LTG doing what LTG does. Lying and moving the goalposts to further his own bullshit agenda.

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From right here in this thread. Learn a bit before you try and talk shit.

Joe i think you said it weeks ago in one of these threads. Masks are being treated as a talisman, something to cling to to make you feel like you are on the "right team". "Look at me, I have my mask, I'm with you through these challenging times" instead of asking why we are doing it.

Why are perfectly healthy people in perfectly healthy communities walking around like this? My kids are being threatened with no school for no reason, but if we look at Facebook and many of our local friends have bought in completely to the danger, even though our community and county and region are basically untouched. We all walk around our stores masked up avoiding our neighbors and friends out of fear in an area that has proven in the last 6 months to have not been affected.

People are wearing masks to prevent the spread of COVID-19.


"Healthy" people can be asymptomatic. No symptoms but are still carriers. Healthy people are wearing masks to be courteous to their fellow neighbor. Rather than possibly infect their fellow American they wear a mask in settings where they are in large groups and cannot social distance.

Yes, I think I heard all that somewhere. I feel neither convinced that the spread of Covid-19 is being curtailed by masks and I certainly don't feel like my wearing a mask is giving other mask-wearing citizens an extra layer of security either, especially in my neck of the woods. I'll keep playing along in the name of SCIENCE! One thing I do approve of is social distancing at the store. That is a new habit that I hope catches on from now on.

It sure seems like that, doesn't it?

I think it's always good to look at historic examples. There were similar arguments regarding masking during the Spanish flu outbreak. Obviously, masking eventually went away. But there wasn't the same kind of safety culture in 1918 as what we have now. There may be some people who don't mind living in a masked society forever.

But I think the majority of maskers believe this is some temporary state and things will eventually go back to normal, not some "new normal" dystopia but the way they have lived their entire lives. They don't see that every day we live this way it becomes more and more difficult to go back.

The middle class was reeling prior to the pandemic. Now it's being absolutely wiped out. You could argue, as Nardi does, that the masks play little role in what's occurring. But I am convinced that the masks are the avatar of the "new normal" that is being imposed on us.

I think mandatory temp checks are next

nope

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

For workplaces and group gatherings it absolutely will.

Schools as well.

So the history tells us masks will go away but we think maybe it will be different this time because of the culture?

I think wide spread mask wearing will go away. There will be people who keep doing it but not the majority or any significant number.

Just my guess, none of us know.

shitting up the board like you all have been since March. Grow the fuck up.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

What i really worry about is a real killer pandemic actually happening. Our trust has been so abused by this painful and unnecessary dress rehearsal that the reaction time needed to combat a real threat could be dulled, although a threat that doesn't target such an easily identifiable target audience as this should be easier to spot in the future. Meanwhile we better close the schools and play along some more.

Exactly what in the world have you learned in the last five months except to whine about things that effect your personal interests? First it understandably was the lack of resources for your wife in health care, then it devolved into a clueless cry for a haircut and indoor meal. Then for a completely tone deaf and self centered baby move, it was being denied the ability to go shoot 110. And hiding behind a ridiculously vapid reach for the employment and environmental benefits of a really stupid waste of time and money.

Maybe it's time you and your coterie of little buddies learned something, instead of shitting up the board like you all have been since March. Grow the fuck up.

i think much was and will still be learned from this fiasco. ppe stockpiles will be plentiful and aggressive early travel restrictions will be viewed as reasonable by even the most liberal minds the next time it happens. better overall response plans will be developed too.

i think those are a couple very reasonable responses. I think nursing homes and assisted care facilities learned a lot that can be implemented quicker and more effectively next time, and hospitals as well. I think the rash decisions to shut down businesses was a disaster that will linger for a long time. The false sense of security people seem to get out of mask wearing and demanding everyone else play along so they feel safer makes me more sad than angry.

Exactly what in the world have you learned in the last five months except to whine about things that effect your personal interests?

You're sad people are using a simple tool to stop the spread of a contagious virus?

You're sad people are using a simple tool to stop the spread of a contagious virus?

It is really about living in a free society. If everyone is so concerned about the health of others, let’s add some other very important things to the list:

-Everyone drives the speed limit, nothing more. Higher speeds especially with folks driving at different speeds is very dangerous. I am sure you recognize that driving is a major cause of death in this country.
-Everyone washes his/her hands in the bathroom. We need an enforcement mechanism for this.
-Ban smoking. I mean cancer....second hand smoke etc.
-No driving even after one sip of alcohol.

That’s just a start. I am sure you agree with all these pressing issues to reduce risk in our society.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

There seems to be hard evidence masks work cutting down the spread of the virus. Varying by the type of mask. Would you allow your dental hygienist, or dentist to work on your teeth without wearing a mask? Now, or even before covid-19?

It is really about living in a free society. If everyone is so concerned about the health of others, let’s add some other very important things to the list:

-Everyone drives the speed limit, nothing more. Higher speeds especially with folks driving at different speeds is very dangerous. I am sure you recognize that driving is a major cause of death in this country.
-Everyone washes his/her hands in the bathroom. We need an enforcement mechanism for this.
-Ban smoking. I mean cancer....second hand smoke etc.
-No driving even after one sip of alcohol.

That’s just a start. I am sure you agree with all these pressing issues to reduce risk in our society.

It is really about living in a free society. If everyone is so concerned about the health of others, let’s add some other very important things to the list:

-Everyone drives the speed limit, nothing more. Higher speeds especially with folks driving at different speeds is very dangerous. I am sure you recognize that driving is a major cause of death in this country.
-Everyone washes his/her hands in the bathroom. We need an enforcement mechanism for this.
-Ban smoking. I mean cancer....second hand smoke etc.
-No driving even after one sip of alcohol.

That’s just a start. I am sure you agree with all these pressing issues to reduce risk in our society.

-Mandatory exercise
-Caloric monitors that force reject if you exceed daily intake

America approves