don't even get started on health.

There are people walking around with covid unknowingly because it's asymptomatic, though, right?


I don't think that is imagined

hey, if you just dont wear a mask the economy will go back to normal - nardi*, jorr*.
*by advocating for not wearing masks we at the same time take no responsibility for what happens COVID death/hospitalization-wise due to our decision

we consume more sugar and synthetics than any other developed county in the world. its amazing our HC system even keeps our life expectancy where its at. But yeah, that one country that is 99% a singular race and nationality with more moose than people have universal healthcare. it has to work here too!

People aren't afraid to participate in the economy because of people who text and drive.

but doesn't today's science tell us that asymptomatic people aren't going to spread it? (todays not tomorrows)

And all the while pretending that he is concerned for the golf employees of the state and the income/:revenue that they generate. Of all the employees in the world to show empathy for he subjectively chooses those in a sport he loves to play yet he doesn't consider that to be all self serving.

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Nah that's a copout and fairly lame to be honest. He isn't the only one to suffer hardship. There have been others that have too and they handled it with dignity and class. Those are who I root for. Nothing about their personality changed and they didn't go out of their way to be shitheads to people.

He is doing his little Fraternization Frank board luminary thing again and he is depending on people like you to provide cover for his bullshit.

I rarely if ever engage his clown ass. Until he starts up with the bullshit. I could have taken cheap shots when he lost his job. I could have taken cheap shots when he whined like a little b**ch about not being able to golf. I could have taken cheap shots when he made an ass out of himself about Corona. I didn't. Now "here he comes spinning out of the turn" once again and unless I ignore him then I'm somehow "shitting up the board" again correct?

Well you know I'm not going to ignore him so he might want to find another slot.

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"covid is dangerous to your health even if you show no symptoms. '

How does a large percentage of the population read that and say "wow. Ok. I believe it".

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

it is exactly the reason every other country in the world has managed to kick this thing yet the USA hasn't. defiance to rules is not a uniquely American trait and people have flaunted social distancing and quarantine all over the world. you'll actually notice that Colorado, the only state in the USA that has an obesity rate somewhat commiserate with our European counterparts, really has never struggled much with this after the initial peak.

The latest (unless something new came out) is that the majority is spread by people with symptoms but those without can and do spread it in some cases.

I believe there is evidence and known cases of asymptomatic spread, dont think that is in doubt by anyone


It's not at all a gotcha or out of the ordinary that things change as we learn about the virus though.


I understand it's frustrating though.

Im just saying, that answering the question "why do healthy people have to wear them"

I have no symptoms from smoking cigaretttes.

Is it dangerous?

Whether covid is dangerous to asymptomatic cases is tbd but your logic here doesn't work

It's painfully obviously true, yet pro maskers freak out when you tell them their fat ass is why their respiratory system can't handle an invasion.

Anti maskers are different. They know they live unhealthy lives. They simply don't care.

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

No it's not. You'll probably live to 90 even though you smoke.

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

I have no problem wearing a mask. Fuck it.
I'm not about to attack people not wearing masks.
Do masks ultimately have a negative impact on society. Probably. A few months ago I thought I was gonna get mugged (or someone was gonna get shot) when a guy was approaching me in an empty part of the woodman parking lot (I park in the back on the side because I don't want shopping cart dings) wearing a hat, mask and sunglasses. Face completely obscured and i had a coulle hundred dollars worth of shit inwas loading up. Turns out he wanted directions.

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I think it's likely that asymptomatic people can be carriers of covid just like they can be for flu, but it's a much lower likelihood of spread because the viral load is smaller (otherwise, that person would probably have symptoms).

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It's painfully obviously true, yet pro maskers freak out when you tell them their fat ass is why their respiratory system can't handle an invasion.

if you aren't over thirty BMI it looks like corona virus poses about the same threat as the flu, and perhaps much less. this is just the broad unhealthiness of americans coming home to roost.

I don't know if it's BMI related (maybe generally), but for whatever reason, some people's immune systems have an adverse reaction to the covid virus. Their immune system overreacts and produces an extreme excess amount of t-cells, which ends up causing lung inflammation and ultimately pneumonia. That's the main reason kids are not affected (unless they have compromised their lungs with smoking/vaping etc)...their immune systems don't overreact, similar to why bats are able to be such prolific carriers of viruses. Their immune systems are suppressed and don't go into overdrive when it's not necessary.

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This entire virus and mask debate has really proven that we're nothing more than a nation of entitled brats. Men are leading by a mile.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

i'll play the "everyone must pretend this is the plague" game by wearing a mask needlessly at the store and at work, but when you start talking about shutting down schools full of healthy kids and terrorizing everyone into thinking kids must be quarantined from each other to protect the frightened masses, you have flown off the rails.

I'm not convinced that mask wearing has "no downside." And I'm not talking about the societal impact, which is also real. I'm referring to whether I'm actually increasing my risk of breathing in covid from a contaminated mask. Most of us are not wearing single use disposable masks, so everything we touch is being transferred to the mask and then placed against our faces for long periods of time. I think there's a very good chance that masks increase the chance of the wearer catching the virus, even as it might help preventing the spread to others.

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People feeling theyre entitled to tell me that Im somehow responsible for their health ? Agree 100%.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Agreed plus symptoms: coughing etc literally spread it

Im just trying to understand your position. Is it that there is some minimal risk but it's way overblown?

I'll take a ride on that train, no problem.

Yes, agreed...that's probably the biggest factor.

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Isn't there limitations as to how long that it lingers on clothing Materials though?

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Clothing seems to kill it (disrupt the sequence) relatively quickly, whereas hard surfaces seem to allow it to linger intact longer. Personally, I have become less careful touching door handles, escalator rails, etc. as this has gone on, probably from corona fatigue. I still wash hands, but my guess is I'm still picking up a lot of things that end up making their way to my mask.

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I am still interested in getting to the bottom of this. Jonathan Haidt talks about the safety generation. Those born before 1980 had unsupervised play as kids. It is quite stark what I was doing as a kid and what kids do today. Maybe you're right about masks, maybe your wrong, but in general I absolutely agree with you that we have a giant swath of Americans who don't give two shits about freedom. That are constantly supervising as they had been supervised. All the safe spacing and trigger warnings come directly from their overly supervised upbringing.

my position is that the reaction to the realistic danger to most of society has been greatly overblown and that closing schools as some kind of preventative measure is a step too far.

Literally the headline on CNN right now, a woman dies of Coronvirus...she was fucking 92!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/21/us/anna- ... index.html

Are they for real?