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No one has to worry about old folks taking over downtown anymore.

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It's become LA hip to have land in big sky country. It definitely isn't covid/protest related. It has been happening for at least a decade, probably more. Sundance is 40+ years old.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Bozeman has been referred to as Bozangelos by people in Ag community out there for going on 15 years. There was a growing population when I moved there in 96 of out of staters from the Northeast and California as well. I was told it was more prevalent in Missoula and the Flathead valley. Jackson Hole in Wyoming and Sun Valley in Idaho have had that reputation since the late 80’s.

Sounds like this seasons storyline on "Yellowstone".

Those who refer to it as Bozangelos do not have fond feelings for that show. To be fair, they’re pretty pissy in general right now about just about everything. They’d fit in perfect.

I doubt that's the only reason. The attractions that made downtown hum are all closed at the moment. There's nothing to do but recreate in your backyard.

They really should somehow market getting mugged / beaten by black teens as a positive which will bring the tourists back in droves .

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Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

That seems unwise.

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You know better the motivations of people Deni$$ spoke to on why they don't want to move downtown than he does. Mass looting is no big deal. Muggings and shootings in the downtown are part of being Chicago tough. Wouldn't drive people away at all.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Read the post. I said there is likely more than just one reason. Never said the protests and crime wasn't a contributing factor.

I read the post. You are the one speculating on the reasons despite not being a party to the conversation. At least the Mayor finally said something after yesterday's shooting:



If you want to know about policing "disparities" you have your answer right there.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

No shit I'm speculating. Detective Ruffcorn over here.

The downside risks that should have been considered prior to locking down are now becoming more clear. Too late to turn back now.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

No more yuppie/hipster playground?

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"Downside risks" related to coronavirus. Sure that's the reason all of this is happening.

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It's a lot more than that. The dopes who accused others of wanting to kill grandma and sneered about "MUH ECONOMY" on social media are getting a cold dose of reality. If by "economy" they meant the stock market indexes, they were mistaken. That isn't the economy. And it's doing just fine in the lockdown. The rich are thriving while the poor people are headed to eviction court. But granny may still be alive so it's a victory. We can all sit among the ashes of society ducking bullets and toast "L'CHAIM!"

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

For a guy who calls everyone else "a damn clown" this is the clowniest thing ever posted in this forum. As if the crime rate skyrocketing by huge percentages has nothing to do with the purposeful crippling the economy. You damn clown.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

They were broke and unemployed long before Covid but the "well to do" never bothered to pay attention to it. There is much more involved than Corona. Trust me or not I don't much care but that guy wasn't killed on Oak Street because of coronavirus.

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The people that you are currently speaking about weren't part of the "economy" long before corona ever came along. Maybe you were simply too stupid to notice. If they were they they would have received their big fat unemployment checks the entire time. This should and would have precluded them from committing crimes don't you think? You damn clown.

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I don't know specifically whether that particular murder would have occurred or not, but that isn't the point.

If you're arguing that there is the possibility that this pandemic will force a more equitable allocation of resources, I agree. It has to play out. But so far, things don't look promising.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

You clearly have no idea what's happening. That probably qualifies you to run for president.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Yet you stupidly believe that you do apparently?

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It isn't. Its gang related. Like the vast majority of them are. Coronavirus shutdowns didn't create gang violence in Chicago.

These kids are so far removed from the political machinations of this city and country that it is scary. No one pays attention to it until there are "skyrocketing homicide rates" or murders in glitzy neighborhoods.

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Honest question not in bad faith from an outsider.

Why is Chicago setting records for murders and shootings?

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I was wondering the same thing. It has to be some combination of George Floyd, et al, the weakened economy caused by the rona shutdowns, and general political discourse that has emboldened people to loot amid a greater loss of trust in law enforcement.

I mean what else is causing our large cities to see such an increase in violence?

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Hawaii (fuck) You

The virus has affected everything. It's been a spark for protests and it's absolutely affected the way we are policing. If you actually believe the spiking crime rates and the pandemic policies are unrelated, I don't know what to tell you.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Depends on what you mean by "records". Monthly maybe but I don't think we are on pace to set a yearly record.

They are up because black people in this city are poor and unemployed. Particularly young black people. That occurred long before Covid. No one bothered to pay attention to it and now it is here and everyone acts as if just came out of nowhere. It didn't. This has been building for awhile.

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Still is in most areas you'd expect. Though Loop/River North definitely is different without office workers, tourists and business travelers.

If you think it is mostly due to Covid then I don't know what to tell you.

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Honestly, the media has paid a lot of attention to Chicago specific murders especially as they fell in NYC and LA. The Trib is always running articles on the problem.

It bothers me greatly what is going on in the city. Many of us care, and education has been a big interest of mine on these boards over the years, which I feel is the only realistic way to improve the lot of large numbers in the lower economic strata.

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Hawaii (fuck) You