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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

North was making a million a year at the height of Dumb Radio Money. So was Roe Conn. Bernstein's not making that money now but he's gotta be well over $100,000, too. Closer to that than $1,000,000, though, of course.

Hope you had a Google Voice number, Beardown, Jason was gonna track you down.

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No. This was like 10 years ago when Goff reached out to me. Maybe longer than that. Phone numbers were never exchanged. He just offered that. He wanted to talk to me. I said no to him.

My rejection probably hurt his ego. I think when he did it he thought I'd jump at the opportunity. I had zero interest in doing it. I just said no.

I don't want to talk to anybody on the phone. You can talk to me here. That's basically what I told him.

A few years ago, I was working on a proposal for a project and part of which would have needed a couple of young energetic storytellers to spend two years doing a mix of in person and phone interviews with small business owners around the country. I put two of our junior analysts in the proposal, but asked a friend of mine who was a journalist if masters students from the University of Missouri would be interested in applying. He asked me what the pay would be and I lowballed him with $55k plus benefits and a generous per diem when travelling, and they could live in Austin TX or Chicago.

His reply was that if we won the job, I'd have over half the graduating class applying for those two jobs, and that $55k was a nearly unheard of salary.

So I'm not surprised at $25/hour for a first time guest host or a producer or newer update person picking up a 10-midnight slot. For a Shuster or Rozner, I'd expect a lot more especially for a holiday.

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"When people want their version of the truth, they go find it, no matter how baseless their beliefs." -- Ken Rosenthal

ffs bernstien could make more on a podcast with ads...

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

You get what you pay for. I would say the talent at the Score fits the pay rate.

Would even say the main hosts should get no more then $35 an hour for the lack of originality they put out.

You could switch any of the backup hosts with the main hosts and not tell much difference.

Waddle and Silvy gotta be making at least 150K each I would think. Kap with all he does probably makes the most in town. I would say Kap on a normal year makes over 400K(Comcast show, conference basketball etc etc.)

Agreed Noth was just stupid money. He adds no value to any show.

If I am Danny P, I am trying my damndest to get to LA or NYC and go national.

There's no way Bernsie is making $1M.

Danny P would have no appeal if he tried going national. He would crash and burn. As it is he only moved to Chicago from KC by virtue of having gone to New Trier and used local connections.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

The way Parkins jumped into the weekday lineup out of another market never fit with the Score's up-through-the-mailroom culture. In its way, it was an even more baffling move than handing late mornings to Dan Hampton. You have to become acquainted with these guys and all their peccadilloes and neuroses before they can really become A Personality, just like any message board. Parkins is a second-string national guy doing local drive time.

EDIT: more baffling than Hampton but less baffling than Mannelly

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Do you think Parkins ultimately flames out in Chicago or has a sustained run of success ala Bernstein/Mac?

Neither. He will oversee the decline.

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Yup, Cubs content is the only thing propping up the station right now, sad to see the station that used to provide so much entertainment devolve into what it has today, can't help but think that someone will put together an "unfiltered" podcast with some of the old score hosts, gotta think you could get an entertaining hour or two per week out of some combination of Mac, Uncle Terry, and North.

Heck, you could bring back them and the entire original lineup with Jiggs, Murph and Hanley and they would destroy the current WSCR lineup.

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That’d be something to have the original Score lineup.

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North has been gone from the Score for almost as many years as he was there (16 to 12). I think the world has moved on from Mike North, and frankly, I don't think there's that much desire for the other guys, either.

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I doubt there are many listeners under 35 who even know who Mike North is. I do not know when most people start listening to sports radio, but I am assuming I am in the minority starting when I was 11 or 12. Spending my school nights listening to the WMAQ Sports Huddle while playing Super Nintendo in the early 90s.

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I'm not surprised by this. How much money can they actually get from the shitty advertisers they have? What does Blue Chew give them. $100s? $1,000s?

That said, I think its kind of bullshit to assume that people working in the industry are there because they are lazy or not skilled enough for other things. A few of them likely are.

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Jaw that is a great idea


get like Beggars Pizza, Rohrman Auto and some other big local players and produce a youtube return of the sportswriters, do another like sportswriters set (poker table), sponsor soda or beer bottles or corona seltzer tie in or Miller Lite, and do a podast, twitch, youtube show with those guys twice a month or once a week during bears season, more esisodes if a chicago team gets hot, but you could do a weekly like the friday chicago tonight episode on channel 11 is a summary of the weeks biggest stories. this is brainstorming, but it could work, low production cost, high return

north,
hannelly
terry
mac

you could zoom them in and have guests, Id listen to or watch that in a new york minute.


