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Are you really just going to dismiss what should be the most important story in recent history as "one thing the media has reported that was untrue"? The media has been at war with the elected president since before he took office. I'm not going to apologize for refusing to just swallow everything they promote.


You're swallowing whatever lie the president tells you to believe so you wouldn't exactly have much time.

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Are you really just going to dismiss what should be the most important story in recent history as "one thing the media has reported that was untrue"? The media has been at war with the elected president since before he took office. I'm not going to apologize for refusing to just swallow everything they promote.

And I'm not going to answer for a bullshit story I never bought into or helped propagate. I'm sorry your gotcha question didn't work.

And this still has nothing to do with this thread.



But you're buying into what might be a new bullshit story right now that is being disseminated by the same people.

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Are you really just going to dismiss what should be the most important story in recent history as "one thing the media has reported that was untrue"? The media has been at war with the elected president since before he took office. I'm not going to apologize for refusing to just swallow everything they promote.


You're swallowing whatever lie the president tells you to believe so you wouldn't exactly have much time.



Nope.

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Are you really just going to dismiss what should be the most important story in recent history as "one thing the media has reported that was untrue"? The media has been at war with the elected president since before he took office. I'm not going to apologize for refusing to just swallow everything they promote.

And I'm not going to answer for a bullshit story I never bought into or helped propagate. I'm sorry your gotcha question didn't work.

And this still has nothing to do with this thread.



But you're buying into what might be a new bullshit story right now that is being disseminated by the same people.

Ok well now I am going to need you to post some evidence supporting the fact that Mark Pettibone disseminated the Russian Collusion story. Cuz that's news you apparently have that nobody else in the world has.

This is the bullshit I'm talking about by the way.

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A few 100 people trying to bring down a statue and gang violence are exactly like the secession of 11 states.

Secret federal police aren't bad when Trump sends them.

Trump is sending 150 secret police because he really cares about the citizens of Chicago.

Christopher Steele said he made up the entire dossier for Hillary.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Say four unrelated stupid things, and then add a bunch of lols. That's deep thinking critical analysis. There are going to be 100 murders in Chicago this month. There have been 50 straight days of rioting in Portland. Yet, the only thing people have to say is Trump bad like the past two months of unprecedented violence and lawlessness aren't dangerous and a prelude so something worse if some order is not restored.

150 secret police officers hassling gutter punks and pink hats won't make Chicago safer.


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Are you following the thread?


Yes, as always, whenever someone criticizes Trump you bring up Hillary. We follow it pretty well.



The entire Trump presidency has been informed/crippled by the malfeasance of the previous administration and their collaboration with elite media. I'm not sure why you don't want to acknowledge that obvious fact.

And I'm not sure why you don't want to acknowledge the obvious fact you're blinded by Hillary Derangement Syndrome, but here we are.


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FavreFan wrote:
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Are you really just going to dismiss what should be the most important story in recent history as "one thing the media has reported that was untrue"? The media has been at war with the elected president since before he took office. I'm not going to apologize for refusing to just swallow everything they promote.

And I'm not going to answer for a bullshit story I never bought into or helped propagate. I'm sorry your gotcha question didn't work.

And this still has nothing to do with this thread.



But you're buying into what might be a new bullshit story right now that is being disseminated by the same people.

Ok well now I am going to need you to post some evidence supporting the fact that Mark Pettibone disseminated the Russian Collusion story. Cuz that's news you apparently have that nobody else in the world has.

This is the bullshit I'm talking about by the way.



Are you vouching for the veracity of some guy you've never met?

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The governors are refusing to use their National Guard.

Then perhaps it is you, not I, who has heard fake news about what is happening there and the Governors have decided it doesn't meet the threshold of bringing in the troops.

None of this has anything to do with the original point that nobody should be supporting unidentified "agents" in unmarked vans snatching folks off the street without Miranda rights. This should not be controversial, but of course you found a way to disagree with it :lol:



I just don't think it's happening the way you claim it is.

I get it man. It's a lot easier to just claim you're skeptical and say everything the other guy is saying is bullshit. It's what we do now.



Were you certain that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to influence the election?

