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Shit does happen Zimmerman.

Shit does happen.

Whoever broke the gate should pay for it, that wasn't very nice.

So, Zimmerman, should the couple brandishing their weapons, at people walking past their house, have pulled the trigger?

Do you believe they would have been in their rights?

At some point, as 500 people made their way through the gate towards the mayor's house, the gate was wrenched upon and broken. Were these upstanding members of the community within their right to shoot their weapons?

What's your opinion ZLN?

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Pretty peaceful for a "mob". Looks like the gate may have been open.
The gate was UNLOCKED?! That's basically an invitation to enter, right? I mean yeah a door or gate is a barrier that implies a desire for the owner to not want someone to enter, but an open lock overrides that.


ZLN, how do you feel about the mayor doxxing minors and other members of the community, otentially putting their jobs and lives in jeapordy?

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is this the first guy to be strapped with an AR-15 while wearing a collared pink shirt? trailblazer! and a victory for short guys.



another note: if that is indeed their dwelling, you think you could afford to install a fence like every other rich homeowner?
Funny that people fail to mention this was on a private street that the mob had no permission to access.


JLN always there to protect those that dont need protection, pink shirt can afford a real lawyer though
And you're always ready to be stupid enough not to realize that there WAS a barrier to the street, which the mob broke through to gain access.


ok so a barrier to a subdivision is broken that means put on your best summer church shirt and grab your AR-15 and wave it around at the protestors? oh, dont forget to let your drunk housewife casually point a pistol at everyone. someone illegally entering a private subdivision doesnt mean you up the ante of stupid and wave automatic rifles around like they are props.

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Shit does happen Zimmerman.

Shit does happen.

Whoever broke the gate should pay for it, that wasn't very nice.

So, Zimmerman, should the couple brandishing their weapons, at people walking past their house, have pulled the trigger?

Do you believe they would have been in their rights?

At some point, as 500 people made their way through the gate towards the mayor's house, the gate was wrenched upon and broken. Were these upstanding members of the community within their right to shoot their weapons?

What's your opinion ZLN?
Who are you talking to?


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billypootons wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
billypootons wrote:
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is this the first guy to be strapped with an AR-15 while wearing a collared pink shirt? trailblazer! and a victory for short guys.



another note: if that is indeed their dwelling, you think you could afford to install a fence like every other rich homeowner?
Funny that people fail to mention this was on a private street that the mob had no permission to access.


JLN always there to protect those that dont need protection, pink shirt can afford a real lawyer though
And you're always ready to be stupid enough not to realize that there WAS a barrier to the street, which the mob broke through to gain access.


ok so a barrier to a subdivision is broken that means put on your best summer church shirt and grab your AR-15 and wave it around at the protestors? oh, dont forget to let your drunk housewife casually point a pistol at everyone. someone illegally entering a private subdivision doesnt mean you up the ante of stupid and wave automatic rifles around like they are props.

step one... call police, step 2, stay inside and wait for police
-rational people


When someone violently enters private property, the residents on that property are perfectly reasonable in arming themselves and readying to defend their property/selves.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
billypootons wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
billypootons wrote:
is this the first guy to be strapped with an AR-15 while wearing a collared pink shirt? trailblazer! and a victory for short guys.



another note: if that is indeed their dwelling, you think you could afford to install a fence like every other rich homeowner?
Funny that people fail to mention this was on a private street that the mob had no permission to access.


