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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:28 am 
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Public health officials have provided guidance and recommendations to prevent spread. Segments of people have decide the guidance and recommendations can go fuck themselves. But also the government has been deemed a failure in containing the virus.
Most of this is true. The biggest problem is that the damn PRESIDENT has been acting like a lunatic and actively lying about this thing since day one. Had Trump actually acted like a true leader and told the truth, we would be in much better shape right now.

I can't believe there is all this angst about masks. The controversy once the vaccine is approved is going to be insanity!

What if there is never a vaccine? Do we wear masks forever?

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Do you have your eyes closed?
His eyes aren't closed, but he definitely has blinders on. Schools have been closed since March, and likely won't be open as normal for at least the first half of the upcoming school year. The South and West sides of the city LTG resides in were gutted just a few weeks ago. But the second JLN posts something that might be the least bit offensive, he's there quoting and insulting.

But hey, lets rename a football team and get rid of a Christopher Columbus statue!

LTG and people like him are sweeping up bread crumbs and bragging about doing so, while the bread in the oven is actively burning.


So now you are another in a long list of bigotry enablers on here! Shocking and no I'm not calling you a bigot but you sure are an enabler.

As far as the South and West sides of the City goes they were gutted decades ago and people like you (conveniently residing in the Southwest Suburbs) never gave a damn so bite me with the newfound and rather ill timed sanctimony.

Both parts of the city I am intimately familiar with unlike you and bigots like JLN whose info comes from some other bigots Twitter feed if at all.

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The controversy once the vaccine is approved is going to be insanity!

It will. I'll let you all go for the first round and see how it plays out.

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But we know, statistically kids are immune to this virus, and they are not super spreaders.


There is no way that is known. Kids haven't been in a school setting since March.

It is impossible to say what happens once kids are back together by the hundreds and thousands.

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:lol: LTG, you enable more hate than any non-mult or Elmhurst Steve that posts here. Period end of discussion.


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What if there is never a vaccine? Do we wear masks forever?
There is definitely going to be a part of society that will want this and actively push to make it so.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
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But we know, statistically kids are immune to this virus, and they are not super spreaders.


There is no way that is known. Kids haven't been in a school setting since March.

It is impossible to say what happens once kids are back together by the hundreds and thousands.


Incorrect. It's known
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-C ... S8RalpThKA


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Kirkwood wrote:
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Public health officials have provided guidance and recommendations to prevent spread. Segments of people have decide the guidance and recommendations can go fuck themselves. But also the government has been deemed a failure in containing the virus.
Most of this is true. The biggest problem is that the damn PRESIDENT has been acting like a lunatic and actively lying about this thing since day one. Had Trump actually acted like a true leader and told the truth, we would be in much better shape right now.

I can't believe there is all this angst about masks. The controversy once the vaccine is approved is going to be insanity!

What if there is never a vaccine? Do we wear masks forever?


What will happen when all the people who get the vaccine still get the virus and also develop some sort of cancer a few years from now

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Caller Bob wrote:
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But we know, statistically kids are immune to this virus, and they are not super spreaders.


There is no way that is known. Kids haven't been in a school setting since March.

It is impossible to say what happens once kids are back together by the hundreds and thousands.


Incorrect. It's known
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-C ... S8RalpThKA


:lol:

Look at Bob citing the CDC.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
It is impossible to say what happens once kids are back together by the hundreds and thousands.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
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But we know, statistically kids are immune to this virus, and they are not super spreaders.


There is no way that is known. Kids haven't been in a school setting since March.

It is impossible to say what happens once kids are back together by the hundreds and thousands.


Incorrect. It's known
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-C ... S8RalpThKA


:lol:

Look at Bob citing the CDC.


Those numbers seem correct. Trust me, if kids were dying of this, the panic peddlers would let us know.


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If I recall correctly, the bit was IF you can't stay 6 feet from a person, masks are required. So theoretically, you can help that old lady if you have masks on.
I don't disagree. But the fact that I actually touched a box of pasta that she wants to buy may scare her into not actually buying it anymore! Some (not all) people were wiping down groceries and leaving Amazon deliveries in the garage because the box MIGHT have germs on it. This wasn't even a thought in the craziest person's mind back in January.

I agree with all that. I still haven't gotten JORR's point about masks. Everything else, HELL YES


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:lol: LTG, you enable more hate than any non-mult or Elmhurst Steve that posts here. Period end of discussion.

