There's really zero doubt about it. Anyone arguing to the contrary is just being ridiculous.

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Do you watch Bears games?

The line is absurdly bad.

Like getting blown backwards on every play.

The rushing offense is non existent.

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It wasn't an excuse when (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was playing though. That's the point. They also didn't look nearly as bad.

As for the rushing game, in the games that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky started this year, they ran for 149, 135, and 130 though obviously that 130 was a combined effort of both quarterbacks.

The running stats plummeted when Foles was in there after that.

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Would he have video game numbers that he has now? No...but I assure you, he would still have pro bowl numbers.

Okay, I can meet you there. It may be safe to assume that this is how Robinson feels. Interesting insight into the mindset of the offense if this is any indication.

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Foles bad.

O-Line worst I’ve ever seen.

This isn’t hard.

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I've watched quite a few Bears games recently. Not sure what to tell you if you think QBs cant succeed with bad OL in front of them. Russ did it for like 5+ years of his career already.

But, if you think the main difference between Pat Mahomes and Nick Foles is the OL in front of them then I'm not sure what else I can say to convince you otherwise. It's just an obscenely dumb take.

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It's probably not even the worst OL in the NFL this year. FOH with this hyperbolic nonsense.

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The offensive line is also at a major disadvantage because Foles is immobile even when you judge him against other quarterbacks that aren't really good at running. Even Drew Brees can be a threat to run if the field opens up. Foles as he approaches the line of scrimmage does everything in his power to make sure he can still throw the ball. Defenses can play far more aggressive when there is no way that the quarterback can hurt them with even a 5 yard run.

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It goes both ways. A bad QB makes the OL look way worse.

Gotta assume bills is doing a bit here. If he's being serious then it's probably time to bump another thread

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That’s not what I said at all, but please let’s keep arguing about an opinion neither of us can really prove.

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Right. If Mahomes and Foles switched spots before the season the Bears are probably 8-2 right now and JBills would have almost zero OL complaints.

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Of course we can prove it. Is this your first year of watching NFL football? Russ and pre-2012 Rodgers had perennial success with some of the worst OL in the league.

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Fair enough.

You said Mahomes would be unsuccessful behind this Bears OL. I won't add anything extra you didn't say. That's an embarrassing enough thought on it's own.

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No they’d have a losing record because Mahomes would have been injured in the 3rd game after holding on to the ball too long like he usually does.

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He's for sure doing a bit..you can't pontificate that Mahomes is already the best QB that ever lived(he might be) then say he wouldn't have any success behind a bad oline. It's a 'Rube level take.

Cohen and Patterson are included in those totals as well. I'm not saying the o-line is the primary reason the QBs suck, I'm saying it's an open secret about how poor our o-line is.

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Have you ever watched an NFL game before?

Bad O-lines can get good QBs hurt pretty easily.

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Arguing opinions and hypotheticals like they are facts is peak tardism, and I’m here for it.

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Not really following you here. It'd be difficult but with Mahomes the Bears may be 8-2 or 9-1 if the defense played at the same level. I wouldn't be too confident about a SB birth because of a lack of explosive talent on offense, and the leaky line.

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He’d be on the IR.

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Someone needs to trade Mahomes to the Bears on Madden with latest roster update, and sim this season 100 times to get the average record.

If the average is anything more than 9-7 I’ll buy you guys a drink at the next board outing I attend.

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Nope. All this tells me is you have a very low standard on who you consider the GOAT.

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Yup. Really not much more to it than that.

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You can't play this card after I already provided you multiple examples of QBs succeeding behind dogshit OL

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There's very little doubt that the Bears would be SB favorites if Foles and Mahomes were traded for eachother before Week 1.

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I ran it ten times and Mahomes averaged 300 yards a game on 57/71 passing.

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10 season sims in 4 minutes, and you were able to do the math on averages in that time too?

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