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I know, right? Mitch has been there forever, but that's what really dates it: "folks, I hate everyone equally, I'm an equal-opportunity offender" is that pure late-'90s/early-2000s "fun" misanthropy that had stopped being socially acceptable by 2012.

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they dropped out of school on the same day :lol:


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Fritzy had an interest in some horses for about ten years, but he got out in 1996 because he was "tired of dealin' with hillbillies, sick of dealin' with toothless trainers. If I can't control what I'm doin' when I got my money invested then I'm not gonna let them control it." He says, "I'll tell you a story about a horse we bought called Sorrows Nightwind--we claimed him for $10,000 in Chicago. We entered him three weeks later in Churchill Downs in Kentucky for $25,000. He went off at six to five. A big group of us drove down there. And the assistant trainer forgot to give him the Lasix [for bleeding], and needless to say we came back without enough money to stop at White Castle. I was dyin' for a White Castle, they didn't take credit cards, we're all tapped out, and we're drivin' a caravan of Cadillacs."


Haven't heard Jorr's Fritzy story yet.

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Fritzy had an interest in some horses for about ten years, but he got out in 1996 because he was "tired of dealin' with hillbillies, sick of dealin' with toothless trainers. If I can't control what I'm doin' when I got my money invested then I'm not gonna let them control it." He says, "I'll tell you a story about a horse we bought called Sorrows Nightwind--we claimed him for $10,000 in Chicago. We entered him three weeks later in Churchill Downs in Kentucky for $25,000. He went off at six to five. A big group of us drove down there. And the assistant trainer forgot to give him the Lasix [for bleeding], and needless to say we came back without enough money to stop at White Castle. I was dyin' for a White Castle, they didn't take credit cards, we're all tapped out, and we're drivin' a caravan of Cadillacs."


Haven't heard Jorr's Fritzy story yet.



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Fritzy was ridiculous even back in those days.

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Fritzy had an interest in some horses for about ten years, but he got out in 1996 because he was "tired of dealin' with hillbillies, sick of dealin' with toothless trainers. If I can't control what I'm doin' when I got my money invested then I'm not gonna let them control it." He says, "I'll tell you a story about a horse we bought called Sorrows Nightwind--we claimed him for $10,000 in Chicago. We entered him three weeks later in Churchill Downs in Kentucky for $25,000. He went off at six to five. A big group of us drove down there. And the assistant trainer forgot to give him the Lasix [for bleeding], and needless to say we came back without enough money to stop at White Castle. I was dyin' for a White Castle, they didn't take credit cards, we're all tapped out, and we're drivin' a caravan of Cadillacs."


Haven't heard Jorr's Fritzy story yet.



Fritzy and I are good pals.


I'm pretty sure that Fritzy had an uncle Nick who lived in Wilmette in one of the "affordable" units on Ridge. Nick and especially his wife Christy were good friends of my parents.

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Can someone give me a plausible explanation as to how the idea of mac actually committing suicide by social media benefits him in any way

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Can someone give me a plausible explanation as to how the idea of mac actually committing suicide by social media benefits him in any way


There can only be one Ween fan on the bored.

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Can someone give me a plausible explanation as to how the idea of mac actually committing suicide by social media benefits him in any way

I'd guess the theory goes that Mac was getting close to the Retirement Figure—the total amount of money he feels he needs to stash away to care for his son for the rest of his life—anyway and he realized that Entercom might be willing to settle his paper for an amount that would get him to the Retirement Figure, but still be less than the total value of his new deal, and close enough to the amount they would spend on lawyers defending against paying out on the rest of his deal should he say something to get himself fired. For Entercom the bonus would be that they get to take Dan's contract off of their already-on-fire financial books for a percentage of the total value of the deal; For Dan the bonus would be he gets close enough to the total amount of money he came back to the business for in the first place and gets to check out early and spend the rest of his days fishing in Manitoba; And the mutual benefit is that neither party has to spend money and time litigating the issue.

As for WHY Dan might entertain such a scheme: Maybe he fell out of love with talking about sports, social issues, or sports AND social issues, maybe he fell out of love with talking for a living in general, maybe he took a look in the mirror and didn't like what he and his content had become over the last 6-12 months without sports to yak about as he let his younger, more liberal and Always Online partner steer their show to places he may not have liked (sound familiar?). It's also possible that he really, REALLY hated being like Terry sitting in his basement yelling at his ottoman to collect a paycheck, and he realized that it wasn't the talking sports that made him feel fulfilled, or even banking money to care for his son, but the process of going to the studio everyday and interacting with people in what limited ways a person in radio interacts with people; the feeling of doing work and being useful, regardless of whether the work was dumb sports and Rolling Stones takes transmitted over the air.

Anyway, that's just the theory as I would imagine it, but I don't put much stock into it: Dan's tweet wasn't toxic and crude enough to be from someone trying to get fired, and if it was really constructed with an eye towards getting himself canned, Dan McNeil is Machiavelli reincarnate, and I don't think he's that kind of manipulator.


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Yeah Im not thinking this was done on purpose at all by Mac. Especially since there is zero guarantee he's going to see any money. Im guessing he's shell-shocked actually.

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Nah, he just fucked up and became the example, but that will happen when you betray yourself and surrender what makes you you.

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No. He did not do this on purpose.

Yes, he will get his remaining contract money. I think he should fight for more than that in court like I've said.

If he doesn't win that suit, it means the court hates the porn industry. Which is a legal industry. And the judicial system shouldn't hate legal industries. That's not what America is about.


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No. He did not do this on purpose.

