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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:16 pm 
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Fucking do something already.

Jerry Reinsdorf is literally the only owner who didn't just buy the team this offseason who has made any moves to add pieces. I'm happy he has, but what the fuck does that say about the rest of MLB?

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Fucking do something already.

Jerry Reinsdorf is literally the only owner who didn't just buy the team this offseason who has made any moves to add pieces. I'm happy he has, but what the fuck does that say about the rest of MLB?


The Sox payroll is currently less than last season.

2020: 131
2021: 108 so far

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conns7901 wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Fucking do something already.

Jerry Reinsdorf is literally the only owner who didn't just buy the team this offseason who has made any moves to add pieces. I'm happy he has, but what the fuck does that say about the rest of MLB?


The Sox payroll is currently less than last season.

2020: 131
2021: 108 so far


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Brewers have said their payroll is coming down based on lost ticket and concession revenue from last year.

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conns7901 wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Fucking do something already.

Jerry Reinsdorf is literally the only owner who didn't just buy the team this offseason who has made any moves to add pieces. I'm happy he has, but what the fuck does that say about the rest of MLB?


The Sox payroll is currently less than last season.

2020: 131
2021: 108 so far


Not doubting those numbers, but which contracts dropped off the books from last year? Can't really think of many.

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Nobody is spending it seems in the NL Central. If the Reds don't win this division in 2021 by 10 games then there is something seriously wrong in that organization.


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Jaw Breaker wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Fucking do something already.

Jerry Reinsdorf is literally the only owner who didn't just buy the team this offseason who has made any moves to add pieces. I'm happy he has, but what the fuck does that say about the rest of MLB?


The Sox payroll is currently less than last season.

2020: 131
2021: 108 so far


Not doubting those numbers, but which contracts dropped off the books from last year? Can't really think of many.


Encarnacion, Mazara, Colome, Cishek, McCann, Gonzalez.

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Don't think it factors is club options that haven't been picked up yet or arb numbers either.


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Jaw Breaker wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Fucking do something already.

Jerry Reinsdorf is literally the only owner who didn't just buy the team this offseason who has made any moves to add pieces. I'm happy he has, but what the fuck does that say about the rest of MLB?


The Sox payroll is currently less than last season.

2020: 131
2021: 108 so far


Not doubting those numbers, but which contracts dropped off the books from last year? Can't really think of many.

Edwin and Colome come to mind, but Sox probably are signing another closer.

Giolito is also not counted in there as his arbitration number is not yet determined.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Jaw Breaker wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Fucking do something already.

Jerry Reinsdorf is literally the only owner who didn't just buy the team this offseason who has made any moves to add pieces. I'm happy he has, but what the fuck does that say about the rest of MLB?


The Sox payroll is currently less than last season.

2020: 131
2021: 108 so far


Not doubting those numbers, but which contracts dropped off the books from last year? Can't really think of many.

Edwin and Colome come to mind, but Sox probably are signing another closer.

Giolito is also not counted in there as his arbitration number is not yet determined.



I think it is counted.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/chicago-white-sox/payroll/

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By that methodology the Cubs went from 216 to 93 million.


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KDdidit wrote:
By that methodology the Cubs went from 216 to 93 million.


136 Million as of today.

Big ones cut:

Lester 20
Chatwood 13
Q 10.5
Schwarber 7
Chafin 3
Descalso 2.5

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Cubs https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1520401900
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conns going with the "December payroll championship" strategy. I like it.

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It would be such a great time for Reinsdorf to become Winthorp and Billy Ray, just buying up the artificially deflated assets on the cheap.

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owners now saying spring training is likely to start late and the season will be shortened

how can the covid excuse fly when every other league is moving on?

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conns7901 wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Fucking do something already.

Jerry Reinsdorf is literally the only owner who didn't just buy the team this offseason who has made any moves to add pieces. I'm happy he has, but what the fuck does that say about the rest of MLB?


The Sox payroll is currently less than last season.

2020: 131
2021: 108 so far


No money for Bauer and Springer. But lets hear some more about how cheap the Ricketts are. :roll:


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KDdidit wrote:
By that methodology the Cubs went from 216 to 93 million.


What does the Cubs payroll have to do with your White Sox going cheap when MANY think they competing for a World Series?

The Cubs are in a completely different place with their team. They signed Lester at the same point the White Sox are currently.


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owners now saying spring training is likely to start late and the season will be shortened

how can the covid excuse fly when every other league is moving on?

Baseball has always been a little dumber than the rest of the leagues.

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By that methodology the Cubs went from 216 to 93 million.


What does the Cubs payroll have to do with your White Sox going cheap when MANY think they competing for a World Series?

The Cubs are in a completely different place with their team. They signed Lester at the same point the White Sox are currently.

Ask conns, he's the Sox expert.

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Juiced wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
By that methodology the Cubs went from 216 to 93 million.


What does the Cubs payroll have to do with your White Sox going cheap when MANY think they competing for a World Series?

The Cubs are in a completely different place with their team. They signed Lester at the same point the White Sox are currently.
The Sox are a year early.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Juiced wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
By that methodology the Cubs went from 216 to 93 million.


What does the Cubs payroll have to do with your White Sox going cheap when MANY think they competing for a World Series?

The Cubs are in a completely different place with their team. They signed Lester at the same point the White Sox are currently.

Ask conns, he's the Sox expert.


Frank, do you not agree that Bauer and Springer get the White Sox to the ALCS and their best shot at a World Series?

If I was a Sox fan, I would want my team to sign the best player on the market when they are so close to a championship.


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Brick wrote:
Juiced wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
By that methodology the Cubs went from 216 to 93 million.


What does the Cubs payroll have to do with your White Sox going cheap when MANY think they competing for a World Series?

The Cubs are in a completely different place with their team. They signed Lester at the same point the White Sox are currently.
The Sox are a year early.


No such thing as a year early when your major prospects are playing at the MLB level and your ace is pitching like a Cy Young candidate.

Take the Cubs as an example. Bryant, Baez, Rizzo all shit after 2016. MANY had the prime years 2016-CURRENT.


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owners now saying spring training is likely to start late and the season will be shortened

how can the covid excuse fly when every other league is moving on?

Baseball has always been a little dumber than the rest of the leagues.

Nothing was ever dumber than when the NHL hired Gary Bettman to play hardball on a new CBA with the players' union and their old-Ontario-money lawyers. He was so unpleasant to work with that the league shut down in the wake of New York winning the Stanley Cup and nothing got done until the richest owners stepped in, fucked over the poor owners, and set the league on a wayward path they've never really come off to this day.

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Juiced wrote:
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By that methodology the Cubs went from 216 to 93 million.


What does the Cubs payroll have to do with your White Sox going cheap when MANY think they competing for a World Series?

The Cubs are in a completely different place with their team. They signed Lester at the same point the White Sox are currently.


My White Sox? I’m a Cub fan, dipshit.


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KDdidit wrote:


That Cubs Document currently has zero dollars for Bryant and Baez.

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FavreFan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
owners now saying spring training is likely to start late and the season will be shortened

how can the covid excuse fly when every other league is moving on?

Baseball has always been a little dumber than the rest of the leagues.


Owners want the players to have the least amount of money saved possible for the impending 2021 lockout.

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conns7901 wrote:
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That Cubs Document currently has zero dollars for Bryant and Baez.


That’s an overpay for Bryant.


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That Cubs Document currently has zero dollars for Bryant and Baez.

And the Sox one has zero for Giolito and other arb eligibles, so it seems to be the same formulation.


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