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This movie is almost 50 fucking years old and yet they somehow are incapable of repeating its greatness? Ridiculous. Shame on you moviemakers of the past 4-5 decades.

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I really dont understand why it's so great a movie. Sure it's good, but as time goes by, i'm not sure if it's a great movie anymore. I actually liked Godfather 2 better.


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I really dont understand why it's so great a movie. Sure it's good, but as time goes by, i'm not sure if it's a great movie anymore. I actually liked Godfather 2 better.

Godfather 2 is great but this post is further proof you would’ve been best served sliding down your mothers throat.

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C'mon, it's absolutely still great. Both 1 and 2.

We all know 3 sucked.

But the first 2 still hold up in my mind.


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Tom, can you get me off the hook, for old times sake?
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Yeah. That's just one of dozens all time lines from that movie.


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 Post subject: Re: The Godfather
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This movie is almost 50 fucking years old and yet they somehow are incapable of repeating its greatness? Ridiculous. Shame on you moviemakers of the past 4-5 decades.

Goodfellas did just fine.

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This movie is almost 50 fucking years old and yet they somehow are incapable of repeating its greatness? Ridiculous. Shame on you moviemakers of the past 4-5 decades.

Goodfellas did just fine.

Goodfellas is an entertaining, good movie. Get all the way the fuck outta here about it being equal to The Godfather. We have our differences politically but I didn’t think you were this much of a dumbass.

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This movie is almost 50 fucking years old and yet they somehow are incapable of repeating its greatness? Ridiculous. Shame on you moviemakers of the past 4-5 decades.

Goodfellas did just fine.

Goodfellas is an entertaining, good movie. Get all the way the fuck outta here about it being equal to The Godfather. We have our differences politically but I didn’t think you were this much of a dumbass.

I think Goodfellas is standing on the shoulders of The Godfather, no doubt, but to claim that it is not a masterpiece in ts own right is just not accurate.

How many memes has it generated? Likely just as many as Godfather, albeit without any sequels.

Legendary actors, legendary director, check, check. I think it is quite a fair comparison.

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 Post subject: Re: The Godfather
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Goodfellas is good. Nobody disputes that.

But they were kind of exaggerating the mafia life in Goodfellas. It was a little bit like a comedy. Which is fine.

Godfather was always serious. Which made it cool. And way better than Goodfellas.


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This movie is almost 50 fucking years old and yet they somehow are incapable of repeating its greatness? Ridiculous. Shame on you moviemakers of the past 4-5 decades.

Goodfellas did just fine.

Goodfellas is an entertaining, good movie. Get all the way the fuck outta here about it being equal to The Godfather. We have our differences politically but I didn’t think you were this much of a dumbass.

I think Goodfellas is standing on the shoulders of The Godfather, no doubt, but to claim that it is not a masterpiece in ts own right is just not accurate.

How many memes has it generated? Likely just as many as Godfather, albeit without any sequels.

Legendary actors, legendary director, check, check. I think it is quite a fair comparison.

You’re too lost in your social media boogaloo. Let’s not compare movies on the amount of memes they have generated.

Goodfellas is a fantastic movie. Top 20 or so. It was a perfectly great homage/successor to Godfather. It’s not on the same level.

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 Post subject: Re: The Godfather
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FavreFan wrote:
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This movie is almost 50 fucking years old and yet they somehow are incapable of repeating its greatness? Ridiculous. Shame on you moviemakers of the past 4-5 decades.

Goodfellas did just fine.

Goodfellas is an entertaining, good movie. Get all the way the fuck outta here about it being equal to The Godfather. We have our differences politically but I didn’t think you were this much of a dumbass.

I think Goodfellas is standing on the shoulders of The Godfather, no doubt, but to claim that it is not a masterpiece in ts own right is just not accurate.

How many memes has it generated? Likely just as many as Godfather, albeit without any sequels.

Legendary actors, legendary director, check, check. I think it is quite a fair comparison.

You’re too lost in your social media boogaloo. Let’s not compare movies on the amount of memes they have generated.

Goodfellas is a fantastic movie. Top 20 or so. It was a perfectly great homage/successor to Godfather. It’s not on the same level.

I would also say that Pulp Fiction is just as iconic as Godfather in its own right. It defined an entire generation.

Godfather is the Citizen Kane of mob/crime movies, again, but it does not stand alone simply due to its ultra-serious tone.

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 Post subject: Re: The Godfather
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I put Goodfellas above Godfather. And I'd put Sopranos over Godfather trilogy as well.


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 Post subject: Re: The Godfather
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I put Goodfellas above Godfather. And I'd put Sopranos over Godfather trilogy as well.

Goodfellas is overrated.


