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Hearing him interviewed he has serious mental health issues past anxiety. Hope all is well.


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Hearing him interviewed he has serious mental health issues past anxiety. Hope all is well.



Take some fucking Welbutrin and suck it up.


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That's fine. I don't begrudge anybody sitting out the season given the circumstances.

But when the Sox win the World Series, he better not get a ring.


Now give your take if this were a cubs player.


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That's fine. I don't begrudge anybody sitting out the season given the circumstances.

But when the Sox win the World Series, he better not get a ring.


Now give your take if this were a cubs player.

When the Sox win the World Series he wouldn’t get a ring.

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I've always had some worry about Kopech and his mental state and this latest story has to be concerning to the White Sox. The guy looks very high strung to me and has ever since I saw him trying to throw a baseball 107mph. I said at the time that I felt that the guy would have to be very tough to coach and now it clearly seems that he has more significant issues than just that.

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That's fine. I don't begrudge anybody sitting out the season given the circumstances.

But when the Sox win the World Series, he better not get a ring.


Now give your take if this were a cubs player.
that's fine. I don't begrudge anybody sitting out the season given the circumstances.

The Cubs are not winning a World Series anytime soon so it's a moot point. Eat a bag of diarrhea.

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Was just looking at the #kopech hastag....fifth or six one was Good Ol' KS :lol:


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Was just looking at the #kopech hastag....fifth or six one was Good Ol' KS :lol:


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Seriously, if he’s not physically injured, give me a fucking break.

If it’s a mental health issue, fine. Just say so. If it were a torn UCL it would be reported. But with this COVID hysteria everyone is a Hippa advocate. Please.


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I've always had some worry about Kopech and his mental state and this latest story has to be concerning to the White Sox. The guy looks very high strung to me and has ever since I saw him trying to throw a baseball 107mph. I said at the time that I felt that the guy would have to be very tough to coach and now it clearly seems that he has more significant issues than just that.

Only thing worse than a weak minded pitcher is a weak minded QB. When he went on the SCORE and told his problems, I started writing him off right then and there.


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I've always had some worry about Kopech and his mental state and this latest story has to be concerning to the White Sox. The guy looks very high strung to me and has ever since I saw him trying to throw a baseball 107mph. I said at the time that I felt that the guy would have to be very tough to coach and now it clearly seems that he has more significant issues than just that.

Only thing worse than a weak minded pitcher is a weak minded QB. When he went on the SCORE and told his problems, I started writing him off right then and there.


There is no correlation between Kopech and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

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Baseball is currently providing an object lesson on why communism will never work. Every player has to do "what's best for him and his family". In spite of the seeming rising demand for communism in the U.S., almost no one takes issue with that.

And such philosophy isn't based upon an indoctrination in capitalism. It's simply mammalian nature. A mare cares more about her own foal than she does about the one across the pasture. And I'm pretty sure she isn't a capitalist.

There is no way to run a large group as a collective. The strongest personalities will always prevail. That's why collectivism always ends in dictatorship.

But whether it's baseball players or any other wealthy person who has the means and the wherewithal to "opt out" during this pandemic while relying on others to supply the essentials to keep them alive and maintain some semblance of society, it's anything but collectivism.

Here's a simple proposal. Anyone who decides to opt out of available work should also be required to opt out of the commercial food and healthcare systems. You can opt out, but don't expect others to risk their own lives to put food on your table. Plant a fucking garden.

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Eat a bag of diarrhea.


State Fair food has really just given up even trying.

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Seriously, if he’s not physically injured, give me a fucking break.

If it’s a mental health issue, fine. Just say so. If it were a torn UCL it would be reported. But with this COVID hysteria everyone is a Hippa advocate. Please.



Unless his wife is preggers and doesn't wanna risk it, he is a pussy. He doesn't have to deal with going to work the past 4 months during the pandemic, and he didn't have to watch his children the past 4 months. Take some fucking meds and get your ass out there. I have not heard one professional sports figure to come down with a bad version of the virus.


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Well with a limited season, and many players opting out, it is looking less legitimate by the day. Plus, folks testing positive are going to miss a high percentage of the season. I am liking this arrangement less and less.

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Well with a limited season, and many players opting out, it is looking less legitimate by the day. Plus, folks testing positive are going to miss a high percentage of the season. I am liking this arrangement less and less.

I am beginning to question the motivation for this actually happen.


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The players never wanted to play. They were happy to sit at home doing nothing. That's why they turned down every deal offered by the owners.

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The players never wanted to play. They were happy to sit at home doing nothing. That's why they turned down every deal offered by the owners.

qft

I think as the season draws closer you'll see more and more players opting out. I guess this is the value of having no stars though, at least even if Trout goes it wont be that big a deal.


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Cashman wrote:
Crick Ramp wrote:
Seriously, if he’s not physically injured, give me a fucking break.

