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 Post subject: Re: JLN
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:43 pm 
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I said he was a bigot, I said he posted "bigoted shit", and I said his banning was warranted. You're being completely unreasonable, and I'm done engaging with you on this topic because you seem hell-bent on constantly moving the goalposts, because now, what is it, I have to find me calling out a specific brand of bigotry from a specific set of posters? Nah, I'm good. Fuck you.


Claims to have supported the banning of America and Toxic
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What you've quoted here does not imply in any way that I thought America shouldn't have been banned. In fact the only words I've spoken about whether he should've been banned were unequivocally in support of the banning.
You can continue to lie about it if you want to, but that's the truth, and you know it.

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Again, there's a blatant disparity in how you allowed the alleged MANY who clamored for the ousting of Toxic and America to police the board, and how you told me to police the board. With me, your "support" (for lack of a better phrase) stopped short of using your powers to punish those who had doxxed Chas, you and Nas said as much specifically. But now, those alleged MANY can not only shame and ridicule the likes of Toxic and America for their actions on the board, but also co-opt your admin powers to get them punished.

If admin powers are up for auction, I'll throw in a bid. A nice, non-Kirkland brand scotch, perhaps?


There is always a smoking gun to be found somewhere
Where did I say that the saming and ridiculing of America and TM weren't warranted, or that their bans weren't warranted? Do you think this "smoking gun" says that? :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: JLN
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:57 pm 
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
I said he was a bigot, I said he posted "bigoted shit", and I said his banning was warranted. You're being completely unreasonable, and I'm done engaging with you on this topic because you seem hell-bent on constantly moving the goalposts, because now, what is it, I have to find me calling out a specific brand of bigotry from a specific set of posters? Nah, I'm good. Fuck you.


Claims to have supported the banning of America and Toxic
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
What you've quoted here does not imply in any way that I thought America shouldn't have been banned. [insta]In fact the only words I've spoken about whether he should've been banned were unequivocally in support of the banning[/insta].
You can continue to lie about it if you want to, but that's the truth, and you know it.

and yet:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Again, there's a blatant disparity in how you allowed the alleged MANY who clamored for the ousting of Toxic and America to police the board, and how you told me to police the board. With me, your "support" (for lack of a better phrase) stopped short of using your powers to punish those who had doxxed Chas, you and Nas said as much specifically. But now, those alleged MANY can not only shame and ridicule the likes of Toxic and America for their actions on the board, but also co-opt your admin powers to get them punished.

If admin powers are up for auction, I'll throw in a bid. A nice, non-Kirkland brand scotch, perhaps?


There is always a smoking gun to be found
somewhere[/quote]
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Where did I say that the saming and ridiculing of America and TM weren't warranted, or that their bans weren't warranted? Do you think this "smoking gun" says that? :lol:


It's in bold.print. You opposed their banning. Argue, lie whatever you like. Doesn't change anything. You will never admit the truth anyway. Everything that I said is:supported by your words. I'm not going back and forth about it but I will reference it whenever I feel the need to reference your own bigotry and support for bigots.

I know you to be a liar that will lie about anything so this little attempt at spin was already anticipated.

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 Post subject: Re: JLN
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:17 pm 
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It's in bold.print. You opposed their banning.
No, I said there was a disparity in how the powers-that-be policed the board. Nowhere did I say that the "policing" wasn't warranted. In fact, as I have pointed out to you, I have explicitly and unequivocally said they should have been banned. You're grasping at straws and it's hilarious.

Also, good lord, learn to clean up your quote usage if you're going to try to get cute with it.


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 Post subject: Re: JLN
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:50 pm 
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long time guy wrote:
It's in bold.print. You opposed their banning.

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
No, I said there was a disparity in how the powers-that-be policed the board. Nowhere did I say that the "policing" wasn't warranted. In fact, as I have pointed out to you, I have explicitly and unequivocally said they should have been banned. You're grasping at straws and it's hilarious.
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You claimed that they were allowed to "shame" and "ridicule" two bigots?

That statement alone illustrates that you had a problem with the treatment of them. If by no one else then by the other posters.


In the two succeeding statements you are caught lying again.

