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The country will survive regardless. This isn’t the end times. Gonna be a rough decade though probably.


I'm not sure we have a country now. We can't even agree on the definition of "woman" or what holidays we should celebrate.

Yeah but no offense but that’s because you’ve gotten pretty hyperbolic and melodramatic with your posts on this lately. Of course we have a country right now. It’s not the most peaceful of times but these things tend to go in cycles and were in a valley right now. Another peak will be coming.

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The country will survive regardless. This isn’t the end times. Gonna be a rough decade though probably.


I'm not sure we have a country now. We can't even agree on the definition of "woman" or what holidays we should celebrate.

Tough times will put a very abrupt end to the silly issues we invented for ourselves in the 2010's.

And we aren't in the tough times yet. Not even close.

People keep tossing the memos. Can you blame them? We've had almost two generations of good times. At least the last time we had price controls, double digit inflation, 20% interest rates, there were unions.


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I dont disagree with the right of workers to organise but unions are anti-competitive, and the USA is going to need to compete with the rest of the world on equal footing for the first time since 1916. The right to unionize is obviously guaranteed and not going anywhere, but if a union shop cant turn a profit then that's the end of that union shop.

Trump is going to exhaust the printing press. That much is clear, he's going to try to buy this election by pumping the S&P and printing checks to American households.


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I'll be fucking forty when America is livable again. Sad!


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Going to need that 90% wealth tax back to get out of this boondoggle.

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Going to need that 90% wealth tax back to get out of this boondoggle.

That tax was a farce and everyone knew it, which is why they lowered it. Nobody paid it and I dare you to find one example of somebody who did.


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Yea none of that really matters when you average one global news event every year, each one more negative than the last.

Tourism to Chicago is dead, Chicago's little flirtation with being a "global" city is dead (more like it has a global airport). In a way this might be Actually Good, as the infantile obsession the city government had with being recognized took up basically all of their attention. But it wont, because now there's gonna be a giant hole in the ground where there once was millions and millions of tourism dollars.

Bernstein loves to call Chicago a global city. I always laughed when he did. It's not and has never been. There are only a handful of them and Chicago will never make that list. But I don't live there and should probably STFU.


I don't know what it takes to be a "global city", but it is something the the 8th biggest in terms of GDP. And it at one time hosted millions of business travelers every year, and it was in the top two or three for the number of conventions. The houseware show alone was bringing in 100,000 attendees, exhibitors, and support staff from around the world.

If we think the state is bad now, when Chicago goes it's going to be really bad.

I'm not sure either, but I doubt 100,000 people coming to look at the latest lines of Tupperware is the litmus test.


That was just an example of a big one. There are thousands of medical, scientific and economic gatherings as well. And O'Hare has been one of the busiest airports in the world since forever.

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Going to need that 90% wealth tax back to get out of this boondoggle.

But, but, but...think of the Mercedes Benz dealers, the Kobe steak eaters!!!

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Antarctica wrote:
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Going to need that 90% wealth tax back to get out of this boondoggle.

That tax was a farce and everyone knew it, which is why they lowered it. Nobody paid it and I dare you to find one example of somebody who did.

I should add that federal tax revenue as a share of GDP was unmoved from the time this tax was in implementation and after it was binned.


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I dont disagree with the right of workers to organise but unions are anti-competitive, and the USA is going to need to compete with the rest of the world on equal footing for the first time since 1916. The right to unionize is obviously guaranteed and not going anywhere, but if a union shop cant turn a profit then that's the end of that union shop.

Trump is going to exhaust the printing press. That much is clear, he's going to try to buy this election by pumping the S&P and printing checks to American households.

No we don't.


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That was just an example of a big one. There are thousands of medical, scientific and economic gatherings as well. And O'Hare has been one of the busiest airports in the world since forever.

O'Hare is the only world-class thing about Chicago.


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The country will survive regardless. This isn’t the end times. Gonna be a rough decade though probably.


I'm not sure we have a country now. We can't even agree on the definition of "woman" or what holidays we should celebrate.

Yeah but no offense but that’s because you’ve gotten pretty hyperbolic and melodramatic with your posts on this lately. Of course we have a country right now. It’s not the most peaceful of times but these things tend to go in cycles and were in a valley right now. Another peak will be coming.

That's the ordinary response of the most hyperbolic around here. Except this time when they've all turned to doomsday conspiracy theorists....er whiny bullshit peddlers.

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Wednesday afternoon the family took a tall sail boat trip from NP and had dinner at Riva. We were the only people in the upstairs dining room from 4:30-6:30 and just as we left a table of 6 got seated. Staying at the Loews hotel where it’s 50% off a 2nd room and parking is discounted. Did the architectural boat tour today, had the full tea service at the Russian Tea Room, and then had dinner at Smith and Wolensky’s. It’s a great time to be doing stuff downtown.


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Wednesday afternoon the family took a tall sail boat trip from NP and had dinner at Riva. We were the only people in the upstairs dining room from 4:30-6:30 and just as we left a table of 6 got seated. Staying at the Loews hotel where it’s 50% off a 2nd room and parking is discounted. Did the architectural boat tour today, had the full tea service at the Russian Tea Room, and then had dinner at Smith and Wolensky’s. It’s a great time to be doing stuff downtown.


