship any profession. And there's not a goddam thing wrong with being skeptical about your kids' teacher. They get no automatic respect because they have a degree in education. There's been times I've asked a teacher at a conference how she teaches a certain concept and I get back a bunch of stuttering. These are the teachers that send a bunch of homework home. These are the teachers that piss and moan about parents not being involved. I already have a job and I don't want a second one teaching. I'm the homework checker, not the homework teacher. I mean, I'll do it, but don't expect me to sit quietly at a conference. I want to get down to the bottom of why little nardi is clueless about his homework. Is it little nardi or is it Ms Ashley? So I ask pointed questions that aren't appreciated by the teachers that don't know what they're doing.

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"Look at the police protecting someone from being assaulted for their political views!"

What do they want the cop to do?

Murder racists.

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"Look at the police protecting someone from being assaulted for their political views!"

What do they want the cop to do?

Murder racists.
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"Look at the police protecting someone from being assaulted for their political views!"

What do they want the cop to do?

Murder racists.

What should the cops do that protect BLM protests ?

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"Look at the police protecting someone from being assaulted for their political views!"

What do they want the cop to do?

Murder racists.

What should the cops do that protect BLM protests ?

Listen, everyone is a little bit racist, but if we disappeared the most racist people I think everyone will be cool after that.

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teachers are so overrated. You could replace them with a basic cable subscription and do the same job.


This is wrong.

Yep, you don't even need cable.


Educator stock way up since the start of the Coronavirus. Definitely a bull market as far as teachers are concerned.

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"Look at the police protecting someone from being assaulted for their political views!"

What do they want the cop to do?

Murder racists.

What should the cops do that protect BLM protests ?

Listen, everyone is a little bit racist, but if we disappeared the most racist people I think everyone will be cool after that.

People will still fight over scarce resources and attach meaning to some characteristics of the out-group. So we'll have to have second, third, fourth (and so on) rounds of murdering.


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Yeah, on second thought, I don’t know if the mob can be placated.

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Jbi11s wrote:
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
"Look at the police protecting someone from being assaulted for their political views!"

What do they want the cop to do?

Murder racists.

What should the cops do that protect BLM protests ?

Listen, everyone is a little bit racist, but if we disappeared the most racist people I think everyone will be cool after that.
"Think the way I want you to or get murdered" sounds GREAT! A society centered on that way of thinking can't possibly go wrong!


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Your math is off. If it was .1% that would be 36 million.

There are 10 million arrests every year and according to available data 80% are for petty crimes. Disorderly conduct is the most popular one. I imagine most of the contacts are traffic related.

Its really hard to do this if you're going to get basic math so wrong. 36 million is 1% of 360 million, you can verify this very simply by multiply 36 million by 100.

.1% of 360 million is 360,000. If you dont believe me you can use a calculator to prove it.


I'm an idiot. I play with numbers all day too.


On the positive side, at least you proved the importance of competent math teachers to society.


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We have an irrational hate for teachers here. I'll never until it. Slurp cops every chance we get, but curse the very people who are partially responsible for educating and babysitting our kids.

Teachers have it SO MUCH HARDER than cops do!


They perform a job far more important to our future and get absolutely no respect. Teachers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cops


No respect?

Name another job where a good percentage of your customers give you a thank you card and gift 2 or more times each year.

I have plenty of respect for teachers despite the experience of the last few months. They are always on the list of people thrown into the regular "they are heroes" public conversation.


Those are bribes! Seriously, there are several teachers that I liked a lot, but I've never given a gift without thinking about how it may benefit my child.

Even your "respect" comes with a few slaps across the face. For some odd reason the police are above reproach to MANY.

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Vito Scotti was on The Virginian last night.

The guest star was Charles Bronson. Wait, the Charles Bronson? A guest star? What manner of show is this that has Charles Bronson on as a guest star?


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We have an irrational hate for teachers here. I'll never until it. Slurp cops every chance we get, but curse the very people who are partially responsible for educating and babysitting our kids.

I think that's painting with a broad brush. I was a public high school teacher for my and first 3 years out of college. It was a great experience. I learned a lot. I was good at it, but I saw fairly early that an entire career of teaching was going to make me a miserable human being so I went to grad school at night and started a new career.

