Why do you keep asking this question? I haven't advocating for or against masks in this debate. I'm criticizing your selfish attitude which you've taken great lengths to avoid addressing.

I don't care if they help or not. I don't want to wear one.

You are pretty clear yourself. We must wear them for an arbitrary amount of time that I feel even if there is no evidence or facts or whatever. I'm moral and generous. Anybody with a different view sucks and I'm much much much better and smarter than them.

There are studies and science indicating that masks work. Some choose to not to believe them or think they are based in politics. Fair enough, but they exist and some have been posted in this thread.

But I think we can all agree that if they do work, it would take a majority, which we do not have and will not have since so many people are against them.

Best hope is a treatment, imo

Can you quote where I've stated such?

can you just shave your face? whats so hard about shaving? many people are doing it, you should too

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

Georgia Governor Brian Kemp overruled local mask mandates this morning.

He actually said "tell Deacon Blues, tell him I said it!"

Kemp is in the wrong here and another Governor drunk on power(just on the other side of the issue). Local counties should have the authority. The power grab by these leaders is disturbing.

wearing masks has some benefit into slowing the spread of covid-19. There is no doubt about that.

How much benefit they're actually is, we really don't know. Just like the reported cases and deaths are skewed. All of the numbers have issues with reporting. Most of the science seems to have issues as well. Nothing is foolproof. MANY people realize that. But when you have an organization like the CDC that actively contradicts itself, it makes it harder and harder for regular people to "trust the science"

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Yes, of course masks working means a certain degree.

As far as the CDC contradicting itself, it seems very believable to me that they didnt want people hoarding masks and at the time so they said masks arent necessary. Also there were way less cases then.

I understand the distrust though for sure.

Do we know if there were less cases then, they weren't testing at all?

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Good point, less known cases.

Mainly though, I believe the hoarding story. We hoarded toilet paper. If they said we need masks it would have been that X 10

We know how this ends. The research winds up being rushed for political purposes and when its actually peer reviewed it all gets shot down. Of course by then its too late and the damage of the misinformation has been done.

Rofl. Posted on CFMB. It must be true.

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Research shows masks, combined with other protective measures, significantly reduce the spread of viruses...including this one.

See how other countries have handled the pandemic with masks and social distancing protocols.

See them opening up.

We're a nation of idiots.

Full stop.

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if they were going to lie, wouldn't it have made more sense for them to say "hey for this particular virus the cloth and homemade masks actually work better than surgical masks so make those at home and leave the surgical mask for the medical personnel"

That would have had people wearing masks, but not going out buying masks like they did toilet paper. Back in March, nobody would have known the difference anyway.

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If one thing has been made clear, people will do whatever they want regardless of guidance/requests from those institutions, so no, I dont think so.

I find the "we worried hoarding would limit the medical professional supply" to be believable. Doesnt mean it's true for sure but its not crazy, seems to make sense.

Sweden never did the things the USA did. It is societally taboo to wear masks in New Zealand, the only country to beat it. Your "research" is garbage. It was rushed for the expressed purpose of being lapped up by gullible retards like you.

Like everything the liberals claim is scientific fact (with the notable exception of climate change), its either because a) they've made it political suicide to honestly research it (transgenderism the big one here) or b) they rush out bullshit studies and dissimenate them before they can be shot down in peer review.

I agree, arps. But when you have an organization like that contradicting itself after only a couple of weeks, and no real plan from the federal government coupled with the president tweeting a bunch of nonsense, it makes it very hard for anybody to follow one concise plan.

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there is definitely a faction of this nation that are hyperactive little Bbitches that go "full steam ahead" spreading paranoia.

These people are much more of a detriment to our society than those who refuse to wear a mask.

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That can be anyone's easy explanation of any phenomenon--especially when they are backed into a corner when their other explanations crumble under scrutiny into hardened fragments of bullshit.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

she's hot

What damage?

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Please die in a fire.

Also she is stupid

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Please die in a fire.

He went on to say...


“For one the COVID-19 crisis in the United States continues to escalate and recalling that our deep integration with the U.S. nearly became our undoing in March we must remember that even with the border closed the U.S. remains accessible to essential travel. This means that seeding can occur in our community at any time,” he warned. “Asymptomatic spread also means that community transmission continues to lurk and may be seen in sporadic cases and clusters.”

Why do you think the earth is flat?

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Please die in a fire.

Hey dumbfuck, where have you been? Do you not see society unraveling before your eyes?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

That’s a he? Now I am wondering about Tommy....

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Thats a great point. This was never about eliminating the disease at the beginning. Real medical experts knew that to eliminate a disease like this would perhaps take years if ever at all. So, at the beginning it was all about trying to contain and control it. But then the goal posts have been consistently changed and the definitions used were changed in their meaning. All because of politics and by greed and self interest in the political and medicine/health services sectors.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip