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You know its not funny and its not a "win" for your side that people are losing their fucking minds living in this society that has no humanity to it at all.


How about this on the other side of things? I watched a masked woman in my supermarket today handle probably 60 different potatoes in a produce bin. Was this woman doing a correct thing in this so-called "pandemic" that we are supposed to be exerting so much caution with? Out of that 60 or so potatoes, this dingbat selected THREE out of the bin. But God help us if someone had the audacity to enter that supermarket without a mask on. :? :? :?

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You know its not funny and its not a "win" for your side that people are losing their fucking minds living in this society that has no humanity to it at all.


How about this on the other side of things? I watched a masked woman in my supermarket today handle probably 60 different potatoes in a produce bin. Was this woman doing a correct thing in this so-called "pandemic" that we are supposed to be exerting so much caution with? Out of that 60 or so potatoes, this dingbat selected THREE out of the bin. But God help us if someone had the audacity to enter that supermarket without a mask on. :? :? :?

Yeah, I hate that. Hell, I hated that BEFORE 2020.


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What’s disappointed me about the way this has been approached is it has been approached along a single axis, which, if you like, is a scientific one. Even within that context, you could argue that it’s too one-dimensional, so we’re not thinking about what’s happening with other infectious diseases or how many people are going to die of cancer.

That’s the axis of disease, but then there’s the socioeconomic axis, which has been ignored. But there’s a third, aesthetic axis, which is about how we want to live our lives. We are closing ourselves off not just to the disease, but to other aspects of being human.

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Antarctica wrote:
You know its not funny and its not a "win" for your side that people are losing their fucking minds living in this society that has no humanity to it at all.

It is funny when adults have temper tantrums. Its not justified in any way by some bullshit about a lack of humanity either.

All these videos are just entitled assholes taking out their way over the top angst on people who don't deserve it.

Its no different than that trans guy screamimg MAAM in that workers face that we all laughed at.

These people are ridiculous


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Antarctica wrote:
You know its not funny and its not a "win" for your side that people are losing their fucking minds living in this society that has no humanity to it at all.

It is funny when adults have temper tantrums. Its not justified in any way by some bullshit about a lack of humanity either.

All these videos are just entitled assholes taking out their way over the top angst on people who don't deserve it.

Its no different than that trans guy screamimg MAAM in that workers face that we all laughed at.

These people are ridiculous


Sure, but the point is that the obvious breakdown of society is a far worse consequence than something that amounts to a bad cold at worst for the vast majority of those who contract it.

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People are losing it and just because its middle aged white men losing doesn't mean there isn't a spectre hanging over all of American society.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Antarctica wrote:
You know its not funny and its not a "win" for your side that people are losing their fucking minds living in this society that has no humanity to it at all.

It is funny when adults have temper tantrums. Its not justified in any way by some bullshit about a lack of humanity either.

All these videos are just entitled assholes taking out their way over the top angst on people who don't deserve it.

Its no different than that trans guy screamimg MAAM in that workers face that we all laughed at.

These people are ridiculous


Sure, but the point is that the obvious breakdown of society is a far worse consequence than something that amounts to a bad cold at worst for the vast majority of those who contract it.


If our society breaks down because of this, this really is a nation of pussies.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Antarctica wrote:
You know its not funny and its not a "win" for your side that people are losing their fucking minds living in this society that has no humanity to it at all.

It is funny when adults have temper tantrums. Its not justified in any way by some bullshit about a lack of humanity either.

All these videos are just entitled assholes taking out their way over the top angst on people who don't deserve it.

Its no different than that trans guy screamimg MAAM in that workers face that we all laughed at.

These people are ridiculous


Sure, but the point is that the obvious breakdown of society is a far worse consequence than something that amounts to a bad cold at worst for the vast majority of those who contract it.

The breakdown of society was already happening. Covid sped it up. Masks specifically don't play a huge role, IMO.

The focus, IMO, should be on America's larger terrible response to this pandemic, not the things we are forced to keep doing because the failure of leadership


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That's hilarious that I guess neck gators are worse than no mask. So how long before the mask-holes start shaming you over wearing the wrong type of mask?


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That's hilarious that I guess neck gators are worse than no mask. So how long before the mask-holes start shaming you over wearing the wrong type of mask?


Oh it's already happening.