JLN always there to protect those that dont need protection, pink shirt can afford a real lawyer though
And you're always ready to be stupid enough not to realize that there WAS a barrier to the street, which the mob broke through to gain access.


ok so a barrier to a subdivision is broken that means put on your best summer church shirt and grab your AR-15 and wave it around at the protestors? oh, dont forget to let your drunk housewife casually point a pistol at everyone. someone illegally entering a private subdivision doesnt mean you up the ante of stupid and wave automatic rifles around like they are props.

step one... call police, step 2, stay inside and wait for police
-rational people


When someone violently enters private property, the residents on that property are perfectly reasonable in arming themselves and readying to defend their property/selves.


ok, sure


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billypootons wrote:
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ok so a barrier to a subdivision is broken that means put on your best summer church shirt and grab your AR-15 and wave it around at the protestors? oh, dont forget to let your drunk housewife casually point a pistol at everyone. someone illegally entering a private subdivision doesnt mean you up the ante of stupid and wave automatic rifles around like they are props.

step one... call police, step 2, stay inside and wait for police
-rational people


When someone violently enters private property, the residents on that property are perfectly reasonable in arming themselves and readying to defend their property/selves.


ok, sure
I'm glad you can understand.


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When someone violently enters private property, the residents on that property are perfectly reasonable in arming themselves and readying to defend their property/selves.

Do you feel the same about no knock raids?

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

When someone violently enters private property, the residents on that property are perfectly reasonable in arming themselves and readying to defend their property/selves.

Do you feel the same about no knock raids?


Stupid question libtard. In violet neighborhoods its' stupid to even knock. You must protect you're self at all cost. Just ridle the gang banger's home with bullets. Even if some1 dies who wasnt wanted then its likely they did something wrong in the past so they're kiling is justified in a court of law.

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 Post subject: Re: I Can't Breathe II
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
billypootons wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
billypootons wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
billypootons wrote:
is this the first guy to be strapped with an AR-15 while wearing a collared pink shirt? trailblazer! and a victory for short guys.



another note: if that is indeed their dwelling, you think you could afford to install a fence like every other rich homeowner?
Funny that people fail to mention this was on a private street that the mob had no permission to access.


JLN always there to protect those that dont need protection, pink shirt can afford a real lawyer though
And you're always ready to be stupid enough not to realize that there WAS a barrier to the street, which the mob broke through to gain access.


ok so a barrier to a subdivision is broken that means put on your best summer church shirt and grab your AR-15 and wave it around at the protestors? oh, dont forget to let your drunk housewife casually point a pistol at everyone. someone illegally entering a private subdivision doesnt mean you up the ante of stupid and wave automatic rifles around like they are props.

step one... call police, step 2, stay inside and wait for police
-rational people


When someone violently enters private property, the residents on that property are perfectly reasonable in arming themselves and readying to defend their property/selves.


George, it's pretty clear from the video that people were passing through the gate in an orderly fashion. At some point the gate was vandalized.

You don't know if it happened coming or going, do you?

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RFDC once again ahead of the game with his firm position of "St. Louis sucks"

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George

Wait, GJ...who is George?

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RFDC once again ahead of the game with his firm position of "St. Louis sucks"

:D

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George

Wait, GJ...who is George?

Edit: Oooooh, duh. Ignore that.


Zimmerman's Lecture Notes.

JLN has taken on the persona of wannabe neighborhood watch guy, attorney guy, cop guy know-it-all...he is the George Zimmerman of the board.

That is how I will be referring to him.

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Pretty peaceful for a "mob". Looks like the gate may have been open.


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Pretty peaceful for a "mob". Looks like the gate may have been open.


Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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What can I say, I watched the video and a dude was holding the gate for others to pass by...all orderly and shit.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

When someone violently enters private property, the residents on that property are perfectly reasonable in arming themselves and readying to defend their property/selves.

Do you feel the same about no knock raids?
Are you asking me if I'm fine with citizens arming themselves when a no-knock raid is performed and they shoot at police, and are you further asking me if I think they shouldn't be charged with a crime for shooting at the people coming through their door? Yep!


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“At that point, everybody got enraged,” McCloskey said. “There were people wearing body armor. One person pulled out some loaded pistol magazines and clicked them together and said that you were next. We were threatened with our lives, threatened with the house being burned down, my office building being burned down, even our dog’s life being threatened. It was about as bad as it can get.”
But the gate was unlocked! Someone held the gate open for the peaceful protesters before they destroyed it and threatened these people!


