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 Post subject: Re: Lovecraft Country
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Show could be cool w/o all the racial stuff. Lovecraft never made race a focal part of his work.


what race stuff? just that the cast is black? don't get you.

If you mean the oppression they faced during those times that's an accurate depiction.


Uhhh what are you talking about? The show is about monsters. No need to shove racial stuff down everyone's throat.

My husband pointed out the same thing. I am Mexican-American, born here, and it is kind of offensive to me that everyone is focusing their attention only on African AmerIcans. It seems like we get left out of all the pop culture shows that do not involve drugs or gangs.

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 Post subject: Re: Lovecraft Country
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Kiki BumBom wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Show could be cool w/o all the racial stuff. Lovecraft never made race a focal part of his work.


what race stuff? just that the cast is black? don't get you.

If you mean the oppression they faced during those times that's an accurate depiction.


Uhhh what are you talking about? The show is about monsters. No need to shove racial stuff down everyone's throat.

My husband pointed out the same thing. I am Mexican-American, born here, and it is kind of offensive to me that everyone is focusing their attention only on African AmerIcans. It seems like we get left out of all the pop culture shows that do not involve drugs or gangs.

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 Post subject: Re: Lovecraft Country
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HawaiiYou wrote:
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Kiki BumBom wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Show could be cool w/o all the racial stuff. Lovecraft never made race a focal part of his work.


what race stuff? just that the cast is black? don't get you.

If you mean the oppression they faced during those times that's an accurate depiction.


Uhhh what are you talking about? The show is about monsters. No need to shove racial stuff down everyone's throat.

My husband pointed out the same thing. I am Mexican-American, born here, and it is kind of offensive to me that everyone is focusing their attention only on African AmerIcans. It seems like we get left out of all the pop culture shows that do not involve drugs or gangs.

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Pretty sure it was Sunday but yeah I remember those days well. Usually a Charlie Chan or Sherlock Holmes after that, play outside to avoid Cubs baseball and then Family Classics I’m the early evening.

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 Post subject: Re: Lovecraft Country
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Just rewatched ep 4.

This show is tits.

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ok that sucked tonight.

nothing much to do w/ the main story except like 15 min of the show.

I guess Fetish's was the theme tonight - not sure why.

hope it gets back on track next week.


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It was kinda gay.

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excellent episode!


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 Post subject: Re: Lovecraft Country
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Fantastic show.

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it's on a roll. last 2-3 episodes been really good. season finale Sunday. I hope it gets renewed.


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SpiralStairs wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
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Show could be cool w/o all the racial stuff. Lovecraft never made race a focal part of his work.


what race stuff? just that the cast is black? don't get you.

If you mean the oppression they faced during those times that's an accurate depiction.


Uhhh what are you talking about? The show is about monsters. No need to shove racial stuff down everyone's throat.

What an ignorant perspective


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Kiki BumBom wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Show could be cool w/o all the racial stuff. Lovecraft never made race a focal part of his work.


what race stuff? just that the cast is black? don't get you.

If you mean the oppression they faced during those times that's an accurate depiction.


Uhhh what are you talking about? The show is about monsters. No need to shove racial stuff down everyone's throat.

My husband pointed out the same thing. I am Mexican-American, born here, and it is kind of offensive to me that everyone is focusing their attention only on African AmerIcans. It seems like we get left out of all the pop culture shows that do not involve drugs or gangs.


Then go make your own shows.

Damn those black people and all the attention they’re getting


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 Post subject: Re: Lovecraft Country
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Great show.

Did it get renewed for s2?

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 Post subject: Re: Lovecraft Country
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Woke trash gets one season.

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 Post subject: Re: Lovecraft Country
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 Post subject: Re: Lovecraft Country
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Jeez let’s see, somehow Lovecraft is just a civil rights story. Just like Watchmen. The only thing that ever happened here is evil racist.

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 Post subject: Re: Lovecraft Country
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How MANY drinks have you had?

The show barely has anything to do with Lovecraft.

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WFR how MANY minutes of Lovecraft Country have you watched?

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Jeez let’s see, somehow Lovecraft is just a civil rights story. Just like Watchmen. The only thing that ever happened here is evil racist.


Lovecraft was a super racist. They cast an all black cast as a FUCK YOU to him.


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SPOILERS



Ending was underwhelming. they wasted the first 45 min of the episode with nothing. the 'Grease' sing a long in the car was really stupid. I guess it was used at the end to surprise us but could have been done better.

The last 15 min was ok.


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How MANY drinks have you had?

The show barely has anything to do with Lovecraft.


Lovecraft Country has nothing to do with Lovecraft. Interesting. The show was made to point out that a beloved author who has been dead for 80 years is problematic and racist. It’s the nonstop drumbeat to rewrite the past and become obsessed with the ugly parts.

How did two high profile HBO shows with origins in comic books and horror stories become a chance to rehash a riot in Tulsa in 1921?

