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The NBA and NBAPA care about human rights for people who look like they do.

That's fine but they should at least be honest about it.

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The NBA and NBAPA care about human rights for people who look like they do.

That's fine but they should at least be honest about it.


I think they care more about growing the business. I imagine that I or anyone that I've ever done business with can pass a purity test.

This is nothing more than ANOTHER attempt to diminish a fight that players are having about things that impact their communities.

"What about the genocide in Africa LeBron?"

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The NBA and NBAPA care about human rights for people who look like they do.

That's fine but they should at least be honest about it.


I think they care more about growing the business. I imagine that I or anyone that I've ever done business with can pass a purity test.

This is nothing more than ANOTHER attempt to diminish a fight that players are having about things that impact their communities.

"What about the genocide in Africa LeBron?"


I'm not trying to diminish anything.

I get why NBA players care more about what happens in black communities than what happens in China. Especially because China equals money. But you kind of forfeit any moral high ground when you do.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
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The NBA and NBAPA care about human rights for people who look like they do.

That's fine but they should at least be honest about it.


I think they care more about growing the business. I imagine that I or anyone that I've ever done business with can pass a purity test.

This is nothing more than ANOTHER attempt to diminish a fight that players are having about things that impact their communities.

"What about the genocide in Africa LeBron?"


I'm not trying to diminish anything.

I get why NBA players care more about what happens in black communities than what happens in China. Especially because China equals money. But you kind of forfeit any moral high ground when you do.


So they aren't allowed to have an opinion on police brutality simply because they haven't spoken out against China.

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The NBA and NBAPA care about human rights for people who look like they do.

That's fine but they should at least be honest about it.


I think they care more about growing the business. I imagine that I or anyone that I've ever done business with can pass a purity test.

This is nothing more than ANOTHER attempt to diminish a fight that players are having about things that impact their communities.

"What about the genocide in Africa LeBron?"


I'm not trying to diminish anything.

I get why NBA players care more about what happens in black communities than what happens in China. Especially because China equals money. But you kind of forfeit any moral high ground when you do.


So they aren't allowed to have an opinion on police brutality simply because they haven't spoken out against China.


Sure they are.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
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The NBA and NBAPA care about human rights for people who look like they do.

That's fine but they should at least be honest about it.


I think they care more about growing the business. I imagine that I or anyone that I've ever done business with can pass a purity test.

This is nothing more than ANOTHER attempt to diminish a fight that players are having about things that impact their communities.

"What about the genocide in Africa LeBron?"


I'm not trying to diminish anything.

I get why NBA players care more about what happens in black communities than what happens in China. Especially because China equals money. But you kind of forfeit any moral high ground when you do.


You are. You're saying unless they speak out about everything nothing that they say really matters. It's another version of, "If they did THIS, I would support them." None of us can spend our time fighting EVERY battle.

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NBA players can speak out about whatever they want.

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NBA players can speak out about whatever they want.


We all can. If we fail to mention something that doesn't take away from anything else that we do. Not speaking out about midget rights doesn't make you a monster or hypocrite.

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One could argue that what is happening in China is objectively worse than what is happening here.

Regardless, I do not expect athletes or the NBA to serve as world police. I will not judge them for sitting out whichever battle they choose. As an American WASP, I can relate to sitting out fights that don't seem to directly affect me.

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One could argue that what is happening in China is objectively worse than what is happening here.

Regardless, I do not expect athletes or the NBA to serve as world police. I will not judge them for sitting out whichever battle they choose. As an American WASP, I can relate to sitting out fights that don't seem to directly affect me.


We're all guilty of it. Even if we think something is "wrong".

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NBA players can speak out about whatever they want.

Uh...no they can't. China said so.


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NBA players can speak out about whatever they want.

Uh...no they can't. China said so.


Oh shit that's right.

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The NBA and NBAPA care about human rights for people who look like they do.

That's fine but they should at least be honest about it.


I think they care more about growing the business. I imagine that I or anyone that I've ever done business with can pass a purity test.

This is nothing more than ANOTHER attempt to diminish a fight that players are having about things that impact their communities.

"What about the genocide in Africa LeBron?"


I'm not trying to diminish anything.

I get why NBA players care more about what happens in black communities than what happens in China. Especially because China equals money. But you kind of forfeit any moral high ground when you do.


You are. You're saying unless they speak out about everything nothing that they say really matters. It's another version of, "If they did THIS, I would support them." None of us can spend our time fighting EVERY battle.

Not everything. They should speak out about places they gave direct relationships with though.

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IMU wrote:
One could argue that what is happening in China is objectively worse than what is happening here.

"one could argue"?

The Chinese government murders at least a few hundred thousand of their own people every year. Its not even comparable.


