denisdman wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
It's disingenuous to deny the anti teacher anti education position of much of the Right.
I have advocated for education on this board for over a decade. It is the most basic and necessary thing we can do to keep our competitive edge. I believe that many public school systems are broke beyond repair, and that we must admit that the system is failing. The outcomes of our primary education are way behind much of the developed world.
The MA model with high standards is a way forward if we want to continue with public education. I believe that states ranks in the top 5 on global tests scores. It is about setting high standards. The Finland model took that country from the mid-20’s equal to countries like Norway and Sweden and boosted it in the top league with South Korea. I would also look at the charter school model in NYC which is working very well in educating low income students. Their lottery system ensures that they don’t peel off the best students. The waiting lists are massive.
I will take any of those choices or some new model, and I am wiling to throw more money at it.
Only a short sighted idiot would truly be anti-teacher. Those folks are simply sick of high property taxes with terrible outcomes and broke pension systems.
The smartest kids in the world is the book that talks about the Finland model. And to blunt potential criticism that it is an all white country, the school that was studied was mostly immigrants from North Africa and the Middle East.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Smart ... orld_(book)
MA model.
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/a ... ht/483935/In order to truly assess what the better countries are doing you'd really have to do a much deeper dive. For instance the best ones usually only teach the best students. Now I will be the first to say that I am not the most versed when it comes to international systems but I am sort of versed when it comes to the American system.
The Greatest indicator of performance in education would be the income level of parents. They never talk about that because to so would require that there be a restructuring of our society's economy. No one in power wants to actually do and thus all of the focus is centered on the performance of teachers in the classroom.
Don't get me wrong. Instruction is an important component. Yoi don't want someone qualified to teach music teaching you about the 7 years war for instance. If you however wish to know what one of the leading indicators of academic performance happens to be it is best to simply check for the academic levels of the parents. More often than not your answer will come about from that.
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The Hawk wrote:
This is going to reach a head pretty soon.