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I've actually wondered about this for over 25 years now. Never understood why black people would practice Christianity and worship Jesus when that religion was literally forced upon them by slavery.

Now, in the middle of cancel culture, why is no one talking about that?

We're in the middle of a period of time where anything that references slavery or the confederacy is being cancelled. Even the words "auction" and "owner" are being removed from fantasy and real sports because of the connection those words have to slavery. Yet no one is coming for the ultimate racist, Jesus?

In the past 500 years has there been a partner more complicit in the oppression of black people than Christianity?


Why is Jesus/christianity off limits when that religion did way more damage to black people than Christopher Columbus ever did?

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I've actually wondered about this for over 25 years now. Never understood why black people would practice Christianity and worship Jesus when that religion was literally forced upon them by slavery.

Now, in the middle of cancel culture, why is no one talking about that?

We're in the middle of a period of time where anything that references slavery or the confederacy is being cancelled. Even the words "auction" and "owner" are being removed from fantasy and real sports because of the connection those words have to slavery. Yet no one is coming for the ultimate racist, Jesus?

In the past 500 years has there been a partner more complicit in the oppression of black people than Christianity?


Why is Jesus/christianity off limits when that religion did way more damage to black people than Christopher Columbus ever did?


He already has been.


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shakes wrote:
In the past 500 years has there been a partner more complicit in the oppression of black people than Christianity?

Ehhh you may want to read about who was behind the slave trade there, partner.


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Egyptians aren't black. This would be like saying since Turks and Japanese are both in Asia they're both the same.


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Jesus was probably darker skinned than most depictions we see though right?

Haven't done extensive research


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The Irish were slaves you know.

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the color of Jesus' skin has nothing to do with this topic. It's the actions of the religion he started.

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Jesus was probably darker skinned than most depictions we see though right?

Haven't done extensive research

The supposed anti-racists out there sure love debating the finer points of Jesus' skin tone. "Was he black enough to be considered black?" "How light skinned do you have to be to be white?" """"OLIVE SKIN""""

You dont realize the people you would've fit in best with throughout history are quack race scholars enlisted by a certain German regime between the years 1933-45.


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shakes wrote:
the color of Jesus' skin has nothing to do with this topic. It's the actions of the religion he started.

Again, it wasn't christians who were predominantly responsible for the transatlantic slave trade.


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Antarctica wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Jesus was probably darker skinned than most depictions we see though right?

Haven't done extensive research

The supposed anti-racists out there sure love debating the finer points of Jesus' skin tone. "Was he black enough to be considered black?" "How light skinned do you have to be to be white?" """"OLIVE SKIN""""

You dont realize the people you would've fit in best with throughout history are quack race scholars enlisted by a certain German regime between the years 1933-45.

Don't be mad because you got called out on posting fake news. Just be better.

And I am on no anti racist crusade. Ive long since learned they arent going anywhere in my lifetime. I just don't excuse them or pretend its not racism when it clearly is

And lol @ you saying someone else would fit in with Nazis


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Jesus was probably darker skinned than most depictions we see though right?

Haven't done extensive research


Yes

And Jesus is usually depicted in the color/and or ethnicity of the country that he is portrayed in.

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shakes wrote:
the color of Jesus' skin has nothing to do with this topic. It's the actions of the religion he started.


Someone is conveniently forgetting the Old Testament. :lol:

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shakes wrote:
I've actually wondered about this for over 25 years now. Never understood why black people would practice Christianity and worship Jesus when that religion was literally forced upon them by slavery.

Now, in the middle of cancel culture, why is no one talking about that?

We're in the middle of a period of time where anything that references slavery or the confederacy is being cancelled. Even the words "auction" and "owner" are being removed from fantasy and real sports because of the connection those words have to slavery. Yet no one is coming for the ultimate racist, Jesus?

In the past 500 years has there been a partner more complicit in the oppression of black people than Christianity?


Why is Jesus/christianity off limits when that religion did way more damage to black people than Christopher Columbus ever did?


can't cancel church.... church and politics are one in the same. i like your angle though


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Antarctica wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Jesus was probably darker skinned than most depictions we see though right?

Haven't done extensive research

The supposed anti-racists out there sure love debating the finer points of Jesus' skin tone. "Was he black enough to be considered black?" "How light skinned do you have to be to be white?" """"OLIVE SKIN""""

You dont realize the people you would've fit in best with throughout history are quack race scholars enlisted by a certain German regime between the years 1933-45.

Don't be mad because you got called out on posting fake news. Just be better.

And I am on no anti racist crusade. Ive long since learned they arent going anywhere in my lifetime. I just don't excuse them or pretend its not racism when it clearly is

And lol @ you saying someone else would fit in with Nazis

I dont debate race science or any of that nonsense. I leave that for Shaun King.


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Christianity has sort of been cancelled by academia.

And Nietzsche, but at least he's interesting and cool.


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The Irish were slaves you know.


So where the Poles and Rus.

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https://www.amazon.com/Holy-Blood-Grail-History-Shocking/dp/0385338457


You read all their books?

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because Jesus preached truth to the downtrodden and that truth still always seems to ring true to those on the fringes 2,000 years later

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chaspoppcap wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
The Irish were slaves you know.


So where the Poles and Rus.


And yet no white history month. What gives?

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shakes wrote:
I've actually wondered about this for over 25 years now. Never understood why black people would practice Christianity and worship Jesus when that religion was literally forced upon them by slavery.

Now, in the middle of cancel culture, why is no one talking about that?