Art is supposed to transcend race. Now race dictates the story, the politics and the cast.

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 Post subject: Re: Lovecraft Country
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:

Art is supposed to transcend race. Now race dictates the story, the politics and the cast.


And where is this written? In the Art Rule Book?

Art doesn’t transcend any aspect of culture. It’s a representation and expression of culture(s).

It’s absolutely mind boggling that you would not only feel threatened by a show that depicts racial issues but you would also cry foul, citing that art isn’t “allowed” to feature racism.

How old are you, white man?


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It's like clockwork. You show up have nothing to say other than bitch that someone dared to challenge your preferred orthodoxy. We can't talk about black people on the Internet! Ever.

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Crick Ramp wrote:
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Art is supposed to transcend race. Now race dictates the story, the politics and the cast.


And where is this written? In the Art Rule Book?

Art doesn’t transcend any aspect of culture. It’s a representation and expression of culture(s).

It’s absolutely mind boggling that you would not only feel threatened by a show that depicts racial issues but you would also cry foul, citing that art isn’t “allowed” to feature racism.

How old are you, white man?


You pull this act with everyone you disagree with. We are posters on a message board. If you had coherent ideas worth discussing you would not have to immediately revert to race and age identity as some sort of argument.

When you read a great book is your first thought what is the race of the person who wrote it? Are they allowed to have these ideas? Because that's were we are now because of self-loathing idiots. I don't need a show to serve as a fuck you to a long dead author. Sure we will use your popular ideas, but you weren't wok in the 1930s. So we will cast only black actors, and make it all about Jim Crow and race riots.

What is the logical conclusion to this type of non-stop indoctrination? You are seeing it with a summer of rioting, looting and vandalism.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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How MANY drinks have you had?

The show barely has anything to do with Lovecraft.


Lovecraft Country has nothing to do with Lovecraft. Interesting. The show was made to point out that a beloved author who has been dead for 80 years is problematic and racist. It’s the nonstop drumbeat to rewrite the past and become obsessed with the ugly parts.

How did two high profile HBO shows with origins in comic books and horror stories become a chance to rehash a riot in Tulsa in 1921?

Art is supposed to transcend race. Now race dictates the story, the politics and the cast.


That's an odd reason to make a show. I figured it was created to make money. You probably have better info though because you don't have an ax to grind.

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SpiralStairs wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
How MANY drinks have you had?

The show barely has anything to do with Lovecraft.


Lovecraft Country has nothing to do with Lovecraft. Interesting. The show was made to point out that a beloved author who has been dead for 80 years is problematic and racist. It’s the nonstop drumbeat to rewrite the past and become obsessed with the ugly parts.

How did two high profile HBO shows with origins in comic books and horror stories become a chance to rehash a riot in Tulsa in 1921?

Art is supposed to transcend race. Now race dictates the story, the politics and the cast.


That's an odd reason to make a show. I figured it was created to make money. You probably have better info though because you don't have an ax to grind.


You certainly have an ax to grind or you would not throw a temper tantrum every time someone goes against your dogma. I guess the creators are just lying about their intension in interviews.

Quote:
Green explains. “It’s this idea of reclaiming all of the genre space for people of color, for people who have been left out of this space and so I feel like there's so much genre,


https://www.etonline.com/lovecraft-coun ... ook-154873

And let's not act like diversity isn't an official corporate policy at HBO:

https://deadline.com/2018/09/warner-bro ... 202457597/

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Crick Ramp wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:

Art is supposed to transcend race. Now race dictates the story, the politics and the cast.


And where is this written? In the Art Rule Book?

Art doesn’t transcend any aspect of culture. It’s a representation and expression of culture(s).

It’s absolutely mind boggling that you would not only feel threatened by a show that depicts racial issues but you would also cry foul, citing that art isn’t “allowed” to feature racism.

How old are you, white man?


You pull this act with everyone you disagree with. We are posters on a message board. If you had coherent ideas worth discussing you would not have to immediately revert to race and age identity as some sort of argument.

When you read a great book is your first thought what is the race of the person who wrote it? Are they allowed to have these ideas? Because that's were we are now because of self-loathing idiots. I don't need a show to serve as a fuck you to a long dead author. Sure we will use your popular ideas, but you weren't wok in the 1930s. So we will cast only black actors, and make it all about Jim Crow and race riots.

What is the logical conclusion to this type of non-stop indoctrination? You are seeing it with a summer of rioting, looting and vandalism.


Are people allowed to have ideas?

Crazy question.

I don’t present coherent ideas to refute opinions like yours because there is no way to refute claims like yours when you think you’re the arbiter of what art should be or what ideas artists are allowed to have. How could I possibly engage with someone who thinks those things?


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You are avoiding the discussion. Lovecraft but with black people isn’t much of an idea. Why should the race of writers and creators be the most important part of a show? Should you only get to tell the story of your race in fiction?

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