By doing what? Calling out bigots. This statement alone demonstrates just how much of a"safe space" that clowns like you prefer that it be for the Hawks, WFRs,JLNs, Leotardos, Chas's of the world etc.

Oh but that BMac has to go! What a dope.

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Nardi wrote:
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If I recall correctly, the bit was IF you can't stay 6 feet from a person, masks are required. So theoretically, you can help that old lady if you have masks on.
I don't disagree. But the fact that I actually touched a box of pasta that she wants to buy may scare her into not actually buying it anymore! Some (not all) people were wiping down groceries and leaving Amazon deliveries in the garage because the box MIGHT have germs on it. This wasn't even a thought in the craziest person's mind back in January.

I agree with all that. I still haven't gotten JORR's point about masks. Everything else, HELL YES



You really don't think a masked society is a degraded society? And this idea that it's some temporary four week thing is nonsense. The demanded masking is indefinite.

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The controversy once the vaccine is approved is going to be insanity!

It will. I'll let you all go for the first round and see how it plays out.

No problem. I let you know how it turns out.


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I still haven't gotten JORR's point about masks. Everything else, HELL YES
I thought JORR was posting a lot of doom and gloom back in March. Almost more than anybody else here. But now if you look back at his posts, except for maybe a few of the most hysterical #RESIST ones, he's been one of the most consistent and accurate regulars on here since then.

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Caller Bob wrote:
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But we know, statistically kids are immune to this virus, and they are not super spreaders.


There is no way that is known. Kids haven't been in a school setting since March.

It is impossible to say what happens once kids are back together by the hundreds and thousands.


Incorrect. It's known
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-C ... S8RalpThKA


:lol:

Look at Bob citing the CDC.


Those numbers seem correct. Trust me, if kids were dying of this, the panic peddlers would let us know.


I agree they haven't been affected yet.

I'm saying they haven't been in a position to behave and interact as they normally do on a daily basis.

Once they are back in that routine, things may turn out differently.

And hell, maybe they won't.

But we won't know until they get in that routine.

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Caller Bob wrote:
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But we know, statistically kids are immune to this virus, and they are not super spreaders.


There is no way that is known. Kids haven't been in a school setting since March.

It is impossible to say what happens once kids are back together by the hundreds and thousands.


Incorrect. It's known
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-C ... S8RalpThKA


:lol:

Look at Bob citing the CDC.


Those numbers seem correct. Trust me, if kids were dying of this, the panic peddlers would let us know.


They can still transmit it to others however. As previously stated I know of 2 kids that I am certain died from this. There wasn't testing (kids still don't get tested) at the time and that's why they weren't labeled. A 3rd person early 20s also died around the same time who worked closely with them. He had sickle cell as an underlying condition.

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And this idea that it's some temporary four week thing is nonsense. The demanded masking is indefinite.
Agreed. And we are still hearing about how bad the SECOND WAVE and flu season is going to be, even though outside of a few urban hotspots, the first wave wasn't even close to as bad as the experts said it would be.

But still, listen to those same experts and question nothing! Wear your mask or the car will stopped and you will walk home!

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No, we do know. Kids are NOT locking down. They are going to stores, sports practices, tournaments. They are out and about. And living in households with super spreader adults. The data is there...they are immune to COVID-19. Even pediatricians agree.

So we have immune kids and masks said kids will wear as much as possible, plus masks teachers can wear..so again I ask..what is the sorry ass excuse for NOT educating our children?


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No, we do know. Kids are NOT locking down. They are going to stores, sports practices, tournaments. They are out and about. And living in households with super spreader adults. The data is there...they are immune to COVID-19. Even pediatricians agree.

So we have immune kids and masks said kids will wear as much as possible, plus masks teachers can wear..so again I ask..what is the sorry ass excuse for NOT educating our children?


You're wrong.

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I still haven't gotten JORR's point about masks. Everything else, HELL YES
I thought JORR was posting a lot of doom and gloom back in March. Almost more than anybody else here. But now if you look back at his posts, except for maybe a few of the most hysterical #RESIST ones, he's been one of the most consistent and accurate regulars on here since then.


About what? He claimed that people were "locked down" when they quite obviously were not. Oh I guess you believed that they were since you were unable to "Tee Time At Bernies"

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No, we do know. Kids are NOT locking down. They are going to stores, sports practices, tournaments. They are out and about. And living in households with super spreader adults. The data is there...they are immune to COVID-19. Even pediatricians agree.