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 Post subject: Re: The Godfather
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But they were kind of exaggerating the mafia life in Goodfellas.


I think the most accurate portrayal of mob life is Donnie Brasco, especially the scene where the guys are under so much pressure to kick up that they're reduced to sawing off a parking meter and hammering it open for quarters. The other mob movies make things seem glamorous rather than mundane.

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Beardown wrote:
But they were kind of exaggerating the mafia life in Goodfellas.


I think the most accurate portrayal of mob life is Donnie Brasco, especially the scene where the guys are under so much pressure to kick up that they're reduced to sawing off a parking meter and hammering it open for quarters. The other mob movies make things seem glamorous rather than mundane.

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 Post subject: Re: The Godfather
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"Godfather" reveres Cosa Nostra and the mafia, whereas "Goodfellas" exposes the brutality and sick-minded lifestyle. "Goodfellas" is the "woke" "Godfather". But both are masterpieces in their own right. Just because they're both mob movies doesn't mean they're saying the same thing about it.


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 Post subject: Re: The Godfather
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It's very good, but Peter Griffin was correct in saying it insists upon itself.


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 Post subject: Re: The Godfather
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FavreFan wrote:
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This movie is almost 50 fucking years old and yet they somehow are incapable of repeating its greatness? Ridiculous. Shame on you moviemakers of the past 4-5 decades.

Goodfellas did just fine.

Goodfellas is an entertaining, good movie. Get all the way the fuck outta here about it being equal to The Godfather. We have our differences politically but I didn’t think you were this much of a dumbass.

Goodfellas is a perfect film.


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 Post subject: Re: The Godfather
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I put Goodfellas above Godfather. And I'd put Sopranos over Godfather trilogy as well.

Goodfellas is overrated.

I think it's properly rated because it works as both a mob movie and a comedy in some ways. It's a great story with great performances and on top that it's fuckin hilarious.


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This movie is almost 50 fucking years old and yet they somehow are incapable of repeating its greatness? Ridiculous. Shame on you moviemakers of the past 4-5 decades.

Goodfellas did just fine.

Goodfellas is an entertaining, good movie. Get all the way the fuck outta here about it being equal to The Godfather. We have our differences politically but I didn’t think you were this much of a dumbass.



This is a really stupid opinion. Goodfellas is absolutely on the same level of greatness at Godfather and is arguably a better movie.

I personally have them both in my all time top 5, but Goodfellas is #1 for me.

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Pres-Elect FukNuggitt wrote:
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This movie is almost 50 fucking years old and yet they somehow are incapable of repeating its greatness? Ridiculous. Shame on you moviemakers of the past 4-5 decades.

Goodfellas did just fine.

Goodfellas is an entertaining, good movie. Get all the way the fuck outta here about it being equal to The Godfather. We have our differences politically but I didn’t think you were this much of a dumbass.



This is a really stupid opinion. Goodfellas is absolutely on the same level of greatness at Godfather and is arguably a better movie.

I personally have them both in my all time top 5, but Goodfellas is #1 for me.

This is a really stupid opinion.

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I put Goodfellas above Godfather. And I'd put Sopranos over Godfather trilogy as well.

Goodfellas is overrated.

Responses in this thread seem to validate this opinion.

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Goodfellas is better and has a way higher rewatchability factor.


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I don't think that Goodfellas glorified the mafia. It showed how ugly the day-to-day was and how willing your friends were to kill you over money. Also, to say it's just a fun and entertaining film compared to the Godfather is just nonsense.

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Easily the best film of all time. You got Pacino, Duvall, Brando, Cazalle, etc. all in their prime

The script, score, cinematography, etc. are just perfect.

The Godfather has something that Goodfellas doesn't have. Characters who change and evolve based upon events in the film. Goodfellas is a fun film, but the characters are static. Henry Hill is in a different situation, but he's essentially the same person at the end of the film as he is at the beginning.

Contrast that to Michael Corleone in Part I and then go even deeper into Part II.

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One film later, it leads to this and completely breaks Michael as a person.

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Godfather addresses much deeper, overarching, universal themes. It is great storytelling with the mob as a backdrop.

Goodfellas is just a mob movie. You don't come away from watching it with any greater insights into life or universal truths. It entices the prurient interest about the life of a mob soldier.

Both are great movies but its pretty clear which one is better.

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Goodfellas is better and has a way higher rewatchability factor.
Agreed. And while both are longer movies, Goodfellas seems to fly by.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Goodfellas is better and has a way higher rewatchability factor.
Agreed. And while both are longer movies, Goodfellas seems to fly by.

Goodfellas is the pop music of mob movies while The Godfather is Beethoven's 9th Symphony.

One goes by quicker and appeals to more people, but there is no question of which one is superior art, and that's what films are.

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