Apropos of nothing Coppola has redone Godfather 3 the way he wanted to and to re-edit the timing of scenes. It was supposed to go to theaters one weekend then Blue Ray.

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He can edit it all he wants, but he can't fix it. I mean he can make it suck less, but fixing it just can't be done.

The film never should have been made without Robert Duvall and not paying him what he wanted was inexcusable. That can't be fixed in editing.

Also, his daughter playing Mary was also inexcusable. She has shown herself since to be a good director, but she sucks as an actress and that's another thing no editing can fix.

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Pop music is an artform unto itself and gets a bad rap

Equating Goodfellas to Steal My Sunshine is incredibly shortsighted.

If you want to compare Goodfellas to Pop music, then you have to compare it to the greatest pop song of all time (whatever that may be)

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I have been watching some of the deleted scenes for Godfather 1 and 2 on Youtube. There was good stuff that was cut out.

I love when they do the "Godfather Saga" with 1 and 2 in correct time order and with extra scenes. Unfortunately I have not found a source of stream or DVD for it.

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Goodfellas is a true story about the brutality and day to day life of the mob. Karen's monologue at Mickey's hostess party is great in illustrating that they are nothing but street thugs who like to think they live a glamorous life. Godfather is an idyllic Hollywood fantasy about the mob.

Both are great in their own way.

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Yup

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I agree. I've been rewatching The Sopranos and it's a lot more than a mob story. But what makes it really great is that you don't need to care about that if you don't want to and you can just enjoy the quality kills and Chris and Junior acting stupid if you prefer.

This is really interesting for any fan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaEGJYcy2W4

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Agreed, I have watched Sopranos a few times and now Im watching it kind of as background while working or on my phone and im really not too interested in Melfi sessions or Carmela vs Tony stuff. I know that's part of what made the show great, but just the mob stuff is a good watch, too.

What's idyllic about the life shown in The Godfather?

The last shot we have from the 1959 timeline in Part II is a completely broken, isolated, and alone Michael reflecting upon the decisions he has made and then it cuts to the 1941 timeline showing how happy everything was for Michael and his family before Michael had even thought of following in his father's footsteps. That scene with Fredo being happy for him just moments after we saw Al kill Fredo. Add in how broken Vito was before his death over Michael having taken the reigns of the family. There's nothing idyllic about it. Vito knew this and wanted differently for his youngest son. Vito may have survived the assassination in Part I, but he was dead inside the minute he was told it was Michael who avenged him. The Godfather is a tragedy.

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one person said that, you are just reading what you want to believe.

All the others who are praising goodfellas are all correct. It's a realistic movie about mob life while godfather is a hollywood-ized movie. Not bad, but not on the same level as goodfellas was.

Goodfellas was a big FU to godfather showing real mob life and how it's not romanticized like godfather made it. And the production quality is not even comparable. But I can't blame Godfather for that as they were a victim of the time , the 1970s, where production value was pretty low.

dolphin summed it up best in this thread.

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Never watched it.

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Ex-mobster Michael Franzese agrees.

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WHAAAAA?!?

He is a drug-addled, grizzled, disrespected, exiled hype at the end, whereas in the beginning he is a fucking bright-eyed teenager.

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Judging the "Superiority of Art" is always going to be a purely subjective venture.

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I think he means he hasn't grown on a personal or spiritual level.

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That would be virtually-impossible given what I highlighted above.

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yup - that proves half the guys shitting on goofdellas never watched it

The surest way to get dudes to overrate a movie is to have a big dose of the mob in it, it's like chicks and movies with Hugh Grant or Colin Firth.

Curious how This Gallery ranks Shawshank vs. any of these highly-rated films in terms of being a masterpiece of storytelling.

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Personally, I think Shawshank was better than both.

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Shawshank is the greatest movie ever made

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Wolf of Wall Street is better than anything mentioned in this thread.

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This seems like a take Rick would have

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Aren't you the same guy that wants your wife to give you a birthday striptease to the theme of Mighty Mouse?

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What percentage of that praise would be reserved for Stephen King's efforts in penning the tale?

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Henry Hill isn't meant to have a growth on a personal or spiritual level. the viewers are.

this is such a stupid thing to say. Just because you strive to tell a deeper story with universal themes doesn't mean you are better movie than a movie that doesn't strive to tell a deep story with universal themes. A lot goes into what makes a movie great and none of it has to do with how deep a story you strive to tell.

Fucking nonsense.




Show me a single scene in Godfather that was shot as amazing as the single camera scene where Henry and Karen enter the night club? Good luck..

Goodfellas is a masterpiece in cinematography, directing, acting and every other aspect of what makes a film great.


Godfather is a masterpiece as well, but Copola doesn't hold a candle to prime Scorcese.

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