No. I don't remember commenting on that much outside of possibly making some piss tape jokes. I found all that shit extremely boring.

But this is how it's going to be now, huh? One thing a lot of the media reported wasn't true so I guess nothing is true. Iraq didn't have WMDs so that must mean Bill Cosby didn't rape anybody. Should make arguing on this message board a lot quicker in the future, just tell the other guy what he's saying is bullshit and boom, discussion over.


This hasn't worked in the nearly 16 years I've been here.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Are you really just going to dismiss what should be the most important story in recent history as "one thing the media has reported that was untrue"? The media has been at war with the elected president since before he took office. I'm not going to apologize for refusing to just swallow everything they promote.


It's not "The Media" that you have a problem with Jorr. Its left wing or liberal media that you have a problem with. Right Wing media is perfectly acceptable to you. You don't think that this is rather partisan on your part?

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KDdidit wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
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Are you following the thread?


Yes, as always, whenever someone criticizes Trump you bring up Hillary. We follow it pretty well.



The entire Trump presidency has been informed/crippled by the malfeasance of the previous administration and their collaboration with elite media. I'm not sure why you don't want to acknowledge that obvious fact.

And I'm not sure why you don't want to acknowledge the obvious fact you're blinded by Hillary Derangement Syndrome, but here we are.


I don't think it's deranged to be upset that a presidential candidate colluded with foreigners, lost anyway, and then refused to accept the results. I remember a lot of people being so "deranged" when they thought it was Trump thst did/ was going to do those things.

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Are you really just going to dismiss what should be the most important story in recent history as "one thing the media has reported that was untrue"? The media has been at war with the elected president since before he took office. I'm not going to apologize for refusing to just swallow everything they promote.


It's not "The Media" that you have a problem with Jorr. Its left wing or liberal media that you have a problem with. Right Wing media is perfectly acceptable to you. You don't think that this is rather partisan on your part?


I don't consider the legacy media particularly Left Wing.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Are you following the thread?


Yes, as always, whenever someone criticizes Trump you bring up Hillary. We follow it pretty well.



The entire Trump presidency has been informed/crippled by the malfeasance of the previous administration and their collaboration with elite media. I'm not sure why you don't want to acknowledge that obvious fact.

And I'm not sure why you don't want to acknowledge the obvious fact you're blinded by Hillary Derangement Syndrome, but here we are.


I don't think it's deranged to be upset that a presidential candidate colluded with foreigners, lost anyway, and then refused to accept the results. I remember a lot of people being so "deranged" when they thought it was Trump thst did/ was going to do those things.

Hillary, Russia and the media are connected to Trump sending secret police to cities across the US how?


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Are you really just going to dismiss what should be the most important story in recent history as "one thing the media has reported that was untrue"? The media has been at war with the elected president since before he took office. I'm not going to apologize for refusing to just swallow everything they promote.

And I'm not going to answer for a bullshit story I never bought into or helped propagate. I'm sorry your gotcha question didn't work.

And this still has nothing to do with this thread.



But you're buying into what might be a new bullshit story right now that is being disseminated by the same people.

Ok well now I am going to need you to post some evidence supporting the fact that Mark Pettibone disseminated the Russian Collusion story. Cuz that's news you apparently have that nobody else in the world has.

This is the bullshit I'm talking about by the way.

Are you vouching for the veracity of some guy you've never met?

Are you just going to post this same variation of post on every example I provide to you? Because at some point it's not worth engaging with you when you just blatantly tell me that everything I post is untrue bullshit.

I guess we can just do this from now on though. I'll post something and you can call it bullshit and whenever you post anything I'll just say it's bullshit and we can continue going on like that. Sounds fun and productive!

Or you could just admit that everything we know right now would lead us to believe that federal agents in unmarked vans and unidentified gear kidnapped people off the streets before Mirandizing them. But you're not going to admit it, you're just going to keep engaging in this whataboutism bullshit, deflecting any and all criticism of the Trump administration, while simulataneously treating the rest of us like we're morons and you're the only objective one.

