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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:31 am 
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ERA for relievers is a tricky stat at best


Yeah, I always thought one of Murph's best ideas (if in fact he came up with it) was having a modified ERA where the fault for a run scored was more equitably divided between the pitcher who put him on and the pitcher who allowed him to score. For example:

Pitcher allows a single and gets taken out. Reliever allows him to score. The first pitcher gets charged with 0.25 earned run and the reliever 0.75.

An inherited man on second would be 0.50/0.50 and so forth.

The other thing that skews reliever ERA is that they often come in with one or two outs. If someone comes in with two outs, it's relatively easy to get out of the inning with no runs charged to them.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
ERA for relievers is a tricky stat at best, but if IMU wants to bump his "THEO WON THE Q TRADE" thread because Jose was able to pitch two clean innings before the wheels fell off, then he can go right ahead and do so. Funny how smacking down the truth in front of a self procliamed baseball executive is dismissed as having a bad attitude.


To Chet's point, Ross's mistake was having Q out of the bullpen. Since coming out of the pen is not foreign to Chatwood over the last couple of seasons, he may have been better suited for that role. Let Q start and cover 9 outs or throw 40 pitches, then bring in Chatwood.

Of course, none of that matters I guess because neither Chatwood nor Q got any run support!

They were playing the fucking Tigers. Out of the bullpen or starting shouldn't matter there.

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Frank, I think Ross was looking ahead to the first round of the playoffs, when Q will have to come out of the bullpen or not be on the roster. Get him some practice warming up mid game, etc. Also less stress than starting.

The problem was that he left him in for another inning. He looked good in his first inning. I went to bed after that so I didn't see what happened in the inning where he got knocked out.

I think Q starts one of the DH games in Cincinnati on Saturday, and Chatwood either goes back to the DL or goes into long relief.


why can't Q start in the playoffs?

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Frank, I think Ross was looking ahead to the first round of the playoffs, when Q will have to come out of the bullpen or not be on the roster. Get him some practice warming up mid game, etc. Also less stress than starting.

The problem was that he left him in for another inning. He looked good in his first inning. I went to bed after that so I didn't see what happened in the inning where he got knocked out.

I think Q starts one of the DH games in Cincinnati on Saturday, and Chatwood either goes back to the DL or goes into long relief.


why can't Q start in the playoffs?

First round is a 3 game series. Darvish, Hendricks, Lester. You probably keep Mills to piggyback with Lester, and have Quintana available to pitch long relief in one of the first two games.

In later rounds, I'd expect Quintana to start depending on how the off days line up. If they go to a bubble with 7 games in 8 days, then he will definitely start.

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Dan and Julie are furious the Cubs are playing tonight.

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Heyward is sitting out



The more powerful statement would be to void the contract by this evil capitalist system that enables the racism


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Lester looking rickety already .

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Lester looking rickety already .

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"Very good" is not the correct phrase to use when the pitcher leaves the game with 2 on and nobody out after giving up a run.

Then again when it comes to baseball, especially Chicago baseball, you rarely are correct.

You really do have an attitude problem Frank.

I wouldn’t really call it a problem to point out the Cubs suck

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Heyward is sitting out



The more powerful statement would be to void the contract by this evil capitalist system that enables the racism

Can’t have that many years left on it at this point

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Heyward is sitting out



The more powerful statement would be to void the contract by this evil capitalist system that enables the racism

Can’t have that many years left on it at this point



4 more after this year I believe

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312player wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Heyward is sitting out



The more powerful statement would be to void the contract by this evil capitalist system that enables the racism

Can’t have that many years left on it at this point



4 more after this year I believe

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FavreFan wrote:
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Heyward is sitting out



The more powerful statement would be to void the contract by this evil capitalist system that enables the racism

Can’t have that many years left on it at this point


Three more after this one.

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conns7901 wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Heyward is sitting out



The more powerful statement would be to void the contract by this evil capitalist system that enables the racism

Can’t have that many years left on it at this point


Three more after this one.



Brutal

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312player wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Heyward is sitting out



The more powerful statement would be to void the contract by this evil capitalist system that enables the racism

Can’t have that many years left on it at this point


Three more after this one.



Brutal

Any chance the cops can kill one a day for the next 3 years ?

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badrogue17 wrote:
312player wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Heyward is sitting out



The more powerful statement would be to void the contract by this evil capitalist system that enables the racism

Can’t have that many years left on it at this point


Three more after this one.



Brutal

Any chance the cops can kill one a day for the next 3 years ?


They could taze then shoot Heyward and leave him paralyzed?

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Wick seems to be regressing.

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This is absolutely embarrassing.

The bullpen is a fucking dumpster fire.

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Great games today for both Chicago teams

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Great games today for both Chicago teams


Yup.

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It seems the Cubs ultimately decided not to play today

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Stick a fork in Kimbrel.

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Stick a fork in Kimbrel.


Another great signing brought to you by the chosen one Theo.

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When I posted that he had walked the first batter and went 3-0 on the next. Of course he turned it around and got out of it. Although it’s garbage time.

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Tigers being Tigers.

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Happ not tagging on Rizzo's 418 foot flyout is gonna end this game for them.

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The same Tigers pitching staff that the White Sox have gotten to abuse for 7 games so far in order to inflate their own lineup's stats.
Or the Sox are good and the Cubs arent.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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The same Tigers pitching staff that the White Sox have gotten to abuse for 7 games so far in order to inflate their own lineup's stats.
Or the Sox are good and the Cubs arent.

Sure looks that way.

Ship passing in the night headed different directions over the course of the next few years.

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It looks like the Cubs just got hot the first week or two of the season and now reality has set-in. Losing a series to the Tigers... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Another great signing brought to you by the chosen one Theo.

Who would you have signed to close games for them last year Mike?

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