If it’s a mental health issue, fine. Just say so. If it were a torn UCL it would be reported. But with this COVID hysteria everyone is a Hippa advocate. Please.



Unless his wife is preggers and doesn't wanna risk it, he is a pussy. He doesn't have to deal with going to work the past 4 months during the pandemic, and he didn't have to watch his children the past 4 months. Take some fucking meds and get your ass out there. I have not heard one professional sports figure to come down with a bad version of the virus.


How long is young talent considered to be a prospect? I think he's going to be 25 years old if he starts next season in the rotation with almost no major league experience. At least he should be fully recovered and well of the injury, but this sucks.

I'm not sure if teams (or why teams) wouldn't also further shelter starting pitchers and have them self-quarantine between starts as well.


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Well with a limited season, and many players opting out, it is looking less legitimate by the day. Plus, folks testing positive are going to miss a high percentage of the season. I am liking this arrangement less and less.


There are probably going to be players opting-out as the season goes on as well, especially if their teams are falling out of the race. Depending on how that plays out, some teams may get some breaks in the last ~2 weeks or so if healthy players are opting out.


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Several of the players opting out have pregnant wives, or in Posey's case, they just adopted premie twins who are in a NICU.

Posey is probably doing the Giants a favor, they have no realistic chance, he's in the last year of his contract, and they can use the money to pay him next year.

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denisdman wrote:
Well with a limited season, and many players opting out, it is looking less legitimate by the day. Plus, folks testing positive are going to miss a high percentage of the season. I am liking this arrangement less and less.


There are probably going to be players opting-out as the season goes on as well, especially if their teams are falling out of the race. Depending on how that plays out, some teams may get some breaks in the last ~2 weeks or so if healthy players are opting out.

The Cubs have 7 road games in Pittsburgh in September. I can't imagine the Pirates will have more than a bad AAAA lineup by that point.

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Baseball is currently providing an object lesson on why communism will never work. Every player has to do "what's best for him and his family". In spite of the seeming rising demand for communism in the U.S., almost no one takes issue with that.

And such philosophy isn't based upon an indoctrination in capitalism. It's simply mammalian nature. A mare cares more about her own foal than she does about the one across the pasture. And I'm pretty sure she isn't a capitalist.

There is no way to run a large group as a collective. The strongest personalities will always prevail. That's why collectivism always ends in dictatorship.

But whether it's baseball players or any other wealthy person who has the means and the wherewithal to "opt out" during this pandemic while relying on others to supply the essentials to keep them alive and maintain some semblance of society, it's anything but collectivism.

Here's a simple proposal. Anyone who decides to opt out of available work should also be required to opt out of the commercial food and healthcare systems. You can opt out, but don't expect others to risk their own lives to put food on your table. Plant a fucking garden.


It looks like you aren't coming back.

With very few exceptions, from our presidents to a guy working in a meat factory, everyone in this country has always done what is best for their family. If it happens to benefit someone else, so be it.

You oppose a mask mandate in places of business during a pandemic that EXPERTS believe is best for the collective and could save lives. That's Un-American to you. Now, you want to force EVERYONE to work during a pandemic that could increase their chances of dying and that of a loved one or you don't want them to eat. That's American to you.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Baseball is currently providing an object lesson on why communism will never work. Every player has to do "what's best for him and his family". In spite of the seeming rising demand for communism in the U.S., almost no one takes issue with that.

And such philosophy isn't based upon an indoctrination in capitalism. It's simply mammalian nature. A mare cares more about her own foal than she does about the one across the pasture. And I'm pretty sure she isn't a capitalist.

There is no way to run a large group as a collective. The strongest personalities will always prevail. That's why collectivism always ends in dictatorship.

But whether it's baseball players or any other wealthy person who has the means and the wherewithal to "opt out" during this pandemic while relying on others to supply the essentials to keep them alive and maintain some semblance of society, it's anything but collectivism.

Here's a simple proposal. Anyone who decides to opt out of available work should also be required to opt out of the commercial food and healthcare systems. You can opt out, but don't expect others to risk their own lives to put food on your table. Plant a fucking garden.


It looks like you aren't coming back.

With very few exceptions, from our presidents to a guy working in a meat factory, everyone in this country has always done what is best for their family. If it happens to benefit someone else, so be it.

You oppose a mask mandate in places of business during a pandemic that EXPERTS believe is best for the collective and could save lives. That's Un-American to you. Now, you want to force EVERYONE to work during a pandemic that could increase their chances of dying and that of a loved one or you don't want them to eat. That's American to you.


"EXPERTS" are the assholes who got us in the mess we are in now with the China virus. Bad data. Bad stay at home orders. Bad decisions regarding nursing homes. And, of course, misinformation and statements regarding the usefulness of masks. Along of course, with highly biased statements about the worth of certain medicines in favor of others all in the name of corporate greed and kickbacks to medical providers and government "EXPERTS"(see Dr. Fauci among others).