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sabu

I like where you're going in theory but Terry Boers on a Zoom call has the potential to be, as they say in the old country, bad TV.

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Bringing back the originals would be some interesting radio for the first week. It would be better than Bernstein or Parkins.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Bringing back the originals wouldn't work because what we really want is the original format rather than the original hosts.

These hosts were great in their prime but radio hosts are a lot like musicians in that there is a limited period in which you are in your prime and creating good content and then a long period of time where you are still performing for an audience but you no longer have the creative spark that propelled you to where you are.

That's where Barstool draws me in. It's younger, fresher talent that still feels they need to work hard every day to produce and is similar in style to earlier days of sports radio. In 10 years guys who I love like Big Cat and PFT probably won't be as entertaining as they are today, which kind of sucks, but that's just reality in this business.

When it comes to 670 though, the young guys really aren't entertaining in any way. I never will turn the radio to 670 to ask myself if I want to hear Parkins' thought on something because it would probably put me to sleep.

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We rag on Barstool and your love for them, but what you described is absolutely right. A guy like Big Cat is talent the Score would have and should have developed and brought up through the ranks. I don't know what his life story is, but I'm guessing he sorta fell into what he's doing after a number of twists and turns. I doubt he was like Parkins or Goff, who knew from childhood that they wanted to be the afternoon-drive host on the local sports radio station, and then were.

The Score's decision to grow together with the audience was probably the correct one in a lot of respects, but they never kept the pipeline well-stocked, whether that was because they couldn't identify new and worthy talent or because that new and worthy talent wouldn't fuck this rotten radio industry with a stolen dick and went into podcasting instead. Young up-and-comer Laurence Holmes has been at the station since Jordan was on the Bulls.

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They “developed” Bernsie who went on to infect the entire station and everything that we have today. LoHo, McDoink, Goff, and other sycophants took their cues from his opinions.

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The "serious sports radio host" gimmick might have been unique 10 years ago when Boers and Bernstein were at their peak, but you can find hundreds of people just like Bernstein and Parkins on Twitter giving hot takes. What sports radio needs is more characters, more meatball hosts who have something fun to offer. You may laugh but the next wave of successful sports radio hosts will be more like Scott Ferrall, Mike Murphy, Mike North than dorks like Parkins. 670 has become very bland. Change is coming!

Yeah change is coming. Me changing the radio station.

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The stock market doesn't like meatballs. They like predictability.

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Boers and Bernstein at their peak were anything but serious. That's what the clones never figured out.

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Og

I was a barstool guy like 5 years ago, Im really too old for thier demo (,like by 15 years), but I think that Big Cat and PFT are jumping the shark or becoming like when REM or Husker DU signed their Warner Brothers record deal or when the Clash released combat rock. I loved them when they played Cabaret Metro, ya know.

I know its a shitty attitude to have, but I liked Pardon My take when they werent that big, they were satirical and now they are soo big and soo successful that their confllict amongs Bar Stool 'employees' (who all are like on air entertainment signing comedy contracts) is shtick and the tounge in cheek interviews Pardon My Take did where the person being interviewed isnt quite in on the joke and doesnt realize the joke is kind of on him or her is no longer possible. They made themselves millions, so its not like I can be pissed at them, hell I bought PENN stock at the 20s so, you wont find me crying over it.

I like big cat alot, shit every young turk and asswipe in Chicago radio is trying to be him, but heres the thing

he was made out to be a chicago guy to the nation 5 yearts ago, he is a post college chicago guy, he is from the east coast, went to Wisco and moved to Chicago after college, hes like how someone who went to Naperville Central and hangs out at Beaumonts is from Chicago. Now he was held out as a bag of roast beef sangwhiches Chicago guy until Barstool Chicago with real chicago guys started. now the key word there is Chicago guy (joke man). The are entertainment, sports punditry with like fictionial characters, because most of the conflict is like kayfabe (I got to use it in a post, YES)

they still are pretty entertaining, but I find myself paying less attention, Im an old fuck and planning for retirement.

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sabu



It was kind of like when Mariotti first came here for the Sun Times, they tried to market him as a city guy, even though he was from Detroit.