I don't know what more you want.

I said he was a bigot, I said he posted "bigoted shit", and I said his banning was warranted. You're being completely unreasonable, and I'm done engaging with you on this topic because you seem hell-bent on constantly moving the goalposts, because now, what is it, I have to find me calling out a specific brand of bigotry from a specific set of posters? Nah, I'm good. Fuck you.

What you've quoted here does not imply in any way that I thought America shouldn't have been banned. In fact the only words I've spoken about whether he should've been banned were unequivocally in support of the banning.
You can continue to lie about it if you want to, but that's the truth, and you know it.

Nobody here except board moderators can ban a poster, if the board is to be "policed" by the membership, why were two posters recently banned? Is there a new moderator?

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Seattle City Council member wants white officers fired first....because they're white.

I'm ignoring your stuff about anti-semitism because it is complete lunacy and doesn't make any sense to me.

I'm saying that you have characterized people as "supporters" of movements (conservatism, racism, etc.) and regimes (Trump administration) for attacking the critiques of those things, but when it is the NBA and/or NBA players trying to silence Daryl Morey's criticism of China, somehow you arrive at the decision to characterize those actions (silencing Morey and refusing to criticize China when asked directly about their human rights abuses) merely as a "business decision" and not support of the regime in China. It's obvious that you do it, and it's obvious why you do it. What is any kind of wonder anymore is that you continue to try to do it at all.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

In his opinion the failure of the NBA to speak out against China must mean that they are "supporters of the regime". Ok that must mean that his failure to speak out against the Anti Semitism of two banned posters was based on his support of their views correct?



Now juxtapose this with one of his many takes on the NBA. Once again trying to make flip as it is I that feels this why. That's his way of trying to disguise his true feelings. An utter piece of shit.

Now you've resorted to outright lying. The quote about "ignoring your stuff about anti-semitism" was me responding TO YOU, not me saying that I'm ignoring abject anti-semitism, as you've tried to make it appear here.

http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p3098873

Also hilarious that you pick a quote where I say that the NBA silencing criticism of China is support for the regime, not that silence on an issue is support of it.

You continue to reveal yourself as nothing more than an utter scumbag without an ounce of intellectual honesty.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

How many quotes do you want me to find of you bashing the NBA:for not speaking out on China you lying piece of shit? Are you now claiming that you never bashed them for failing to criticize China?

All I'm doing is demonstrating what a hypocritical piece of shit and bigot that you happen to be. You never criticized America or Toxic for being Anti Semitic. Not once. Each time you bit your tongue and then complained once they were banned for it. I have not lied or fabricated one thing that I have said about your pathetic ass. You aren't even worth lying over you sorry fuck.

Now you've resorted to outright lying. The quote about "ignoring your stuff about anti-semitism" was me responding TO YOU, not me saying that I'm ignoring abject anti-semitism, as you've tried to make it appear here.

http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p3098873

Also hilarious that you pick a quote where I say that the NBA silencing criticism of China is support for the regime, not that silence on an issue is support of it.

You continue to reveal yourself as nothing more than an utter scumbag without an ounce of intellectual honesty.

The NBA said that it recognized that Morey's words were offensive to China. Therefore, the NBA conceded that Morey's words were offensive. Again, this is how words work.

Recognizing that words offended China is to recognize that the words were offensive to China. This is a simple fact of how words and logic work.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Do you consider either of these comments to be racist?

I'm not indulging your non sequiturs, LTG.

Its funny how you attempt to feign ignorance. Truly interesting. Also funny how you repeatedly duck the stuff about Anti Semitism. You know why you are ducking it? Because I am right thats why. The only person that i have ever seen you attempt to tie to Anti Semitism is me. You even went so far as try to protect the actual Anti Semites (because you agree with them) on here after doing it

Funny how all of a sudden the Woke Bae League has simply "spoken out in police brutality a few times".

Funny how you (and not they)are the person who provided that particular name for them. They have never referred to themselves as the "Woke Bae League" so why should you?

Because I want to make fun of a sports league and its players that brand themselves around wokeness, especially when that league and those players are such blatant hypocritical frauds about their wokeness.

