NIU football has gone in the tank. Can't even enjoy MACtion on a Wednesday night anymore. When will programs learn hiring an ex player just doesn't work?

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This was happening regardless of the coach. The question is whether Hammock can turn it around.

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He doesn’t seem good so far.

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This was supposed to happen in year 2?

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Carey gutted that place. My guess is Hammock is fired after next season.

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I guess, but he has 2 years max. Rod Carey sucked too, so maybe this should be a fire Sean Frazier thread.

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Maybe they can pull Jordan Lynch away from Mt.Carmel next?

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UMN said they need to go pluck Don Beebe away from the D3 school he is currently coaching.

I’m down with that.

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It wouldn't surprise me if they did.

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Beebe did very good at Aurora last year. They had been a .500 team the previous few seasons and almost pulled a huge upset in D3 playoffs. Beebe is also close to 56 years old and has never seemed to have the ambition to coach major college football. He has spent most of his retirement working in some capacity at Aurora Christian High School.

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Hmm...

I mean he’d still be local in DeKalb, and it sounds like he wouldn’t jump at the first power 5 offer he’d get.

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Calm down. Something like 90% of the roster is sophomore or younger. It's a crazy team makeup.

As others have said, those guys are seniors in two years and then you judge him

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

You think Hammock gets two more years at this pace?

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Carey is the guy who screwed up the place. This is how you know NIU is not a major football concern in this town...nobody cared. And nobody cares now*

*there are a fair amount of racists in the this town so there may be SOME people who care, if you catch my drift.

Frazier is terrible. Only takes a few minutes of listening to that guy to understand that. Look how bad the basketball team has been.

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Yeah, I know. Some of that though is players leaving the program. Maybe that's not on the HC, but you have to wonder. I understand that Orange Bowl year was an anomaly, but they should be able to compete for MAC championships every few years. Same goes for basketball.

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Do they have a decent team in any sport now?

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t the last 2-3 years the only years they haven’t really competed for the Mac championship since the early 2000s?

They are def young, but as a Huskie fan I’ve grown accustomed to a certain level of talent and competition.

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Wrestling and Girls cross country.

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You're in the Dirty D? I'm quarantining in Sycamore (Hickabore/snore) with my girlfriend. Yes, there are tons of racists in both towns. You see more U of Iowa stuff than NIU. Which is funny to me, because growing up in Naperville, U of Iowa was considered the last resort school to go to if mommy and daddy had money but you were too dumb to get into the U of I, Wisc, Indiana, etc.

NIU was always pretty popular in the sugar grove, elburn, and maple park area where im from mostly due to PJ playing there, the hs coaches son plaing there and chad beebe playing there. Geneva started to send some stars there helping to spread their local popularity. It took a while to build that program and its going to take a while to build it again. I don't think it would be that far off to have Don hop on 88 and drive over to the facility every day. He is a master motivator, has alot of friends to use as coaches and is 2nd to none in talking about JC. He is essentially a humble Dabo. When he realizes that the virus has destroyed d3 sports he will start thinking about NIU.

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That's my purse! I don't know you!

Having grown up in Sycamore/DeKalb it didn’t always used to be THAT racist.

Section 8 housing was approved in the early 2000s.

Certain types of people were gentrified from Chicago to DeKalb after that.

I’m not kidding when I say in 2005 robberies and shootings went from a very rare occurrence in the entire county to a weekly thing.

And it’s gotten worse the last 15 years.

All those hokie white people didn’t have much more than a limited social interaction with people of a darker complexion before the early 2000s.

Now they see the mug shots of the people committing the robberies and shootings which happen to primarily look different than them.

This isn’t an excuse, because you have to choose to be racist.

It’s just an observation from someone who saw a lot of joy leave DeKalb county over the years.

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I like this idea more and more.

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I went to Syco High 20 years ago. There was a group of students who wore a tshirt to school one day with a noose on the front and "Go Back to Africa" on the back. The principal asked them to leave school during 7th period. LOL!

I heard the n-word quite a bit. Went to Ski's "Pub" once with my friend. We didn't get served while sitting at the bar for close to ten minutes, and the clientele stared at my friend quite a bit. He's black but it couldn't have been that.

Yep.

Sounds about white.

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Although, I will say my wife and I haven’t had any service issues at any sycamore restaurants and bars since we’ve gone back to visit the last 5 years.

Waiting to get served at a bar isn’t really racism.

Did you not get served at all?

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We were probably there together and I very much remember the "Hicks Vs Blacks" thing that escalated into a forced message from the principal after weapons were either brought to school or there was a threat of such things.

Dude, Ski's is a pure trash bar. Always has been. Hinks too although I guess they cleaned up some of the motorcycle gangs.

Sycamore is no different than Naperville, lily white for the most part. The section 8 housing is on the north end of town, right by the sewage treatment plant. No surprise how that got placed there. Section 8 housing didn't change anything. NIU has quite a few students that seem to bring their problem friends with them, I'd say that's more where the crime is coming from.

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I don't know the last time you were over by Greek row where most of the crime is happening, but I can assure those aren't college kids living over there.

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Yeah the, “Oh it’s just the bad friend’s of college kids,” was true in the mid 2000s, but it’s clear now the dynamic has changed if you drive through Greek row like Franky said.

My Dad and brother did some remod work at one of the apartment complexes along the campus side of Normal Road a year ago, and the landlord said there is nothing but Section 8 over there now.

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I was at the land of kane the same time you guys must have been at sycamore. I don't recall any racism issues but I also don't recall anyone going there that wasn't white.

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That's my purse! I don't know you!

yeah, I'm not planning on being in that area anytime soon.

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