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The breakdown of society was already happening. Covid sped it up. Masks specifically don't play a huge role, IMO.

The focus, IMO, should be on America's larger terrible response to this pandemic, not the things we are forced to keep doing because the failure of leadership

"failure of leadership" :lol:

The country is forty percent obese. People keel over and die all the time because of their shitty lifestyle and there's nothing anyone can do about it. New York tried banning Mega Gulp's and people about lost their minds (and then the measure basically did nothing to change obesity rates).

People picked March 2020 to start giving a shit about the public health after nearly fifty years of wanton neglect. Now we look at the state of the average American, recoil in horror and think "wow! this looks like a failure in leadership!"

I'm not buying it. Nobody should be.


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rogers park bryan wrote:

The focus, IMO, should be on America's larger terrible response to this pandemic, not the things we are forced to keep doing because the failure of leadership


Yep, but the loudest voices in the room are all the idiots that put this shitty leadership in place. And too many of those same loudest voices shout down everyone who doesn't suck at whatever ideological teet they endorse. Personally, I hate the far left and the far right equally. I'm sick of all of them. As useless as I think Trump is, part of me wants him to watch those whiny fucks have another meltdown. But at the same time, if Biden wins, the Teabagger Party types will have themselves another meltdown, although it may be tempered because Biden is an old white guy like they are.

If the loudest voices in the room had any actual ability to self reflect, they'd realize how shitty they all really were.

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Antarctica wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
The breakdown of society was already happening. Covid sped it up. Masks specifically don't play a huge role, IMO.

The focus, IMO, should be on America's larger terrible response to this pandemic, not the things we are forced to keep doing because the failure of leadership

"failure of leadership" :lol:

The country is forty percent obese. People keel over and die all the time because of their shitty lifestyle and there's nothing anyone can do about it. New York tried banning Mega Gulp's and people about lost their minds (and then the measure basically did nothing to change obesity rates).

People picked March 2020 to start giving a shit about the public health after nearly fifty years of wanton neglect. Now we look at the state of the average American, recoil in horror and think "wow! this looks like a failure in leadership!"

I'm not buying it. Nobody should be.

You're right, the US response has been great.


Of course the unhealthy lifestyle of Americans doesnt help but pretending that is anywhere near the biggest reason we are leading the world in Covid everything is ridiculous

We are getting crushed because the response has been an uncoordinated mess on every level


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rogers park bryan wrote:

The focus, IMO, should be on America's larger terrible response to this pandemic, not the things we are forced to keep doing because the failure of leadership


Yep, but the loudest voices in the room are all the idiots that put this shitty leadership in place. And too many of those same loudest voices shout down everyone who doesn't suck at whatever ideological teet they endorse. Personally, I hate the far left and the far right equally. I'm sick of all of them. As useless as I think Trump is, part of me wants him to watch those whiny fucks have another meltdown. But at the same time, if Biden wins, the Teabagger Party types will have themselves another meltdown, although it may be tempered because Biden is an old white guy like they are.

If the loudest voices in the room had any actual ability to self reflect, they'd realize how shitty they all really were.


I'm down with this.

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Very true. The issue I take is with how much of a clusterfuck everything else has been.

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rogers park bryan wrote:

The focus, IMO, should be on America's larger terrible response to this pandemic, not the things we are forced to keep doing because the failure of leadership


Yep, but the loudest voices in the room are all the idiots that put this shitty leadership in place. And too many of those same loudest voices shout down everyone who doesn't suck at whatever ideological teet they endorse. Personally, I hate the far left and the far right equally. I'm sick of all of them. As useless as I think Trump is, part of me wants him to watch those whiny fucks have another meltdown. But at the same time, if Biden wins, the Teabagger Party types will have themselves another meltdown, although it may be tempered because Biden is an old white guy like they are.

If the loudest voices in the room had any actual ability to self reflect, they'd realize how shitty they all really were.


I'm down with this.


Just so you understand, I'm referring to shitty leadership from the National all the way down to the State level, right?