We're in the middle of a period of time where anything that references slavery or the confederacy is being cancelled. Even the words "auction" and "owner" are being removed from fantasy and real sports because of the connection those words have to slavery. Yet no one is coming for the ultimate racist, Jesus?

In the past 500 years has there been a partner more complicit in the oppression of black people than Christianity?


Why is Jesus/christianity off limits when that religion did way more damage to black people than Christopher Columbus ever did?


There are so many fallacies in your reasoning and you pose such loaded questions that the topic in the way you've framed it is too misrepresented and ignorant to address. If I had to, I would start by saying your implicit main premise is false that black people have no free will and no choice whether to practice Christianity. No one is forcing them do anything as far as religion. You go on to conflate the confederacy with Christianity to assign guilt by association. As for your accusation of Jesus being the "ultimate racist", you do know that he spoke to the Samaritan woman, which was taboo? What do you think race meant to Jesus, when he healed the sick, the blind and lepers? The last two questions are just false dogma.


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shakes wrote:
I've actually wondered about this for over 25 years now. Never understood why black people would practice Christianity and worship Jesus when that religion was literally forced upon them by slavery.

Now, in the middle of cancel culture, why is no one talking about that?

We're in the middle of a period of time where anything that references slavery or the confederacy is being cancelled. Even the words "auction" and "owner" are being removed from fantasy and real sports because of the connection those words have to slavery. Yet no one is coming for the ultimate racist, Jesus?

In the past 500 years has there been a partner more complicit in the oppression of black people than Christianity?


Why is Jesus/christianity off limits when that religion did way more damage to black people than Christopher Columbus ever did?


There are so many fallacies in your reasoning and you pose such loaded questions that the topic in the way you've framed is too misrepresented and ignorant to address. If I had to, I would start by saying your implicit main premise is false that black people have no free will and no choice whether to practice Christianity. No one is forcing them do anything as far as religion. You go on to conflate the confederacy with Christianity to assign guilt by association. As for your accusation of Jesus being the "ultimate racist", you do know that he spoke to the Samaritan woman, which was taboo? What do you think race meant to Jesus, when he healed the sick, the blind and lepers? The last two questions are just false dogma.


so you're saying that Christianity was not used as one of the main tools to enslave the continent of Africa? Was the priest who accompanied all the colonizers just there for fun?

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shakes wrote:
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shakes wrote:
I've actually wondered about this for over 25 years now. Never understood why black people would practice Christianity and worship Jesus when that religion was literally forced upon them by slavery.

Now, in the middle of cancel culture, why is no one talking about that?

We're in the middle of a period of time where anything that references slavery or the confederacy is being cancelled. Even the words "auction" and "owner" are being removed from fantasy and real sports because of the connection those words have to slavery. Yet no one is coming for the ultimate racist, Jesus?

In the past 500 years has there been a partner more complicit in the oppression of black people than Christianity?


Why is Jesus/christianity off limits when that religion did way more damage to black people than Christopher Columbus ever did?


There are so many fallacies in your reasoning and you pose such loaded questions that the topic in the way you've framed is too misrepresented and ignorant to address. If I had to, I would start by saying your implicit main premise is false that black people have no free will and no choice whether to practice Christianity. No one is forcing them do anything as far as religion. You go on to conflate the confederacy with Christianity to assign guilt by association. As for your accusation of Jesus being the "ultimate racist", you do know that he spoke to the Samaritan woman, which was taboo? What do you think race meant to Jesus, when he healed the sick, the blind and lepers? The last two questions are just false dogma.


so you're saying that Christianity was not used as one of the main tools to enslave the continent of Africa? Was the priest who accompanied all the colonizers just there for fun?


You weren't talking about Africa in your original post. You were talking about the United States and the Confederacy and cancelling Jesus here. Black people have not been in slavery in this country since the Civil War, so 155 years ago. But if someone were to misuse Christianity as a front in another country, as you claim, then it wouldn't be true Christianity, would it?


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Dignified Rube wrote:
shakes wrote:
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shakes wrote:
I've actually wondered about this for over 25 years now. Never understood why black people would practice Christianity and worship Jesus when that religion was literally forced upon them by slavery.

Now, in the middle of cancel culture, why is no one talking about that?

We're in the middle of a period of time where anything that references slavery or the confederacy is being cancelled. Even the words "auction" and "owner" are being removed from fantasy and real sports because of the connection those words have to slavery. Yet no one is coming for the ultimate racist, Jesus?

In the past 500 years has there been a partner more complicit in the oppression of black people than Christianity?


Why is Jesus/christianity off limits when that religion did way more damage to black people than Christopher Columbus ever did?


There are so many fallacies in your reasoning and you pose such loaded questions that the topic in the way you've framed is too misrepresented and ignorant to address. If I had to, I would start by saying your implicit main premise is false that black people have no free will and no choice whether to practice Christianity. No one is forcing them do anything as far as religion. You go on to conflate the confederacy with Christianity to assign guilt by association. As for your accusation of Jesus being the "ultimate racist", you do know that he spoke to the Samaritan woman, which was taboo? What do you think race meant to Jesus, when he healed the sick, the blind and lepers? The last two questions are just false dogma.


so you're saying that Christianity was not used as one of the main tools to enslave the continent of Africa? Was the priest who accompanied all the colonizers just there for fun?


You weren't talking about Africa in your original post. You were talking about the United States and the Confederacy and cancelling Jesus here. Black people have not been in slavery in this country since the Civil War, so 155 years ago. But if someone were to misuse Christianity as a front in another country, as you claim, then it wouldn't be true Christianity, would it?


where do you think the slaves came from?

And when they got here, do you think they were allowed to practice the religion they grew up with?

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