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“At that point, everybody got enraged,” McCloskey said. “There were people wearing body armor. One person pulled out some loaded pistol magazines and clicked them together and said that you were next. We were threatened with our lives, threatened with the house being burned down, my office building being burned down, even our dog’s life being threatened. It was about as bad as it can get.”
But the gate was unlocked! Someone held the gate open for the peaceful protesters before they destroyed it and threatened these people!


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Anders Walker, a constitutional law professor at St. Louis University, said that although it's "very dangerous" to engage protesters with guns, the homeowners broke no laws by brandishing or pointing weapons at them because Portland Place is a private street. He said the McCloskeys are protected by Missouri's Castle Doctrine, which allows people to use deadly force to defend private property.


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Shit does happen Zimmerman.

Shit does happen.

Whoever broke the gate should pay for it, that wasn't very nice.

So, Zimmerman, should the couple brandishing their weapons, at people walking past their house, have pulled the trigger?

Do you believe they would have been in their rights?

At some point, as 500 people made their way through the gate towards the mayor's house, the gate was wrenched upon and broken. Were these upstanding members of the community within their right to shoot their weapons?

What's your opinion ZLN?




Did you watch the full video? I watched the one on NY Post. It seems they only came out after the people started on their property and then made motions to the front entrance. The man never left front area and the shouting was basically telling them all to stay off. The state it happened in is a stand your ground when it involves your house.

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Shit does happen Zimmerman.

Shit does happen.

Whoever broke the gate should pay for it, that wasn't very nice.

So, Zimmerman, should the couple brandishing their weapons, at people walking past their house, have pulled the trigger?

Do you believe they would have been in their rights?

At some point, as 500 people made their way through the gate towards the mayor's house, the gate was wrenched upon and broken. Were these upstanding members of the community within their right to shoot their weapons?

What's your opinion ZLN?




Did you watch the full video? I watched the one on NY Post. It seems they only came out after the people started on their property and then made motions to the front entrance. The man never left front area and the shouting was basically telling them all to stay off. The state it happened in is a stand your ground when it involves your house.


I've yet to see anyone in the thread question the legality of their actions. Their judgement is poor at best.


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“At that point, everybody got enraged,” McCloskey said. “There were people wearing body armor. One person pulled out some loaded pistol magazines and clicked them together and said that you were next. We were threatened with our lives, threatened with the house being burned down, my office building being burned down, even our dog’s life being threatened. It was about as bad as it can get.”
But the gate was unlocked! Someone held the gate open for the peaceful protesters before they destroyed it and threatened these people!


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Anders Walker, a constitutional law professor at St. Louis University, said that although it's "very dangerous" to engage protesters with guns, the homeowners broke no laws by brandishing or pointing weapons at them because Portland Place is a private street. He said the McCloskeys are protected by Missouri's Castle Doctrine, which allows people to use deadly force to defend private property.


You quoted a legal scholar then highlighted the part of their statement that has nothing to do with their authority as a scholar.
:lol: Fucking idiot.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
billypootons wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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“At that point, everybody got enraged,” McCloskey said. “There were people wearing body armor. One person pulled out some loaded pistol magazines and clicked them together and said that you were next. We were threatened with our lives, threatened with the house being burned down, my office building being burned down, even our dog’s life being threatened. It was about as bad as it can get.”
But the gate was unlocked! Someone held the gate open for the peaceful protesters before they destroyed it and threatened these people!


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Anders Walker, a constitutional law professor at St. Louis University, said that although it's "very dangerous" to engage protesters with guns, the homeowners broke no laws by brandishing or pointing weapons at them because Portland Place is a private street. He said the McCloskeys are protected by Missouri's Castle Doctrine, which allows people to use deadly force to defend private property.