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sjboyd0137 wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:

The focus, IMO, should be on America's larger terrible response to this pandemic, not the things we are forced to keep doing because the failure of leadership


Yep, but the loudest voices in the room are all the idiots that put this shitty leadership in place. And too many of those same loudest voices shout down everyone who doesn't suck at whatever ideological teet they endorse. Personally, I hate the far left and the far right equally. I'm sick of all of them. As useless as I think Trump is, part of me wants him to watch those whiny fucks have another meltdown. But at the same time, if Biden wins, the Teabagger Party types will have themselves another meltdown, although it may be tempered because Biden is an old white guy like they are.

If the loudest voices in the room had any actual ability to self reflect, they'd realize how shitty they all really were.


I agree with you to a large extent but there was no louder voice than Cuomo and he seems to have gotten a handle on it.

Ideology aside Trump is an idiot and never should have been allowed near the White House. Its just sad that it took this incident to illustrate it.

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I agree with you to a large extent but there was no louder voice than Cuomo and he seems to have gotten a handle on it.

Ideology aside Trump is an idiot and never should have been allowed near the White House. Its just sad that it took this incident to illustrate it
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I completely agree with the part in bold. What's even worse are the dopes doubling down on him now.

I don't get the Cuomo thing, but I guess being the Mayor of the largest city in the country has its advantages.

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You're right, the US response has been great.


Of course the unhealthy lifestyle of Americans doesnt help but pretending that is anywhere near the biggest reason we are leading the world in Covid everything is ridiculous

We are getting crushed because the response has been an uncoordinated mess on every level

Its certainly better than China, who actually acted (and continues to act) in bad faith regarding all of their actions.

The American reaction has not been appreciably worse than that of Brazil or Russia. And that's kind of our company in the world now so it makes sense. You cant expect a country populated by Americans to be as high functioning as places like Singapore, Japan, Sweden, New Zealand etc.


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long time guy wrote:
I agree with you to a large extent but there was no louder voice than Cuomo and he seems to have gotten a handle on it.

Ideology aside Trump is an idiot and never should have been allowed near the White House. Its just sad that it took this incident to illustrate it
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I completely agree with the part in bold. What's even worse are the dopes doubling down on him now.

I don't get the Cuomo thing, but I guess being the Mayor of the largest city in the country has its advantages.

Cuomo is govenor of New York, deBlasio is mayor.


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sjboyd0137 wrote:
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I agree with you to a large extent but there was no louder voice than Cuomo and he seems to have gotten a handle on it.

Ideology aside Trump is an idiot and never should have been allowed near the White House. Its just sad that it took this incident to illustrate it
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I completely agree with the part in bold. What's even worse are the dopes doubling down on him now.

I don't get the Cuomo thing, but I guess being the Mayor of the largest city in the country has its advantages.

Cuomo is govenor of New York, deBlasio is mayor.


Cool...Yeah, I forgot.

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You guys just have misguided expectations born out of a sense of patriotism that should've expired a long time ago. America isn't what it used to be.


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Antarctica wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
The breakdown of society was already happening. Covid sped it up. Masks specifically don't play a huge role, IMO.

The focus, IMO, should be on America's larger terrible response to this pandemic, not the things we are forced to keep doing because the failure of leadership

"failure of leadership" :lol:

The country is forty percent obese. People keel over and die all the time because of their shitty lifestyle and there's nothing anyone can do about it. New York tried banning Mega Gulp's and people about lost their minds (and then the measure basically did nothing to change obesity rates).

People picked March 2020 to start giving a shit about the public health after nearly fifty years of wanton neglect. Now we look at the state of the average American, recoil in horror and think "wow! this looks like a failure in leadership!"

I'm not buying it. Nobody should be.

You're right, the US response has been great.


Of course the unhealthy lifestyle of Americans doesnt help but pretending that is anywhere near the biggest reason we are leading the world in Covid everything is ridiculous

We are getting crushed because the response has been an uncoordinated mess on every level

9th in the world. Belgium followed by UK are leading the world in everything COVID


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sjboyd0137 wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:

The focus, IMO, should be on America's larger terrible response to this pandemic, not the things we are forced to keep doing because the failure of leadership


Yep, but the loudest voices in the room are all the idiots that put this shitty leadership in place. And too many of those same loudest voices shout down everyone who doesn't suck at whatever ideological teet they endorse. Personally, I hate the far left and the far right equally. I'm sick of all of them. As useless as I think Trump is, part of me wants him to watch those whiny fucks have another meltdown. But at the same time, if Biden wins, the Teabagger Party types will have themselves another meltdown, although it may be tempered because Biden is an old white guy like they are.