So we have immune kids and masks said kids will wear as much as possible, plus masks teachers can wear..so again I ask..what is the sorry ass excuse for NOT educating our children?


You're wrong.


I'm simply citing the data. You don't agree with it.


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No, we do know. Kids are NOT locking down. They are going to stores, sports practices, tournaments. They are out and about. And living in households with super spreader adults. The data is there...they are immune to COVID-19. Even pediatricians agree.

So we have immune kids and masks said kids will wear as much as possible, plus masks teachers can wear..so again I ask..what is the sorry ass excuse for NOT educating our children?


You're wrong.


I'm simply citing the data. You don't agree with it.


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If I recall correctly, the bit was IF you can't stay 6 feet from a person, masks are required. So theoretically, you can help that old lady if you have masks on.
I don't disagree. But the fact that I actually touched a box of pasta that she wants to buy may scare her into not actually buying it anymore! Some (not all) people were wiping down groceries and leaving Amazon deliveries in the garage because the box MIGHT have germs on it. This wasn't even a thought in the craziest person's mind back in January.

I agree with all that. I still haven't gotten JORR's point about masks. Everything else, HELL YES



You really don't think a masked society is a degraded society? And this idea that it's some temporary four week thing is nonsense. The demanded masking is indefinite.

It's not optimal but it's dead fucking last on my list of degraded societal issues. They are strangers anyway. So now I don't see the stranger's mouth and that's a big problem?


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We were a powder keg and he was the spark. If it hadn't been him, it would have been another black guy the cops murdered.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
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No, we do know. Kids are NOT locking down. They are going to stores, sports practices, tournaments. They are out and about. And living in households with super spreader adults. The data is there...they are immune to COVID-19. Even pediatricians agree.

So we have immune kids and masks said kids will wear as much as possible, plus masks teachers can wear..so again I ask..what is the sorry ass excuse for NOT educating our children?


You're wrong.


I'm simply citing the data. You don't agree with it.


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He’s pretty close to right...

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No, we do know. Kids are NOT locking down. They are going to stores, sports practices, tournaments. They are out and about. And living in households with super spreader adults. The data is there...they are immune to COVID-19. Even pediatricians agree.

So we have immune kids and masks said kids will wear as much as possible, plus masks teachers can wear..so again I ask..what is the sorry ass excuse for NOT educating our children?


Reading is a skill Bob. My kids (those that you lyingly keep claiming aren't being educated) will be at home anyway.

I teach a college course filled with upperclassmen. You know what else CB. The entirety of the curriculum that I instruct is online anyway. Everything. The same ELearning that everyone keeps bitching and moaning constitutes the entirety of the Course. In fact City Colleges of Chicago instructs us to teach the class by use of online materials solely.

I hate it because I prefer to use my own supplementals but if I include my own materials then they won't sign off on the syllabus.


You can social distance currently if you are a child or an adult. . You also will be outdoors for the most part. When school starts back all of that stops.

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No, we do know. Kids are NOT locking down. They are going to stores, sports practices, tournaments. They are out and about. And living in households with super spreader adults. The data is there...they are immune to COVID-19. Even pediatricians agree.

So we have immune kids and masks said kids will wear as much as possible, plus masks teachers can wear..so again I ask..what is the sorry ass excuse for NOT educating our children?


You're wrong.


I'm simply citing the data. You don't agree with it.


(((data)))


He’s pretty close to right...

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In the insurance industry, that is statistically zero. Why do you think you can still purchase youth sports insurance? Rates haven't gone through the roof. The dudes that run the #'s know how low risk this virus is.


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No, we do know. Kids are NOT locking down. They are going to stores, sports practices, tournaments. They are out and about. And living in households with super spreader adults. The data is there...they are immune to COVID-19. Even pediatricians agree.

So we have immune kids and masks said kids will wear as much as possible, plus masks teachers can wear..so again I ask..what is the sorry ass excuse for NOT educating our children?


Reading is a skill Bob. My kids (those that you lyingly keep claiming aren't being educated) will be at home anyway.

I teach a college course filled with upperclassmen. You know what else CB. The entirety of the curriculum that I instruct is online anyway. Everything. The same ELearning that everyone keeps bitching and moaning constitutes the entirety of the Course. In fact City Colleges of Chicago instructs us to teach the class by use of online materials solely.

You can social distance currently if you are a child. You also will be outdoors for the most part. When school starts back all of that stops.


Once you get to HS and above, online-learning has value. It's worthless K-8 though.


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