I'm ignoring your stuff about anti-semitism because it is complete lunacy and doesn't make any sense to me.

Lecture Notes"] I can see you're not going to answer my question because even you can't deny how insanely hypocritical the NBA is being.

What's hypocritical is your castigation of the NBA while providing a pass to Trump for it. Again. You will never criticize Trump about anything. You're the actual hypocrite.

As far as the NBA goes (And America) it didn't take Daryl Morey speaking about China for them to know that they were human rights violators. They have always known that and yet they still conducted business with them anyway.

It's also fair to say that you don't give a damn about human rights violations in China and never have. You only cite it as a reason to bash the NBA for being the "woke" league.

"The NBA doesn't care about human rights violations in China and that's fine!"

"You're an asshole who doesn't really care about human rights violations in China!"

You fucking dunce.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Lecture Notes"] I can see you're not going to answer my question because even you can't deny how insanely hypocritical the NBA is being.

Because I want to make fun of a sports league and its players that brand themselves around wokeness, especially when that league and those players are such blatant hypocritical frauds about their wokeness.

I'm ignoring your stuff about anti-semitism because it is complete lunacy and doesn't make any sense to me.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Thank you for admitting you moved the goalposts. First it was that I didn't support their banning. When I posted evidence supporting the banning all of a sudden you said I didn't condemn their bigotry. When I posted evidence of me condemning their bigotry you moved the posts yet again and now want to see evidence of me condemning a specific sub-set of bigotry from specific posters

Finally, I find it pretty silly that you're actually fighting for a guy's "right" to post "black people are trash."

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

As he ducks the question of Anti Semitism and Racism (lest it's a black person that he happens to accuse) Talk about a dichotomous way of thinking!

The reality is that if you would have criticized him for casual use of racially charged language instead of repeatedly accusing him of saying "the n-word", you may have had a point, hypocritical as it would have been given your ugly history on here with open and casual racism displayed towards Asians.

he implores the NBA coincidentally "the Woke (code for black) Bae League

"Their bigotry" You referred to their bigotry as a "bit" which means in your opinion they really didn't mean it.

http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p3074176



That's me calling out Caller Bob's bigotry. Is Caller Bob white?

Where in the name of hell are you getting that "woke" is code for anything? Woke is its own descriptive word. You can't just make shit up to pin on me. Only an intellectually dishonest cretin would do that.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Where have you ever called out Toxic and America for being Anti Semitic?

If you can prove that you have then this:exercise stops.

Where in the name of hell are you getting that "woke" is code for anything? Woke is its own descriptive word. You can't just make shit up to pin on me. Only an intellectually dishonest cretin would do that.

Woke (/ˈwoʊk/) as a political term of African American origin refers to a perceived awareness of issues concerning social justice and racial justice. It is derived from the African-American Vernacular English expression "stay woke", whose grammatical aspect refers to a continuing awareness of these issues

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

I already have proven it by proving that I called out their bigotry. Antisemitism is bigotry. I used "bigoted shit" when I called it out over "anti-Semitic shit" because "bigoted" covers both their anti-semitism and their racism.

But go ahead and move the goalposts AGAIN. OR you're going to tell me that you know what I meant and didn't mean in my use of "bigoted shit".

Eh, alright. The bit was growing tired, and it seemed like he kept amping it up to get to the same place the bit got him before, but in doing so he became indistinguishable from an unhinged bigot.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

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What's intellectually dishonest about this you lying sack of shit?.

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What's intellectually dishonest about this you lying sack of shit?.

The part where you're taking my use of a term with a clearly defined meaning (which you just quoted) and tacking on a meaning that isn't in the definition that you quoted.



See? Goalposts moved. I stated unequivocally that they posted bigoted shit. I even just said it now, and said they were anti-semitic. Case closed.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

ltg: sometimes you have to ask yourself is the juice worth the squeeze?

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

The origins of the term Woke began with African Americans. I just sourced it dumbass.

You're right. The stupid fuck has been cooked. I knew that when he made the "Jorr really didn't mean the things that he said" comments. What an asswipe. He only sees Anti Semitism when it involves black people with his bigoted ass. Check his file if you feel like "squeezing" anytime soon

Funny shit considering you have never met a racist or bigoted comment that you wouldn't ignore (As you did with fellow bigot WFR earlier)

ltg wins again. Buy that man a drink.