If the loudest voices in the room had any actual ability to self reflect, they'd realize how shitty they all really were.


I agree with you to a large extent but there was no louder voice than Cuomo and he seems to have gotten a handle on it.

Ideology aside Trump is an idiot and never should have been allowed near the White House. Its just sad that it took this incident to illustrate it.

Because Corona blew through his population and there's less people to infect. He didn't get a handle on shit.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Antarctica wrote:
You know its not funny and its not a "win" for your side that people are losing their fucking minds living in this society that has no humanity to it at all.

It is funny when adults have temper tantrums. Its not justified in any way by some bullshit about a lack of humanity either.

All these videos are just entitled assholes taking out their way over the top angst on people who don't deserve it.

Its no different than that trans guy screamimg MAAM in that workers face that we all laughed at.

These people are ridiculous


Sure, but the point is that the obvious breakdown of society is a far worse consequence than something that amounts to a bad cold at worst for the vast majority of those who contract it.

The breakdown of society was already happening. Covid sped it up. Masks specifically don't play a huge role, IMO.

The focus, IMO, should be on America's larger terrible response to this pandemic, not the things we are forced to keep doing because the failure of leadership


I don't believe that's correct. Not that I'm saying we've had good leadership. We haven't and that's why society is breaking down and many people and cities will soon be going broke. But the idea that a virus can be "managed" when one never really has been, is based on what exactly?

The only virus that has ever been eradicated is smallpox. There's never even been a successful vaccine for a coronavirus. We're looking at this entirely the wrong way. The woman interviewed in the article I linked above isn't someone that can be dismissed as a crackpot or right-wing stooge or Fox contributor. She's as credentialed as Dr. Fauci.

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Alastair: It’s interesting that you mentioned folklore. In the West we have this idea that we want to eliminate disease – that there’s a heroic figure who intervenes and then resets the social order. In some parts of Asia there is a very different approach, it’s more about accommodating yourself to the natural world, and cultivating a more holistic view of how you live with disaster. Things like lockdown have their own folklore.

Yes, that seems to be much of the language of it. It’s semi-religious, actually.

As you say, I’m astonished at two things. One is the bellicose language used with respect to the virus, which does point to this desire to annihilate, which seems to me strange. Maybe it has something to do with coming from an eastern tradition, but I’d like to think it’s strange because we live with infectious diseases. We do accommodate infectious diseases into our social contract, really. We know that this is a threat we have to deal with.

The other interesting issue that I’ve suddenly realised with this particular threat, is that people are treating it like an external disaster, like a hurricane or a tsunami, as if you can batten down the hatches and it will be gone eventually. That is simply not correct. The epidemic is an ecological relationship that we have to manage between ourselves and the virus. But instead, people are looking at it as a completely external thing.


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Alastair: We talk about international travel as a disease vector, and talk about how we’ll never get back to that normal. It’s the sledgehammer idea that you can eliminate it by stopping mixing. It’s a kind of false trade-off.

I think the trade-off is very extreme. Obviously the most extreme manifestation of that trade-off is the 23 million people who will be pushed below the poverty line as a result of this sledgehammer approach. The costs to the arts is I think also incredibly profound – the theatres and all other forms of performing art. But also the inherent art of living, which I think is being compromised.

Acts of kindness are being eschewed. Someone was telling me yesterday that their mother said to them “please don’t come home, you’re going to kill us”.


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What politicians can do is maybe alter their language to reflect that we do live with risk, we have to make quite difficult decisions about trade-offs that exist between ways of life, between livelihoods, and sacrifices that have to be made at a societal level. They would do well to urge people to think at a communitarian level.

I think the lockdown is really individualistic in its general construction. Things that we normally disperse within the community, such as individual risk, and individual blame. Now I see young people being terrified, even though they realise the risk to themselves is low, that they might infect a friend who will then give it to their grandparents. This chain of guilt is somehow located to the individual rather than being distributed and shared.

We have to share the guilt. We have to share the responsibility. And we have to take on board certain risks ourselves in order to fulfil our obligations and to uphold the social contract. So I’d like the politicians to remind people of that, because that’s what they’ve been elected to do – to see the social contract is being properly transacted.

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