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In fact the only words I've spoken about whether he should've been banned were unequivocally in support of the banning

The aforementioned statement was a lie. You were never "unequivocally in support of the banning". If so why did it matter to you where the impetus behind it came from? Remember you "unequivocally supported" it?
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Again, there's a blatant disparity in how you allowed the alleged MANY who clamored for the ousting of Toxic and America to police the board, and how you told me to police the board. With me, your "support" (for lack of a better phrase) stopped short of using your powers to punish those who had doxxed Chas, you and Nas said as much specifically. But now, those alleged MANY can not only shame and ridicule the likes of Toxic and America for their actions on the board, but also co-opt your admin powers to get them punished.

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 Post subject: Re: JLN
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:00 pm 
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Why would the shaming and ridicule of two bigots appall you so much Litigation Notes?

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But now, those alleged MANY can not only shame and ridicule the likes of Toxic and America for their actions on the board

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 Post subject: Re: JLN
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:13 pm 
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Doesn't this talk about JLN belong in the cancelation thread? Mods.... fix it!


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 Post subject: Re: JLN
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:14 pm 
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Why would the shaming and ridicule of two bigots appall you so much Litigation Notes?

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But now, those alleged MANY can not only shame and ridicule the likes of Toxic and America for their actions on the board

It didn't appall me, I was appalled at how easily a board member got off for completely doxxing another member. I wanted a harsher punishment for the irreverent doxxing, not an easier punishment for the bigotry. That is why I highlighted the disparity.


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 Post subject: Re: JLN
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:30 pm 
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long time guy wrote:
Why would the shaming and ridicule of two bigots appall you so much Litigation Notes?


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But now, those alleged MANY can not only shame and ridicule the likes of Toxic and America for their actions on the board


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It didn't appall me,

Yet you used the word "allowed" to ridicule and shame this which clearly means that you believed that it was out of bounds.
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I was appalled at how easily a board member got off for completely doxxing another member.

Conveniently one that shares similar views as you and the other 2 regarding race.
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I wanted a harsher punishment for the irreverent doxxing, not an easier punishment for the bigotry. That is why I highlighted the disparity.


Using your logic there were numerous other times in which they "got off" as well only to continue to do the same thing. They were banned and "allowed" back and still continued to promote their racist beliefs. The poster in question was doxxed once and they were warned about it never to do it again.

Those 2 taunted and baited the mods with their bullshit (not that a likeminded fellow such as yourself would ever noticed) and then they were banned. There was no equivalency and if I or BMac were the 2 instead of those two is there any doubt that you would have been arguing as vociferously as you were? Not in my mind there isn't.

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 Post subject: Re: JLN
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:39 pm 
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Whether either of you are right or wrong, there’s no denying that you two are the biggest board-shitters here.

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 Post subject: Re: JLN
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:54 pm 
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Using your logic there were numerous other times in which they "got off" as well only to continue to do the same thing. They were banned and "allowed" back and still continued to promote their racist beliefs.


And then banned again, another banning I supported.

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The poster in question was doxxed once and they were warned about it never to do it again.


Yeah, that's a pretty light punishment considering the act. Doxxing can get someone killed.

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There was no equivalency and if I or BMac were the 2 instead of those two is there any doubt that you would have been arguing as vociferously as you were? Not in my mind there isn't.
This is just jibberish to me. What are you trying to ask? Would I have said that the punishment for doxxing another board member should be as harsh as the hypothetical punishment you and BMac received for being toxic assholes? Yes.


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 Post subject: Re: JLN
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:21 pm 
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Whether either of you are right or wrong, there’s no denying that you two are the biggest board-shitters here.

Have a good evening.


Preach!

Roger Sterling was cool because he was a pedantic and petty bitch. That's what I took away from mad man.

Also ltg won't stfu ever

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 Post subject: Re: JLN
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Minooka Meatball wrote:
Whether either of you are right or wrong, there’s no denying that you two are the biggest board-shitters here.

Have a good evening.


Preach!

Roger Sterling was cool because he was a pedantic and petty patriot. That's what I took away from mad man.

Also ltg won't stfu ever


Once I finally check out I sincerely hope that this place becomes the utopia that some think that it is destined to be.

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