From afar, it does really seem like a shit show. I do wonder if this will have any long term affect on recruits, I doubt it but it will be interesting to see.

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Illinois high school sports are a micro version of this same problem. Every other adjoining state is going about its business as we sit here with empty schools and no outlet for the kids.

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Basically the schools and conferences got to make up their own minds here, several aren't playing.

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Don't look now, but another key starter at LSU has opted out.

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What do you think is going to happen if the Big Ten plays next spring, it will be like Varsity Reserve games.

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It was a terrible decision that was likely politically motivated:

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Can't we have one normal section without this garbage?

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You are more than welcome to frequent the RAIDERS thread.

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I’ll assume you read and considered the article. It makes zero sense that states are returning to play sports except Big Ten football.

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Golly, what a far out theory, huh? People trying to stick it to Trump by any means possible. Why would anyone think that?

I've largely washed my hands of the NCAA. If Texas A&M or Tennessee went bust paying for quarter full palaces it's fine with me know. $40k lockers blowing up in Austin and Tuscaloosa would be a good thing when they don't give a damn about the kids.

It's gonna be weird some Saturdays, I'll admit.

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I read it. It's absolute insanity to think that the Presidents of Big Ten schools from 7 different states(New Jersey, Maryland, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota) would get together to cancel football on the chance that middle America would blame Donald Trump for it costing each athletic department $50-$100 million each, resulting in a budget crunch that will take years to get out of and significant layoffs and other cost cutting measures, and the absolute embarrassment of other football being played all around the country while a conference that liked to consider themselves a leader is sitting at home arguing if they should start in March, January, or Thanksgiving.

I'm going to go ahead and say that conspiracy theory is one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

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Now Kevin Warren and Donald Trump are talking and seemingly working together on a restart. This seems like a really bad way to get Trump voted out of office.

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Or that the Big Ten schools are actually more interested in their stated missions, with a couple led by epidemiologists who actually consider potential myocardial problems a real threat to the kids playing for free.

Let's face facts, the three schools voting in favor of playing are at the bottom half, if not the bottom of the conference academically.

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Clearly Clay Travis is little more than a mouth breathing moron preaching to his nutty choir.

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I don't think it's the sole reason, you explain away why having a season in late November is acceptable, but the conference can't play now. You explain away why the Big Ten commissioner says he wants to "swing the election" in mid-June. Why is the Big Ten commissioner even suggesting that the conference should play a role in a presidential election?

There is zero logic in delaying the season other than covering their asses and political reasons. To say there is zero chance that is a consideration given the current political environment is one of the dumbest conclusions you could reach given the set of facts.

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Of course it was politically motivated. Did anyone actually believe it wasn't? That this disease that basically poses zero risk to anyone without co-morbidities actually imperiled the health of D1 athletes?

Many of the teams in the big 10 are public schools....I think the word public means way more than politically motivated.
The the public high school and grade schools are eLearning and have postponed their athletics, there's no way in hell the public universities are going to be different.

Illinois is clearly eLearning. I believe much of Michigan has started with eLearning....yeah, that's gonna big a heavy factor.

I love me a good conspiracy theory as much as anyone, but I'm with BRick here.....cancelling Big 10 Football to "get Trump" is laughable.

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the guy did say he wanted to swing an election which is pretty stupid. and its fair to guess all the presidents of these colleges are liberal idiots, but yeah, i'm not buying it being politically motivated outside of it being an afterthought. and the "trumps america" thing isn't really working in the first place.

I think it has a bit to do with future litigation. I think it has to do with the myocardia thing that has fortunately already basically already been kind of downplayed by numbers of cardiologists as being a flawed study. I also think its just being scared. There is just too much money involved for them to be like lets get trump but who knows.

It could still be the right move in the end but the big 10 really screwed the pooch on this. I think they acted too fast and without enough transparency and are just getting killed for it.

That's a reasonable question. You have to go back and look at the timeline. At the end of July or beginning of August, an Indiana football recruit ended up in the hospital with heart issues and a positive COVID test. His mother made a big deal of it on social media and there is belief she was pressuring the Big Ten about the dangers of playing. That's a pretty compelling story to fight against. Testing among Big Ten schools was expensive and uneven. Almost half the Big Ten had shut down voluntary workouts/practices because of too many COVID tests. A medical study was done that showed an emerging risk of heart issues from COVID for all ages. The Big Ten Presidents voted, in what we now know was an 11-3 vote, to postpone the season to March as more information came out. Many people questioned why you had to make that decision in early August instead of delaying the season to the end of September like had already been planned. The Big Ten dug in and refused to budge. They got a lot of external and internal push back.

So then we get the cascade of bad ideas being slowly pulled back. It was first pointed out that how badly a March-May/June football season would be for football in September 2021 so that season would have to be shortened too. Then they came up with the idea of starting on January 1st, but similar issues would still be in play. It's certainly better but then you also can't play in Big Ten stadiums and have to hope that domed stadiums will let you play there. So, then why not start around Thanksgiving? The benefit is that you would finish in January and September 2021 can happen as planned. That's where we are now. I still think it gets pushed back further because why not just do October if Thanksgiving is fine?

All the while that this is happening, a cheap and effective spit test is made available that takes the cost per test from like $120 a test to $5 a test and it is done in less than an hour. The IU football recruit gets out of the hospital and is already reportedly practicing with the team. Every other conference, besides the Pac-12 pushes forward with football, and now some are even letting fans attend. High school football is happening with fans. The athletic departments are begging season ticket holders to donate their tickets this year or they'll have to make even more cuts. Iowa cuts 4 sports, with other schools planning on it. Kevin Warren continues to give very poor answers to just about everything even on the BTN that would be the kindest to him for obvious reasons. The Big Ten has no choice to cross their fingers that the ACC shuts down too, but even as 4 ACC schools go to online learning within a week of having students on campus they say "We'll play football even if students are not in classes" and it's pretty obvious that things are not going to change without a COVID death by a football player.

So that's where we are now.


Get out and vote campaigns have existed for decades. Is encouraging people to vote a problem?

You didn't refute what I said before. I've given you the complete timeline now. Maybe it is a plot against Trump though.

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Oh, and I'm breaking my 3 posts rule here I know, but the Big Ten just acknowledged they are working WITH Trump to see how quickly a season can be played due to government helping out with the saliva test.

Is the Big Ten actively trying to get Trump re-elected?

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You're a sweet kid!

The guy talked about starting a literacy program, a mental health initiative, and a voting registration program and suddenly he's alleged to be openly anti trump. Grasping at straws. Not surprisingly.

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If the Big Ten doesn't play, but let's the SEC play it's suicide for the conference. The SEC continuing to play, and the Nebraska players suing is a lot of political pressure on the conference.

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MLB is playing, but the MiLB is shutdown. Basically the same thing....

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Ten kids @UCF just walked out and the Giants are talking about a boycott. Better apply to get on the Sox bandwagon now!

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It will be interesting to see what happens to players who opt out. I would guess many will not come back.

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I'm sure that Big 1G and PAC 12 schools will welcome them. Strangely friends of mine who have sons playing out west (incl one who's a highly rated senior) are barely publicly commenting on this. I wonder what they've been told.

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