You quoted a legal scholar then highlighted the part of their statement that has nothing to do with their authority as a scholar.
:lol: Fucking idiot.


HEY PRETEND LAWYER... find in this thread where i've said what they did was illegal.

there are lots of things i can do that are legal AND stupid. the fact they reacted to one groups stupid decision by doing something ten times more stupid is what anyone with brains can decipher... you are hung up on the legal aspects of their stupid actions (of course, because as a pretend lawyer it's good to litigate)


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billypootons wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
billypootons wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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“At that point, everybody got enraged,” McCloskey said. “There were people wearing body armor. One person pulled out some loaded pistol magazines and clicked them together and said that you were next. We were threatened with our lives, threatened with the house being burned down, my office building being burned down, even our dog’s life being threatened. It was about as bad as it can get.”
But the gate was unlocked! Someone held the gate open for the peaceful protesters before they destroyed it and threatened these people!


For once a legal scholar has common sense
Quote:
Anders Walker, a constitutional law professor at St. Louis University, said that although it's "very dangerous" to engage protesters with guns, the homeowners broke no laws by brandishing or pointing weapons at them because Portland Place is a private street. He said the McCloskeys are protected by Missouri's Castle Doctrine, which allows people to use deadly force to defend private property.


You quoted a legal scholar then highlighted the part of their statement that has nothing to do with their authority as a scholar.
:lol: Fucking idiot.


HEY PRETEND LAWYER... find in this thread where i've said what they did was illegal.

there are lots of things i can do that are legal AND stupid. the fact they reacted to one groups stupid decision by doing something ten times more stupid is what anyone with brains can decipher... you are hung up on the legal aspects of their stupid actions (of course, because as a pretend lawyer it's good to litigate)
Find in this thread where I accused you of saying their actions were illegal you insufferable dolt.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
billypootons wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
billypootons wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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“At that point, everybody got enraged,” McCloskey said. “There were people wearing body armor. One person pulled out some loaded pistol magazines and clicked them together and said that you were next. We were threatened with our lives, threatened with the house being burned down, my office building being burned down, even our dog’s life being threatened. It was about as bad as it can get.”
But the gate was unlocked! Someone held the gate open for the peaceful protesters before they destroyed it and threatened these people!


For once a legal scholar has common sense
Quote:
Anders Walker, a constitutional law professor at St. Louis University, said that although it's "very dangerous" to engage protesters with guns, the homeowners broke no laws by brandishing or pointing weapons at them because Portland Place is a private street. He said the McCloskeys are protected by Missouri's Castle Doctrine, which allows people to use deadly force to defend private property.


You quoted a legal scholar then highlighted the part of their statement that has nothing to do with their authority as a scholar.
:lol: Fucking idiot.


HEY PRETEND LAWYER... find in this thread where i've said what they did was illegal.

there are lots of things i can do that are legal AND stupid. the fact they reacted to one groups stupid decision by doing something ten times more stupid is what anyone with brains can decipher... you are hung up on the legal aspects of their stupid actions (of course, because as a pretend lawyer it's good to litigate)
Find in this thread where I accused you of saying their actions were illegal you insufferable dolt.


rather than trade insults with the guy who was so insufferable he self banned himself....let me channel frank....
Was their decision to wildly brandish weapons a good one, yes or no? i say it was a poor decision.


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Was their decision to wildly brandish weapons a good one, yes or no? i say it was a poor decision.
I'm not going to answer such a vague question. How do you define "good" and "not good"?


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Was their decision to wildly brandish weapons a good one, yes or no? i say it was a poor decision.
I'm not going to answer such a vague question. How do you define "good" and "not good"?

How has he not quit again yet?

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Was their decision to wildly brandish weapons a good one, yes or no? i say it was a poor decision.
I'm not going to answer such a vague question. How do you define "good" and "not good"?

When would’ve been a good time for them to wildly brandish their weapons Bill ? As they were coming through their front door?

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