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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:55 pm 
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Padres OUT on Clevinger now

I think they end up back in on him at the end. Unless Atlanta is willing to give up Pasche.

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I got a feeling Not Steve Cishek is full of shit.


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Antarctica wrote:
I got a feeling Not Steve Cishek is full of shit.


Something would of been announced by now.


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 Post subject: Re: Sox Deadline Action
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Antarctica wrote:
I got a feeling Not Steve Cishek is full of shit.


Just doing the old Boers and Bernstein routine. Take a logical leap thst if true makes it look like you knew what your were talking about.

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I got a feeling Not Steve Cishek is full of shit.


Something would of been announced by now.

Exactly, if the trades done why sit on it? The guy is a clown hoping a deal gets made tonight.


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 Post subject: Re: Sox Deadline Action
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So the trade was all bullshit?

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I read the rumor wire and definitely Clevenger is in play with the Sox, Padres, and Braves the main guys talking about him. I would be surprised, though if Cleveland would trade him to the Sox although what the Sox would give up I think is better than what the other two could offer. Lynn and Q are in play also trade rumor wise.

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Zack Collins not making the trip to Minnesota. Either he got replcaed on the taxi squad by Yermin or he's gone.


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 Post subject: Re: Sox Deadline Action
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Zack Collins not making the trip to Minnesota. Either he got replcaed on the taxi squad by Yermin or he's gone.


Weird. I think he has potential still. Selling low if a trade.

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Zack Collins not making the trip to Minnesota. Either he got replcaed on the taxi squad by Yermin or he's gone.


Weird. I think he has potential still. Selling low if a trade.


Not with the White Sox he doesn't. Mercedes is the best catcher not on the major league roster and he is a hitter with a ton of power. I frankly was surprised that they signed EE with Mercedes in the organization.

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This was like at 10:30 last night. So maybe Collins and Heuer headed to Brewers for Hader?


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That guy is a clown with fake rumors. He also said Vaughn was being called up last week.

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I don't see anything concrete from the usual insiders.


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Honestly, I'd really like to just roll with Dunning. He's exceeded expectations at each point during his professional career.

As Beardown has noted, the Sox are in the playoffs. I think they can win a series but aren't a real WS contender at this point.

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if they make a move i hope the acquired player will be around for 2021 too. giving up too much for a chance to win an asterisk WS seems silly.


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if they make a move i hope the acquired player will be around for 2021 too. giving up too much for a chance to win an asterisk WS seems silly.


Yeah, I think that is a given in Hahn's mind and plan. I think that there are several trades talks going on now with the Sox and the Indians, the Rangers, and the Reds.

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Honestly, I'd really like to just roll with Dunning. He's exceeded expectations at each point during his professional career.

As Beardown has noted, the Sox are in the playoffs. I think they can win a series but aren't a real WS contender at this point.


Who is for sure better than them in the American League? They are as real as any contender right now.

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 Post subject: Re: Sox Deadline Action
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As Beardown has noted, the Sox are in the playoffs. I think they can win a series but aren't a real WS contender at this point.
If Giolito, Keuchel, and Cease are on their game, they can take care of any team they would come up against.

Ricky and his bullpen use is may be tough to overcome.

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 Post subject: Re: Sox Deadline Action
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good dolphin wrote:
Honestly, I'd really like to just roll with Dunning. He's exceeded expectations at each point during his professional career.

As Beardown has noted, the Sox are in the playoffs. I think they can win a series but aren't a real WS contender at this point.


Who is for sure better than them in the American League? They are as real as any contender right now.


I agree with that. Right now I think that the team to beat is Cleveland in that I think that they have the best pitching top to bottom and in baseball. This is also why I think the Sox should try to add a quality starter.

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As Beardown has noted, the Sox are in the playoffs. I think they can win a series but aren't a real WS contender at this point.
If Giolito, Keuchel, and Cease are on their game, they can take care of any team they would come up against.

Ricky and his bullpen use is may be tough to overcome.

The new relief pitcher rule is as much to blame as eanything else.

I think if you could rip a guy out again as as soon as he starts to falter, you can manage the game more effectively.

Didn't help much in '18 and '19, but its total handcuffs otherwise

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As Beardown has noted, the Sox are in the playoffs. I think they can win a series but aren't a real WS contender at this point.
If Giolito, Keuchel, and Cease are on their game, they can take care of any team they would come up against.

Ricky and his bullpen use is may be tough to overcome.


I can't count on rookies to perform in the bright lights of the playoffs. I can't imagine I'd feel comfortable with Cease starting a Game 3.

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Clevinger is a Padre.

At least he is out of the division. I hope all of the prospects traded for him bust.

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Clevinger is a Padre.

At least he is out of the division. I hope all of the prospects traded for him bust.


I think it was gamesmanship using the Sox as a stalking horse. Trading him to a division rival with whom you are tied for 1st seems like an unlikely scenario

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Clevinger is a Padre.

At least he is out of the division. I hope all of the prospects traded for him bust.


I think it was gamesmanship using the Sox as a stalking horse. Trading him to a division rival with whom you are tied for 1st seems like an unlikely scenario

a team in 1st place trading away pitching for prospects is not the move of a contender. I think Cleveland knows they are a 3rd place team when the music stops

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Honestly, I'd really like to just roll with Dunning. He's exceeded expectations at each point during his professional career.

As Beardown has noted, the Sox are in the playoffs. I think they can win a series but aren't a real WS contender at this point.


Who is for sure better than them in the American League? They are as real as any contender right now.

The Rays.

No way the Indians make this trade to a divisional rival.


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Cleveland going for quantity over quality on the return.


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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Clevinger is a Padre.

At least he is out of the division. I hope all of the prospects traded for him bust.


I think it was gamesmanship using the Sox as a stalking horse. Trading him to a division rival with whom you are tied for 1st seems like an unlikely scenario

a team in 1st place trading away pitching for prospects is not the move of a contender. I think Cleveland knows they are a 3rd place team when the music stops


There are less than 30 games left in this "season". Cleveland is going to be in the play-offs no matted what happens and still has excellent pitching. They can still win the silly season. I haven't read what they got back but they are re-building. Lindor will be next but that will happen after the silly season.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Cleveland going for quantity over quality on the return.



There is no way Hahn was paying that much for a pitcher.

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I dont mind the two failed pitching prospects, Kopech and Lopez, battling it out for the five spot in the rotation next year. But this year should be about over for Rey as a starter. Get him some work out of the pen and see how that progresses for now. Its title-hunting time.

Come-on? Failed pitching prospects? Hardly, especially Kopech.

Oh give me a break. The guy quit on a world series contender, he's a mental midget. No way he can hack it in this league.


Yep. He might need the drugs Zach Greinke took.

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