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Am I the only one who appreciates the irony of those who call people who opposed the Feds coming into their states to enforce the rule of law back in the 1860s "traitors" getting so furious over Feds coming into their states to enforce the rule of law in 2020?

Probably the only one who doesn't live in the former Confederacy.

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Kirkwood wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Are you following the thread?


Yes, as always, whenever someone criticizes Trump you bring up Hillary. We follow it pretty well.



The entire Trump presidency has been informed/crippled by the malfeasance of the previous administration and their collaboration with elite media. I'm not sure why you don't want to acknowledge that obvious fact.

And I'm not sure why you don't want to acknowledge the obvious fact you're blinded by Hillary Derangement Syndrome, but here we are.


I don't think it's deranged to be upset that a presidential candidate colluded with foreigners, lost anyway, and then refused to accept the results. I remember a lot of people being so "deranged" when they thought it was Trump thst did/ was going to do those things.

Hillary, Russia and the media relate are connected to Trump sending secret police to cities across the US how?



Are you following the thread? How do you know Trump is sending "secret police" to cities across the US? The same way you "knew" Trump was a Russian agent.

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No. I don't remember commenting on that much outside of possibly making some piss tape jokes. I found all that shit extremely boring.

But this is how it's going to be now, huh? One thing a lot of the media reported wasn't true so I guess nothing is true. Iraq didn't have WMDs so that must mean Bill Cosby didn't rape anybody. Should make arguing on this message board a lot quicker in the future, just tell the other guy what he's saying is bullshit and boom, discussion over.


This hasn't worked in the nearly 16 years I've been here.

Not sure what else to do with JORR. This is the equivalent of me telling him grass is green and him telling me that's bullshit because he heard someone wrongly say grass is purple one time.

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Am I the only one who appreciates the irony of those who call people who opposed the Feds coming into their states to enforce the rule of law back in the 1860s "traitors" getting so furious over Feds coming into their states to enforce the rule of law in 2020?

Probably the only one who doesn't live in the former Confederacy.


:lol: Nice.

But we don't get to defend states' rights only when it suits our purposes.

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Are you following the thread? How do you know Trump is sending "secret police" to cities across the US? The same way you "knew" Trump was a Russian agent.

I ask again, was Mark Pettibone involved in convincing the US Trump was a Russian agent?

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Am I the only one who appreciates the irony of those who call people who opposed the Feds coming into their states to enforce the rule of law back in the 1860s "traitors" getting so furious over Feds coming into their states to enforce the rule of law in 2020?

Probably the only one who doesn't live in the former Confederacy.


:lol: Nice.

But we don't get to defend states' rights only when it suits our purposes.

Many of us don't.

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Patches clearly visible on uniforms. Another example of leftist fake news

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A few 100 people trying to bring down a statue and gang violence are exactly like the secession of 11 states.

Secret federal police aren't bad when Trump sends them.

Trump is sending 150 secret police because he really cares about the citizens of Chicago.

Christopher Steele said he made up the entire dossier for Hillary.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Not exactly but pretty damn close. He admitted it was unverified information. He was hired by the Clinton campaign lawers. All Jorr did was add 1+1.


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Are you following the thread? How do you know Trump is sending "secret police" to cities across the US? The same way you "knew" Trump was a Russian agent.

I'm not following the thread. Hence why I asked. Can you connect for the class how Hillary and Russia are involved in Trump's deployment of secret police against American citizens?


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A few 100 people trying to bring down a statue and gang violence are exactly like the secession of 11 states.

Secret federal police aren't bad when Trump sends them.

Trump is sending 150 secret police because he really cares about the citizens of Chicago.

Christopher Steele said he made up the entire dossier for Hillary.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Not exactly but pretty damn close. He admitted it was unverified information. He was hired by the Clinton campaign lawers. All Jorr did was add 1+1.


Where did you read that? IIRC only the pissing allegation was unverified.

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Am I the only one who appreciates the irony of those who call people who opposed the Feds coming into their states to enforce the rule of law back in the 1860s "traitors" getting so furious over Feds coming into their states to enforce the rule of law in 2020?

Probably the only one who doesn't live in the former Confederacy.


:lol: Nice.

But we don't get to defend states' rights only when it suits our purposes.