I think the irrational hate or if you want to use a more accurate term like "contempt" or "indifference" or "disregard" stems from the fact that as a group, teachers have loudly complained over the years about being underpaid. You show me a room of 20 teachers and I'll point out at least 10 miserable adults. That's fine, except their profession is chosen. No one forces anyone to become a teacher. It's an honest, respectable profession, but I also don't find teachers to be the saviors many think they are. For many it becomes a coast job with a lot of time off and stable money. I've known many that are wonderful, committed people that do love children and take that role very seriously. Unfortunately, I've seen and experienced just as many that are just along for the ride.

If your experience is different than mine, I'm happy for you. Like anything, it's a career. If that's your calling....great. If it's not....do something else. The pay and benefits associated with being a teacher or pretty clearly stated up front and I don't see very few teachers struggling to make a living.

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We have an irrational hate for teachers here. I'll never until it. Slurp cops every chance we get, but curse the very people who are partially responsible for educating and babysitting our kids.

I think that's painting with a broad brush. I was a public high school teacher for my and first 3 years out of college. It was a great experience. I learned a lot. I was good at it, but I saw fairly early that an entire career of teaching was going to make me a miserable human being so I went to grad school at night and started a new career.

I think the irrational hate or if you want to use a more accurate term like "contempt" or "indifference" or "disregard" stems from the fact that as a group, teachers have loudly complained over the years about being underpaid. You show me a room of 20 teachers and I'll point out at least 10 miserable adults. That's fine, except their profession is chosen. No one forces anyone to become a teacher. It's an honest, respectable profession, but I also don't find teachers to be the saviors many think they are. For many it becomes a coast job with a lot of time off and stable money. I've known many that are wonderful, committed people that do love children and take that role very seriously. Unfortunately, I've seen and experienced just as many that are just along for the ride.

If your experience is different than mine, I'm happy for you. Like anything, it's a career. If that's your calling....great. If it's not....do something else. The pay and benefits associated with being a teacher or pretty clearly stated up front and I don't see very few teachers struggling to make a living.


I'm just comparing how this community and the public view teachers in comparison to cops or even firemen. We love cops and firemen and NEVER complain about salary increases for them. Firemen only work 2 or 3 days a week too. It's become teachers = democrats and cops/firemen = republicans for MANY.

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Sounds like the issue was the black kid was wearing shorts, but the host bumbled around and couldn't just say that.

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Sounds like the issue was the black kid was wearing shorts, but the host bumbled around and couldn't just say that.


The white kid who was sitting outside was wearing essentially the exact same outfit.

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The white kid who was sitting outside was wearing essentially the exact same outfit.


But not shorts.

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Sounds like the issue was the black kid was wearing shorts, but the host bumbled around and couldn't just say that.


The white kid clearly had more grit and determination. His cerebral approach when combined with the grit got him that seat at the table. The black kid clearly didn't get the most of out his potential and there are questions about his work ethic despite prodigious raw talent. It's a shame this generation is taught to celebrate baggy shorts and vulgar slang instead of hard work and respect for authority.


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The white kid who was sitting outside was wearing essentially the exact same outfit.


But not shorts.


Those were athletic shorts.

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Sounds like the issue was the black kid was wearing shorts, but the host bumbled around and couldn't just say that.


The white kid clearly had more grit and determination. His cerebral approach when combined with the grit got him that seat at the table. The black kid clearly didn't get the most of out his potential and there are questions about his work ethic despite prodigious raw talent. It's a shame this generation is taught to celebrate baggy shorts and vulgar slang instead of hard work and respect for authority.


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We have an irrational hate for teachers here. I'll never until it. Slurp cops every chance we get, but curse the very people who are partially responsible for educating and babysitting our kids.

I think that's painting with a broad brush. I was a public high school teacher for my and first 3 years out of college. It was a great experience. I learned a lot. I was good at it, but I saw fairly early that an entire career of teaching was going to make me a miserable human being so I went to grad school at night and started a new career.

I think the irrational hate or if you want to use a more accurate term like "contempt" or "indifference" or "disregard" stems from the fact that as a group, teachers have loudly complained over the years about being underpaid. You show me a room of 20 teachers and I'll point out at least 10 miserable adults. That's fine, except their profession is chosen. No one forces anyone to become a teacher. It's an honest, respectable profession, but I also don't find teachers to be the saviors many think they are. For many it becomes a coast job with a lot of time off and stable money. I've known many that are wonderful, committed people that do love children and take that role very seriously. Unfortunately, I've seen and experienced just as many that are just along for the ride.

