Spaulding wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Don't know what you mean by 2 wrongs but the way that Trump speaks of cities like Baltimore and Chicago is equally off putting. He would never speak similarly of say, the Appalachia region of the country and therein lies the rub.
What is considered American is this country is often what is considered white in America.
As far as the poster goes what he expressed is equally bigoted and prejudicial and if said by a white supremacist there would be outrage and rightfully so.
People hate Ilhan Omar. She’s a terrible person. People are going to say hateful and shitty things about her and it has nothing to do with her race or religion. It’s because of her terrible thoughts.
I think when Trump says things about Baltimore and Chicago it’s because the leaders of those places crap on him. He’s petty and likes to insult people that insult him. He doesn’t say it about Appalachia because Appalachia doesn’t say it about him. He does say it about San Francisco which is mostly white/Asian because Pelosi shits all over him and I think that’s a more apt comparison. I don’t think any of it is particularly good for our country or politics.
Chicago is rat infested.
https://www.thrillist.com/news/nation/u ... nked-orkin You can look up Orkin reports by year and both cities have been criticized for it long before Trump said anything. The WaPo isn’t racist or conservative. They reported on it too, rather negatively.
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What is considered American is this country is often what is considered white in America.
Are you saying black people don’t value the scientific method, family, self reliance, hard work, ownership, or being polite? Those are all good positive things. I’d be insulted if the “National Museum of White History and Culture” came out and said those things are stupid and not for white people you just can’t achieve them.
Those things shouldn't be thought of as white, imo. They should be thought of as American.
Nah. Trump is careful not to say it about Appalachia because it is predominantly white and nothing else. He was saying things about Chicago long before Chicago ever paid attention to him.
He knew what he was doing. The Appalachia region has a huge drug problem, excess poverty, "terrible education system" and a relatively high crime rate and Trump wouldn't dare to ever crap on it
This is simply another example of viewing "America" through two different lenses. When it is examples of white racism it appears to always be less clarity as to what constitutes it. When it is black racism the views are much more definitive and decisive.
As far as the scientific method goes I don't think that any of the attributes that the guy described are exclusive to one race of people or another. I think that each values those things. Unfortunately the way that it is spun is that minorities, particularly blacks do not.
For instance I could point to numerous instances of Hawk claiming that I seek reparations for blacks. I have never said anything of the sort. That speaks to his prejudicial views regarding blacks and laziness. Something that the author referenced by his "Hardwork" comments.
.WFR repeatedly claimed that Alcindor was hired because there was a "need for diversity" which he considered a "problem". This was obviously a bigoted comment though not one person here referred to it (despite numerous attempts to have them do it) nor did they openly disagree with it. He later doubled down on his earlier bigotry by claiming that "idiocy shouldn't be rewarded because of her race". Again he received a pass despite numerous attempts to have someone comment about it.
The difference between you, and a few others here is that I have no problem with referring to what the guy from the Smithsonian stated as being bigoted. It was bigoted and most definitely at its core stereotypical even though there were some aspects that had merit. I have no problem with referring to Louis Farrakhan as an Anti Semite either. He is. It's always dangerous and irresponsible to paint any group of people with a broad brush. No group is a monolith in terms of thought. There are always divergent viewpoints to be found yet each ascribed singular qualities to entire groups of individuals
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The Hawk wrote:
This is going to reach a head pretty soon.