Many of us don't.


Either you believe federal law enforcement is legitimate or you don't. Do you believe it isn't? Or is your major complaint that they weren't "properly badged"? If it's the latter I'm not going to argue about it. I don't know all the law and I don't know if these guys are acting as police. I'm not sure if you do either. Then it comes back to whether the federal government has appropriate authority to put down a violent insurrection. And it's difficult to claim this is anything else when you have specific groups seizing public streets and preventing taxpayers/citizens access.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Am I the only one who appreciates the irony of those who call people who opposed the Feds coming into their states to enforce the rule of law back in the 1860s "traitors" getting so furious over Feds coming into their states to enforce the rule of law in 2020?

Probably the only one who doesn't live in the former Confederacy.


:lol: Nice.

But we don't get to defend states' rights only when it suits our purposes.

Many of us don't.


Either you believe federal law enforcement is legitimate or you don't. Do you believe it isn't? Or is your major complaint that they weren't "properly badged"? If it's the latter I'm not going to argue about it. I don't know all the law and I don't know if these guys are acting as police. I'm not sure if you do either. Then it comes back to whether the federal government has appropriate authority to put down a violent insurrection. And it's difficult to claim this is anything else when you have specific groups seizing public streets and preventing taxpayers/citizens access.

It's not difficult at all to claim this is without a doubt something else entirely.

What was Mark Pettibone's act of violent insurrection? Can you tell me? Because the secret police that detained him unlawfully can't tell me either. That's a problem. And you know it's a problem so your only recourse to still deflect is to say it's bullshit because another major media story was bullshit.

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Are you following the thread? How do you know Trump is sending "secret police" to cities across the US? The same way you "knew" Trump was a Russian agent.

I'm not following the thread. Hence why I asked. Can you connect for the class how Hillary and Russia are involved in Trump's deployment of secret police against American citizens?


Well, if you were following it I wouldn't need to explain.

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A few 100 people trying to bring down a statue and gang violence are exactly like the secession of 11 states.

Secret federal police aren't bad when Trump sends them.

Trump is sending 150 secret police because he really cares about the citizens of Chicago.

Christopher Steele said he made up the entire dossier for Hillary.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Not exactly but pretty damn close. He admitted it was unverified information. He was hired by the Clinton campaign lawers. All Jorr did was add 1+1.


Where did you read that? IIRC only the pissing allegation was unverified.

He used the fucking internet for the goddam thing.


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Are you following the thread? How do you know Trump is sending "secret police" to cities across the US? The same way you "knew" Trump was a Russian agent.

I'm not following the thread. Hence why I asked. Can you connect for the class how Hillary and Russia are involved in Trump's deployment of secret police against American citizens?


Well, if you were following it I wouldn't need to explain.

To be fair it would be easier to follow if you didn't constantly change the subject.

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FavreFan wrote:
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Am I the only one who appreciates the irony of those who call people who opposed the Feds coming into their states to enforce the rule of law back in the 1860s "traitors" getting so furious over Feds coming into their states to enforce the rule of law in 2020?

Probably the only one who doesn't live in the former Confederacy.


:lol: Nice.

But we don't get to defend states' rights only when it suits our purposes.

Many of us don't.


Either you believe federal law enforcement is legitimate or you don't. Do you believe it isn't? Or is your major complaint that they weren't "properly badged"? If it's the latter I'm not going to argue about it. I don't know all the law and I don't know if these guys are acting as police. I'm not sure if you do either. Then it comes back to whether the federal government has appropriate authority to put down a violent insurrection. And it's difficult to claim this is anything else when you have specific groups seizing public streets and preventing taxpayers/citizens access.

It's not difficult at all to claim this is without a doubt something else entirely.

What was Mark Pettibone's act of violent insurrection? Can you tell me? Because the secret police that detained him unlawfully can't tell me either. That's a problem. And you know it's a problem so your only recourse to still deflect is to say it's bullshit because another major media story was bullshit.


I don't really know anything about the guy you keep referencing except that he has filed a complaint.

I also don't know how "secret" the secret police are if I'm reading about them on CFMB.

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