If your experience is different than mine, I'm happy for you. Like anything, it's a career. If that's your calling....great. If it's not....do something else. The pay and benefits associated with being a teacher or pretty clearly stated up front and I don't see very few teachers struggling to make a living.


The teachers who tend to bitch the most are the ones that do nothing outside of the school day. They do not coach, run clubs or activities. They are also the ones on facebook bitching about how much work they do at home. Our my favorite, cheering for a snow day then complaining in June when we have to make them up.

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This isn't about teachers complaining.

It's about people complaining that teachers are over paid when they get the summer off.

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We have an irrational hate for teachers here. I'll never until it. Slurp cops every chance we get, but curse the very people who are partially responsible for educating and babysitting our kids.

I think that's painting with a broad brush. I was a public high school teacher for my and first 3 years out of college. It was a great experience. I learned a lot. I was good at it, but I saw fairly early that an entire career of teaching was going to make me a miserable human being so I went to grad school at night and started a new career.

I think the irrational hate or if you want to use a more accurate term like "contempt" or "indifference" or "disregard" stems from the fact that as a group, teachers have loudly complained over the years about being underpaid. You show me a room of 20 teachers and I'll point out at least 10 miserable adults. That's fine, except their profession is chosen. No one forces anyone to become a teacher. It's an honest, respectable profession, but I also don't find teachers to be the saviors many think they are. For many it becomes a coast job with a lot of time off and stable money. I've known many that are wonderful, committed people that do love children and take that role very seriously. Unfortunately, I've seen and experienced just as many that are just along for the ride.

If your experience is different than mine, I'm happy for you. Like anything, it's a career. If that's your calling....great. If it's not....do something else. The pay and benefits associated with being a teacher or pretty clearly stated up front and I don't see very few teachers struggling to make a living.


I'm just comparing how this community and the public view teachers in comparison to cops or even firemen. We love cops and firemen and NEVER complain about salary increases for them. Firemen only work 2 or 3 days a week too. It's become teachers = democrats and cops/firemen = republicans for MANY.

That's 9/11 Marketing...your point is valid. I apply the same logic and thoughts and those professions.
No one is forced into being a cop o fireman. Honest career. Good ones and bad ones make a living at it. Are they heroes? No....they chose a career that I did not find very interesting.

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This isn't about teachers complaining.

It's about people complaining that teachers are over paid when they get the summer off.


they don't get paid in the summer though !


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This isn't about teachers complaining.

It's about people complaining that teachers are over paid when they get the summer off.

Understood....that's not right either.

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We have an irrational hate for teachers here. I'll never until it. Slurp cops every chance we get, but curse the very people who are partially responsible for educating and babysitting our kids.

I think that's painting with a broad brush. I was a public high school teacher for my and first 3 years out of college. It was a great experience. I learned a lot. I was good at it, but I saw fairly early that an entire career of teaching was going to make me a miserable human being so I went to grad school at night and started a new career.

I think the irrational hate or if you want to use a more accurate term like "contempt" or "indifference" or "disregard" stems from the fact that as a group, teachers have loudly complained over the years about being underpaid. You show me a room of 20 teachers and I'll point out at least 10 miserable adults. That's fine, except their profession is chosen. No one forces anyone to become a teacher. It's an honest, respectable profession, but I also don't find teachers to be the saviors many think they are. For many it becomes a coast job with a lot of time off and stable money. I've known many that are wonderful, committed people that do love children and take that role very seriously. Unfortunately, I've seen and experienced just as many that are just along for the ride.

If your experience is different than mine, I'm happy for you. Like anything, it's a career. If that's your calling....great. If it's not....do something else. The pay and benefits associated with being a teacher or pretty clearly stated up front and I don't see very few teachers struggling to make a living.


I'm just comparing how this community and the public view teachers in comparison to cops or even firemen. We love cops and firemen and NEVER complain about salary increases for them. Firemen only work 2 or 3 days a week too. It's become teachers = democrats and cops/firemen = republicans for MANY.

That's 9/11 Marketing...your point is valid. I apply the same logic and thoughts and those professions.
No one is forced into being a cop o fireman. Honest career. Good ones and bad ones make a living at it. Are they heroes? No....they chose a career that I did not find very interesting.


That's more of good enough for me.

I think all can be heroic at times.

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"Look at the police protecting someone from being assaulted for their political views!"

What do they want the cop to do?

I agree the cop shouldn't let anyone beat that chick's ass and she has the right to say what she said.

But... calling "I will teach my grandchildren to hate you all!" a political view is quite the stretch.

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