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Baseball is currently providing an object lesson on why communism will never work. Every player has to do "what's best for him and his family". In spite of the seeming rising demand for communism in the U.S., almost no one takes issue with that.

And such philosophy isn't based upon an indoctrination in capitalism. It's simply mammalian nature. A mare cares more about her own foal than she does about the one across the pasture. And I'm pretty sure she isn't a capitalist.

There is no way to run a large group as a collective. The strongest personalities will always prevail. That's why collectivism always ends in dictatorship.

But whether it's baseball players or any other wealthy person who has the means and the wherewithal to "opt out" during this pandemic while relying on others to supply the essentials to keep them alive and maintain some semblance of society, it's anything but collectivism.

Here's a simple proposal. Anyone who decides to opt out of available work should also be required to opt out of the commercial food and healthcare systems. You can opt out, but don't expect others to risk their own lives to put food on your table. Plant a fucking garden.

Kopech made you cranky as fuck. It's better we find out now he's a weak little sister while he still has good worth.


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Nardi wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Baseball is currently providing an object lesson on why communism will never work. Every player has to do "what's best for him and his family". In spite of the seeming rising demand for communism in the U.S., almost no one takes issue with that.

And such philosophy isn't based upon an indoctrination in capitalism. It's simply mammalian nature. A mare cares more about her own foal than she does about the one across the pasture. And I'm pretty sure she isn't a capitalist.

There is no way to run a large group as a collective. The strongest personalities will always prevail. That's why collectivism always ends in dictatorship.

But whether it's baseball players or any other wealthy person who has the means and the wherewithal to "opt out" during this pandemic while relying on others to supply the essentials to keep them alive and maintain some semblance of society, it's anything but collectivism.

Here's a simple proposal. Anyone who decides to opt out of available work should also be required to opt out of the commercial food and healthcare systems. You can opt out, but don't expect others to risk their own lives to put food on your table. Plant a fucking garden.

Kopech made you cranky as fuck. It's better we find out now he's a weak little sister while he still has good worth.


THIS is essentially what I was going to initially post. Far too often we find out about anxiety and other things after a big game.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Baseball is currently providing an object lesson on why communism will never work. Every player has to do "what's best for him and his family". In spite of the seeming rising demand for communism in the U.S., almost no one takes issue with that.

And such philosophy isn't based upon an indoctrination in capitalism. It's simply mammalian nature. A mare cares more about her own foal than she does about the one across the pasture. And I'm pretty sure she isn't a capitalist.

There is no way to run a large group as a collective. The strongest personalities will always prevail. That's why collectivism always ends in dictatorship.

But whether it's baseball players or any other wealthy person who has the means and the wherewithal to "opt out" during this pandemic while relying on others to supply the essentials to keep them alive and maintain some semblance of society, it's anything but collectivism.

Here's a simple proposal. Anyone who decides to opt out of available work should also be required to opt out of the commercial food and healthcare systems. You can opt out, but don't expect others to risk their own lives to put food on your table. Plant a fucking garden.


It looks like you aren't coming back.

With very few exceptions, from our presidents to a guy working in a meat factory, everyone in this country has always done what is best for their family. If it happens to benefit someone else, so be it.

You oppose a mask mandate in places of business during a pandemic that EXPERTS believe is best for the collective and could save lives. That's Un-American to you. Now, you want to force EVERYONE to work during a pandemic that could increase their chances of dying and that of a loved one or you don't want them to eat. That's American to you.


You just want to force some people to work during a pandemic. That's America to you.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Baseball is currently providing an object lesson on why communism will never work. Every player has to do "what's best for him and his family". In spite of the seeming rising demand for communism in the U.S., almost no one takes issue with that.

And such philosophy isn't based upon an indoctrination in capitalism. It's simply mammalian nature. A mare cares more about her own foal than she does about the one across the pasture. And I'm pretty sure she isn't a capitalist.

There is no way to run a large group as a collective. The strongest personalities will always prevail. That's why collectivism always ends in dictatorship.

But whether it's baseball players or any other wealthy person who has the means and the wherewithal to "opt out" during this pandemic while relying on others to supply the essentials to keep them alive and maintain some semblance of society, it's anything but collectivism.

Here's a simple proposal. Anyone who decides to opt out of available work should also be required to opt out of the commercial food and healthcare systems. You can opt out, but don't expect others to risk their own lives to put food on your table. Plant a fucking garden.

Kopech made you cranky as fuck. It's better we find out now he's a weak little sister while he still has good worth.



THIS is essentially what I was going to initially post. Far too often we find out about anxiety and other things after a big game.


Still won't stop the Bears from signing them.


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