Yes, he will get his remaining contract money. I think he should fight for more than that in court like I've said.

If he doesn't win that suit, it means the court hates the porn industry. Which is a legal industry. And the judicial system shouldn't hate legal industries. That's not what America is about.

I don't think it was on purpose either.
They will reach a settlement. A settlement usually involves concessions on both sides. He's not getting his full contract. He'll got a percentage....everyone will be happy.

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Can someone give me a plausible explanation as to how the idea of mac actually committing suicide by social media benefits him in any way

I'd guess the theory goes that Mac was getting close to the Retirement Figure—the total amount of money he feels he needs to stash away to care for his son for the rest of his life—anyway and he realized that Entercom might be willing to settle his paper for an amount that would get him to the Retirement Figure, but still be less than the total value of his new deal, and close enough to the amount they would spend on lawyers defending against paying out on the rest of his deal should he say something to get himself fired. For Entercom the bonus would be that they get to take Dan's contract off of their already-on-fire financial books for a percentage of the total value of the deal; For Dan the bonus would be he gets close enough to the total amount of money he came back to the business for in the first place and gets to check out early and spend the rest of his days fishing in Manitoba; And the mutual benefit is that neither party has to spend money and time litigating the issue.

As for WHY Dan might entertain such a scheme: Maybe he fell out of love with talking about sports, social issues, or sports AND social issues, maybe he fell out of love with talking for a living in general, maybe he took a look in the mirror and didn't like what he and his content had become over the last 6-12 months without sports to yak about as he let his younger, more liberal and Always Online partner steer their show to places he may not have liked (sound familiar?). It's also possible that he really, REALLY hated being like Terry sitting in his basement yelling at his ottoman to collect a paycheck, and he realized that it wasn't the talking sports that made him feel fulfilled, or even banking money to care for his son, but the process of going to the studio everyday and interacting with people in what limited ways a person in radio interacts with people; the feeling of doing work and being useful, regardless of whether the work was dumb sports and Rolling Stones takes transmitted over the air.

Anyway, that's just the theory as I would imagine it, but I don't put much stock into it: Dan's tweet wasn't toxic and crude enough to be from someone trying to get fired, and if it was really constructed with an eye towards getting himself canned, Dan McNeil is Machiavelli reincarnate, and I don't think he's that kind of manipulator.


a horny washed up radio host made a mistake on social media in 2020 and got fired because of it. that's about all that happened.


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Yep, there were no morals to be gathered from this story.

59 seems like an awfully young age to retire with dependants. However, he had already said he was retiring in a year and part of that year was going to be spent on sabbatical in an RV like Albert Brooks in Lost in America. Similar to Brooks, I could see him losing that nest egg on some vice.

for the life of me, I just cannot understand these sports talkers who desperately want to retire from four hour days for nice pay having to do nothing but express thoughts on the previous days events. I'm from the Howard Stern belief that you don't leave money on the table. Sure, if the job retires you, you move on. If they are willing to pay you for that schedule, you keep earning. Your heirs will thank you.

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Can someone give me a plausible explanation as to how the idea of mac actually committing suicide by social media benefits him in any way


There can only be one Ween fan on the bored.


piss up a rope

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TriColoredPastas wrote:
Can someone give me a plausible explanation as to how the idea of mac actually committing suicide by social media benefits him in any way


There can only be one Ween fan on the bored.


piss up a rope


Umm after a few more weeks around here, you will realize that “cum up a rope” was the better response.

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Yep, there were no morals to be gathered from this story.

59 seems like an awfully young age to retire with dependants. However, he had already said he was retiring in a year and part of that year was going to be spent on sabbatical in an RV like Albert Brooks in Lost in America. Similar to Brooks, I could see him losing that nest egg on some vice.

for the life of me, I just cannot understand these sports talkers who desperately want to retire from four hour days for nice pay having to do nothing but express thoughts on the previous days events. I'm from the Howard Stern belief that you don't leave money on the table. Sure, if the job retires you, you move on. If they are willing to pay you for that schedule, you keep earning. Your heirs will thank you.


I don't get it either, but some people seem to be unable to deal with living in the public eye like this without melting down every few years.

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Can someone give me a plausible explanation as to how the idea of mac actually committing suicide by social media benefits him in any way


There can only be one Ween fan on the bored.


piss up a rope


Umm after a few more weeks around here, you will realize that “cum up a rope” was the better response.


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TriColoredPastas wrote:
Can someone give me a plausible explanation as to how the idea of mac actually committing suicide by social media benefits him in any way


There can only be one Ween fan on the bored.


We've been a little past that point for a bit.

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SpiralStairs wrote:
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Can someone give me a plausible explanation as to how the idea of mac actually committing suicide by social media benefits him in any way


There can only be one Ween fan on the bored.


piss up a rope


Umm after a few more weeks around here, you will realize that “cum up a rope” was the better response.


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He's just waving his dick in the wind.

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Can someone give me a plausible explanation as to how the idea of mac actually committing suicide by social media benefits him in any way


There can only be one Ween fan on the bored.


piss up a rope


Umm after a few more weeks around here, you will realize that “cum up a rope” was the better response.


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SS, I am sure with your slight upper body build, climbing ropes was never your thing. But you sure as shit loved the feel of those things between your legs. Right? :wink:

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Mac did not do this on purpose.

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Mac did not do this on purpose.


No way he did. He laid out his employment plans a few times.


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Mac did not do this on purpose.


No way he did. He laid out his employment plans a few times.


I think it was a Russian conspiracy.

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