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Jaw Breaker

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:10 pm

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What luck...swung at ball four

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whistler

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:12 pm

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timmyholton wrote:

im at the truck stop watching the game

nice!

the old-fashioned way!

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HawaiiYou

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:13 pm

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W

fucking shit bullpen pulls it out.

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DAC

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:15 pm

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Well that was fun. I ditched this game and came back in the 9th.

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whistler

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:17 pm

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phew.

That woulda been embarrassin'.

Kimbrel and Jeffress are not gonna get it done.

I kept saying it last year, the Reds are really something else. Theyre like the modern day Phillies of the 80s. They somehow make games really wild with their hitting.

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whistler

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:17 pm

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DAC wrote:

Well that was fun. I ditched this game and came back in the 9th.

me too. Checked out after 6 when it was 7-1. Started tuning back in when I heard Len say it was 8-5.

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Beardown

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:18 pm

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That was weird.

But whatever, they're 3-1.

That's all that matters in this 60 game season. Just get them how you can get them.

But they'll have to find another closer eventually.

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Hussra

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:22 pm

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conns7901

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:23 pm

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Kimbrel can go hang out with Descalso. That was pathetic.

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IMU

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:26 pm

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Kimbrel needs to earn the closer spot back. Give the chances to Wick, Ryan or Tepera for now. Or even Rex Brothers if he is healthy.

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RFDC

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:29 pm

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IMU wrote:

Kimbrel needs to earn the closer spot back. Give the chances to Wick, Ryan or Tepera for now. Or even Rex Brothers if he is healthy.

What about Jefferess?

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Beardown

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:33 pm

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RFDC wrote:

IMU wrote:

Kimbrel needs to earn the closer spot back. Give the chances to Wick, Ryan or Tepera for now. Or even Rex Brothers if he is healthy.

What about Jefferess?

He got it done. But he didn't look to good either. Walked in a run. Almost hit Vato. And Vato hit it hard for the final out.

It's clear to me the Cubs will make the 8 team playoffs, though. Even with the shitty bullpen.

They'll be right there for being division champs. But the playoffs are a lock in my eyes.

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HawaiiYou

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:35 pm

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IMU wrote:

Rex Brothers.

I think I bought a couch from them back in ‘87.

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RFDC

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:35 pm

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Beardown wrote:

RFDC wrote:

IMU wrote:

Kimbrel needs to earn the closer spot back. Give the chances to Wick, Ryan or Tepera for now. Or even Rex Brothers if he is healthy.

What about Jefferess?

Jefferess came in with a 1 run lead. He did not walk in a run.

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Beardown

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:40 pm

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RFDC wrote:

Beardown wrote:

RFDC wrote:

IMU wrote:

Kimbrel needs to earn the closer spot back. Give the chances to Wick, Ryan or Tepera for now. Or even Rex Brothers if he is healthy.

What about Jefferess?

Jefferess came in with a 1 run lead. He did not walk in a run.

You're right.

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IMU

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:46 am

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RFDC wrote:

IMU wrote:

Kimbrel needs to earn the closer spot back. Give the chances to Wick, Ryan or Tepera for now. Or even Rex Brothers if he is healthy.

What about Jefferess?

I'm not anticipating great things from him this year. And while the Cubs did win, he had no command facing Ervin and Votto tattooed the lineout to Almora.

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:57 am

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wow, that tough NL Central

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:05 am

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good dolphin wrote:

wow, that tough NL Central

Brewers and Reds are solid, Cubs are just too much for them.

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Spiral Stairs

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:19 pm

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Hussra wrote:

What happened to him? Was stud whole career till he got here. I know his post seasons were bad but jeez.

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IMU

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:12 pm

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Deacon Blues wrote:

Hussra wrote:

What happened to him? Was stud whole career till he got here. I know his post seasons were bad but jeez.

Batters figured out that if you keep the bat on your shoulder, good things happen.

Many closers have wicked stuff but can't control their pitches. I don't know why more teams don't just go up there with no intention of swinging.

edit: Actually, looking at the numbers, his strike percentage is only slightly worse and batters still swing at pitches at about the same 47% clip. Contact percentage is slightly up. XBH percentage is way up.

He has lost 3 mph off his fastball in the last 2 years, and his curveball has less speed and less vertical break. Data via brooksbaseball.net

Every single thing you can look at has gotten worse. This isn't a fluke. He has lost his stuff and his command.

I bet he is trying to pitch more carefully or more precise since he noticed his stuff has declined, and it is getting him in trouble. He can no longer challenge major league hitters with a 95 mph 4-seamer and an 85 mph curve with minimal vertical break.

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Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:39 pm

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Tipping pitches?

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Caller Bob

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:40 pm

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Deacon Blues wrote:

Hussra wrote:

What happened to him? Was stud whole career till he got here. I know his post seasons were bad but jeez.

COVID-19

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badrogue17

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:50 pm

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Kimbrel was a move they had to take a flier on last year ( albeit an expensive one ) but he’s fucking done as a dominant closer. Shit , he was done his last year in Boston .

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Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:26 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

Deacon Blues wrote:

Hussra wrote:

What happened to him? Was stud whole career till he got here. I know his post seasons were bad but jeez.

COVID-19

If I would have posted your response you would have cried like the fucking baby you are wrong thread. You are pathetic.

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:38 pm

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badrogue17 wrote:

Kimbrel was a move they had to take a flier on last year ( albeit an expensive one ) but he’s fucking done as a dominant closer. Shit , he was done his last year in Boston .

Yea, I wanna say Chris Sale closing out the WS was partially due to lack of confidence in Kimbrel at that point.

Dont remember exactly but i know he had a rough post season

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Ron Wolfley

Post subject: Re: Cubs at Reds 7/27-7/30

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:36 pm