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It's world class in the same way a place like Frankfurt is world class. It may not be a center for leisure tourism but business tourists know it, love it and come here in droves. There are very few "Washington slept here" tourist stops in this city yet it has an incredibly healthy leisure tourist industry, so word must be out internationally that this is a nice place to come. Even now, you cannot walk downtown without hearing a tourist speaking a foreign language.

Domestically, look at Seattle and Portland. The news has been nothing but bad coming from there in the past six months. I doubt its tempered enthusiasm to travel there. Internationally, Paris has either labor or social unrest basically every few months.

Antarctica, you're a guy who flees home at the first hint of anything uncomfortable, so you have been around. You know that you can go nearly anywhere on this planet and people will recognize the place when you lie and say you are from Chicago.

I don't know what world class is. New York may be the only place in the country that fits the strictest of definitions. People travel here internationally and multi national corporations seem to like to set up shop here.

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In 3-5 years the tourists will be all over Navy Pier again.


I wouldn't count on that. They're likely to be showing karate flicks to guys drinking Wild Irish Rose from bottles in paper bags at the Cadillac Palace Theater.

that sounds like a good night out 2bqh

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We're careening into a massive depression, every city except NY/LA/SF/DC is fucked. What, like Nashville is going to thrive in this?

Never underestimate a "city" built as a playground for white suburbanites and SEC bros.


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Kirkwood wrote:
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We're careening into a massive depression, every city except NY/LA/SF/DC is fucked. What, like Nashville is going to thrive in this?

Never underestimate a "city" built as a playground for white suburbanites and SEC bros.

I am flying there on Tuesday. :lol:

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We're careening into a massive depression, every city except NY/LA/SF/DC is fucked. What, like Nashville is going to thrive in this?

Never underestimate a "city" built as a playground for white suburbanites and SEC bros.

I am flying there on Tuesday. :lol:

i'm jealous. always a great time.

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We're careening into a massive depression, every city except NY/LA/SF/DC is fucked. What, like Nashville is going to thrive in this?

Never underestimate a "city" built as a playground for white suburbanites and SEC bros.

I am flying there on Tuesday. :lol:

i'm jealous. always a great time.

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I actually don't spend a ton of time in Nashville, all of my family is in Murfreesboro. My son and I will go over and spend some time. To be honest, I liked Nashville a whole lot better 15 years ago. Much more Honky Tonkish than it is now with all of the Corporate Money involved.

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We're careening into a massive depression, every city except NY/LA/SF/DC is fucked. What, like Nashville is going to thrive in this?

Never underestimate a "city" built as a playground for white suburbanites and SEC bros.

I am flying there on Tuesday. :lol:

i'm jealous. always a great time.

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Navy Pier sucks. The Bean sucks. The Crown Fountain sucks.

Correctamundo!


Come on. Nave Pier is like Fanuel Hall in Boston. It's for tourists. It has a purpous.

The Bean is great and so is Buckingham Fountain. Legit nice things that are pleasant to walk around even as a resident.

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Navy Pier sucks. The Bean sucks. The Crown Fountain sucks.

Correctamundo!


Come on. Nave Pier is like Fanuel Hall in Boston. It's for tourists. It has a purpous.

The Bean is great and so is Buckingham Fountain. Legit nice things that are pleasant to walk around even as a resident.

I never understood The Bean appeal. What's so great about it?

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Ron Wolfley wrote:
Navy Pier sucks. The Bean sucks. The Crown Fountain sucks.

Correctamundo!


Come on. Nave Pier is like Fanuel Hall in Boston. It's for tourists. It has a purpous.

The Bean is great and so is Buckingham Fountain. Legit nice things that are pleasant to walk around even as a resident.

I never understood The Bean appeal. What's so great about it?


It's art. What's so great about the Picassos or Flamingo? It looks nice and in a great setting any time of year. I like how it reflects the sky and is accessible 360 degrees. It makes me happy. I can't comment on the finer artistic points. I just like it.

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Kirkwood and Good Dolphin will hilariously defend Chicago no matter what.

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Cloudscape is unique and provides some interesting and different views of the city. I get that it's not for everybody, but it is pretty cool to go see once in awhile.

Navy Pier is all right place to go to every couple of years as well. It's definitely a tourist trap, but walking along the pier offers some really great views. The ferris wheel also offers a unique perspective of the city.

And to KD's point, I would rather have a meal at Riva then go to PF Chang's or some other sort of chain.

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good dolphin wrote:
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Ron Wolfley wrote:
Navy Pier sucks. The Bean sucks. The Crown Fountain sucks.

Correctamundo!


Come on. Nave Pier is like Fanuel Hall in Boston. It's for tourists. It has a purpous.

The Bean is great and so is Buckingham Fountain. Legit nice things that are pleasant to walk around even as a resident.


Jesus Christ. Let it go.

How many homeless piss on the Bean every night?


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Recent threads here about Chicago always turn into some people saying a few negative things about the place and then certain people desperately defending their miraculous city. Makes me want to throw up.

And I get it, you grew up there. But be real, the city is an embarrassment at the moment. It's a dump. Go cry about it.


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lol aren't you in the bat plague hotspot of Phoenix? Glass houses, my man.

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