Marxism is when the thing is bad.

It has become increasingly common for commentators to describe Black Lives Matter as a ‘Marxist’ movement. Most such characterisations have been pejorative, intended to discredit the organisation. But at the same time, one BLM co-founder was more than comfortable describing herself and her colleagues as ‘trained Marxists’.

It serves the interests of both critics and supporters of BLM to talk about it as a Marxist outfit. Critics get to dismiss BLM as part of the loony left, and supporters get to believe they are part of something genuinely revolutionary. But are they right?

Perhaps the most defining characteristic of Marxism is its explanation of class and its role in society. The Communist Manifesto famously claims that, ‘The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles’. In other words, class conflict is the driving force of history. Revolutions happen when societies can no longer contain that conflict.

Marx said such revolutions can only be successful if oppressed classes become sufficiently unified to be able to outnumber and overcome those in power. Attaining class consciousness, and rejecting the artificial differences imposed upon us by our rulers as a means of keeping us at war with one another, is key to bringing about change.

Fast-forward to today and many of the so-called Marxists of BLM are virtually devoid of any analysis of class at all.

One example of this refusal properly to engage with class is the accusation of ‘class reductionism’, levelled against those arguing that class is just as important as race in explaining inequality. Adolph Reed Jr – a black Marxist – was recently deplatformed for his ‘class reductionist’ views on race. Taking the traditional Marxist approach lands you in hot water with activists who live and die by the all-subsuming doctrine of institutional racism.

In fact, the BLM movement doesn’t only ignore class analysis, it also obscures the reality of class relations. The constant focus on ‘white privilege’, for instance, has come at the expense of any recognition that lots of poor white people suffer from deprivations, police violence and prejudice, too. Racial disparities are a problem. But obsessing over white privilege stands in the way of any real attempt to draw on the common experiences of the white and black working classes, with the aim of building a cross-racial campaign for change. Instead of putting aside our differences, we are encouraged to wallow in them.

Talk of ‘white fragility’, a term coined by Robin DiAngelo and discussed in her best-selling book of the same name, is an example of this trend. It undermines cross-racial unity by focusing on difference and by insisting that all whites are inherently racist. As Luke Gittos has pointed out on spiked: ‘By fixating on “whiteness” as the root of all the problems facing black Americans, DiAngelo discounts the possibility that solidarity in the face of common problems can be more powerful than racial identity.’ The same is true for BLM more broadly.

Indeed, how can the workers unite across racial lines if today’s anti-racist movement is right that the lived experiences of black and white people are so totally different? And if white workers are inherently racist, why would black workers want to join with them?

Modern identity politics wrongly views society as a split between a white ruling class and a non-white mass proletariat. It refuses to engage with the reality that Marx identified – that workers can be equally exploited regardless of their origins, and that the key to progressive change lies in building bridges between hitherto distinct communities rather than in setting them apart. In this regard Black Lives Matter clearly stands in opposition to Marxism.

Other woke campaigns have similarly been described (or dismissed) as an offshoot of Marxism. Right-wing critics of things like identity politics, political correctness and the trans movement say we are witnessing the rise of ‘Cultural Marxism’. But these movements are often more reactionary than revolutionary. We have only to look at how quick multinational corporations have been to endorse the woke worldview to see how utterly un-radical it is.

Every big firm from McDonald’s to Apple has doffed its cap to Black Lives Matter. Even members of the royal family – the epitome of inherited power and privilege – have backed BLM. When you have the backing of these sorts of people, you know you are not about to turn the world upside down in favour of workers’ revolution. The fashion today is less for champagne socialism and more for iPhone identitarianism, it seems.

The ‘Marxist’ appellation is not simply false, though. It is also both counter-productive and dangerous. George Orwell warned about the political implications of using ‘meaningless words’ in his great essay, ‘Politics and the English Language’. Bemoaning the abuse and overuse of the word ‘fascism’, in words that ring truer today than ever, he said that word now had ‘no meaning except insofar as it signifies something not desirable’.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

Weird, I see Dolphin looking in my asshole

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.