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One could argue that what is happening in China is objectively worse than what is happening here.

"one could argue"?

The Chinese government murders at least a few hundred thousand of their own people every year. Its not even comparable.


Very tiny percentage

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One could argue that what is happening in China is objectively worse than what is happening here.

"one could argue"?

The Chinese government murders at least a few hundred thousand of their own people every year. Its not even comparable.

They did great with the virus. Only 84,000 infected and 4600 dead. They're doing better than tiny countries like Columbia. AMAZING! If only we had leadership like President Xi. Instead, we're stuck with Literally Hitler.


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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/294 ... ut-jerseys

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The list of the approved suggested social messages, per the source, for the back of the NBA jerseys: Black Lives Matter; Say Their Names; Vote; I Can't Breathe; Justice; Peace; Equality; Freedom; Enough; Power to the People; Justice Now; Say Her Name; Sí Se Puede (Yes We Can); Liberation; See Us; Hear Us; Respect Us; Love Us; Listen; Listen to Us; Stand Up; Ally; Anti-Racist; I Am A Man; Speak Up; How Many More; Group Economics; Education Reform; and Mentor


Shocked "Free Hong Kong" isn't an approved message....

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Good brainstorm sesh. I like that they threw "si se puede" in there to remind us that we're supposed to care about Hispanic people too, we sorta told 'em to fuck off after the Sanders campaign met its end. Guess they backed the wrong caballo.

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I Am A Man was an interesting one too.

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I Am A Man was an interesting one too.
Everyone that wears #40 should automatically get that one

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I Am A Man was an interesting one too.
Everyone that wears #40 should automatically get that one

:lol:

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I Am A Man was an interesting one too.

That's from the Memphis strike. The Grizzlies crassly made a jersey out of it.

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Adam Silver is a better leader than the president. You know it's bad when Trumpets are trying to compare business decisions with the tweets, policies and statements of the president. Next they'll be comparing how NBA shutting down with the guidance of the Trump administration. As BeerFan used to say, you really can't make this shit up.
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NBA players can speak out about whatever they want.


We all can. If we fail to mention something that doesn't take away from anything else that we do. Not speaking out about midget rights doesn't make you a monster or hypocrite.

There's quite a difference between failing to mention something and then clamming up when confronted with the human rights abuses committed by the government you're getting cozy and doing business with, which is aggravated by the fact that you sing like a bird to deride domestic policies you find disagreeable.


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I Am A Man was an interesting one too.

That's from the Memphis strike. The Grizzlies crassly made a jersey out of it.

I forgot, the Grizzlies also had a uniform inspired by the railings at the Lorraine Motel, the place where Martin Luther King was shot.

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Some ideas shouldn't make it out of brainstorming.

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I Am A Man was an interesting one too.


It's from Culture Club's "Karma Chameleon"

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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29405787/source-nba-union-agree-list-social-messages-put-jerseys

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The list of the approved suggested social messages, per the source, for the back of the NBA jerseys: Black Lives Matter; Say Their Names; Vote; I Can't Breathe; Justice; Peace; Equality; Freedom; Enough; Power to the People; Justice Now; Say Her Name; Sí Se Puede (Yes We Can); Liberation; See Us; Hear Us; Respect Us; Love Us; Listen; Listen to Us; Stand Up; Ally; Anti-Racist; I Am A Man; Speak Up; How Many More; Group Economics; Education Reform; and Mentor


Shocked "Free Hong Kong" isn't an approved message....


Just. A. Business.

And sometimes players will criticize police once in awhile. The NBA is about as apolitical as you can get.


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Adam Silver is a better leader than the president. You know it's bad when Trumpets are trying to compare business decisions with the tweets, policies and statements of the president. Next they'll be comparing how NBA shutting down with the guidance of the Trump administration. As BeerFan used to say, you really can't make this shit up.
I didn't reference Trump in any way you fucking moron.


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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29405787/source-nba-union-agree-list-social-messages-put-jerseys

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The list of the approved suggested social messages, per the source, for the back of the NBA jerseys: Black Lives Matter; Say Their Names; Vote; I Can't Breathe; Justice; Peace; Equality; Freedom; Enough; Power to the People; Justice Now; Say Her Name; Sí Se Puede (Yes We Can); Liberation; See Us; Hear Us; Respect Us; Love Us; Listen; Listen to Us; Stand Up; Ally; Anti-Racist; I Am A Man; Speak Up; How Many More; Group Economics; Education Reform; and Mentor


Shocked "Free Hong Kong" isn't an approved message....


Just. A. Business.

And sometimes players will criticize police once in awhile. The NBA is about as apolitical as you can get.


At least now you know. Good job!

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