The Cowboys suck.

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http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

Bottom line - Darko just summed up the whole thread.

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Kid Cairo's Boers & Bernstein YouTube Channel

Kid Cairo: 2013 March Madness Tournament Winner!

"Cowabunga? Cowa fucking piece of dog shit! This game is diarrhea coming out of my dick!"

It should be as simple as letting the numbers speak for themselves. GM's put together teams, the results on the field should do all the talking.

Hendry record as GM (since 7/5/02)

517-498 .509 winning percentage

2 Division Titles

6-9 Playoff Record

Williams record as GM (since 2001 opener)

667-593 .529 winning percentage

1 Division Title

1 World Series Championship

11-1 Playoff Record

Clear Advantage: Williams

Ummm...yeah...not so much. 13 & 3 last year...and added more talent since. You never know...but they are Super Bowl material.

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Yeah its pretty sad when Rex Grossman has won more playoff games than Tony Romo.

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Ouch that hurts. Maybe the Cowboys will get lucky and somehow find a way to get Grossman instead of Romo. They can only hope.

Who won the Bears QB derby again?

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The guy who can hold a long snap for his kicker.

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http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

Zing!!!

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Maybe the Cowboys will get lucky and find a way to win a playoff game with Tony Romo.

Were you disappointed the Cowboys didn't get Chris Henry since the Cowboys seem to use the NFL police blotter like it's a free agent list?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Romo is just building the bridge to Mike Vick.

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I'm surprised they didn't bring in OJ as running backs coach.

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Becuase as guilty as he was, he was acquitted. This team only wants real felons, not posers.

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I wonder if they have Rae Carruth's number on speed dial.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

FUNNY HOW? So you think the combo of Edmonds and Johnson is better than Swisher/Griffey? Maybe on defense but Swishers numbers are better offensively than Edmonds and Johnson. Hows that not a wash?

And if you can read it says SS is a toss up. Cabrera is not a lead off hitter and he's been hitting very well over the last few weeks. Theriot is a nice player but he is not an everyday Major League SS. Cabrera is and he is twice the SS Theriot is. With all of that I still said toss up.

And "the coach thing" Instead of laughing like you say you were, why not argue why you think Lou's better. Sorianos still leading off. He still lets Zambrano bust bats in half risking injury. I always liked Lou but Oziie is better right now.

And you lose all credibility with your objectictivity about Soriano vs Quentin. Soriano is a selfish player that does not hustle. he's a DH and he hurts your team almost as much as he helps it. Carlos Q. hustles evey play. He gets mad when he fails. No one is harder on CQ than CQ. He stands on the plate and gets drilled all the time. Hit Soriano once and he gone!

Keep laughing but put the BONG down.

retarded. lou lets zambrano break bats. ozzie lets his guys hurt themselves with pies. that is a stupid argument. its fine if you think ozzie is a better manager, but that reason is ridiculous.

THe bat thing is silly.

If you want a reason to dislike Lou, get on his ass for allowing Soriano to pose after HRs (ARam is guilty of this too) and for doing that hop for every flyball he catches.

Lou would not have the balls to pull Soriano out of a game for that kind of nonsense. Now Joe Maddon on the other hand...

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Yankee Lou, Cincy Lou or maybe Seattle Lou would've done something about that but cubbie Lou could give a shit. He's a hired gun. He's here to win and leave. Soriano could do back flips around the bases and he wouldn't say a word. I'm not saying it's a bad thing or he's a bad manager (he's a very good manager) but he's not gonna do anything to alienate his players. Soriano will be someone's else's problem in a couple months (or a year and a couple months).

i havent seen where soriano has been considered a cubs "problem" to begin with. he has been on the DL a couple times. injuries happen. he has been all they hoped he would be when healthy. i have heard nothing about him being bad in the clubhouse or anything. his poor play in left when he was clearly hurt was bad, but he has been pretty good out there since he came back from his hand, and he seems willing to play hurt when possible.

Yeah! Look at the way that Ozzie gets Cabrera and Hall to act "respectful" and toe the company line!

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I think he means "problem" in that contract of his. Its incredibly backloaded and unless Bill Gates buys the Cubs, he'll be gone by opening day 2011-- at the latest.

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if the Cubs had Billy Beane instead of Hendry, we'd have won a couple of WS's and wouldn't have the huge contracts for Marquis and Soriano...he might not have even picked up Lilly.

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Edmonds with the Cubs .958 OPS
Johnson .829 OPS

Griffey with the Sox .625
Swisher .778
Wise .784
Anderson .727

I don't really care about any of the other arguments in this thread, but the Cubs clearly have better offensive production in CF.

OC is overrated, but I would gladly take his glove out there over Theriot's, and be more than willing to give up Theriot's bat. OC is not a leadoff hitter anyway, but given the role he has been put into here in Chicago, you cannot ask for much more out of the guy. OC may not have the rocket arm most shortstops do, but he's a very good defensive play. Range wise, Theriot is at or near the bottom of the barrel.

And you can't compare Ichiro to Theriot. One leads off, one doesnt. One burns up the basepaths, one doesnt- not to say that theriot is slow, but he has nowhere near the speed or base running/stealing ability as Ichiro. Ichiro also has more power, and Wrigley is not that hard to hit HRs in. And I know its 2 different positions, but regarding outfielders, Ichiro defensively is head and shoulders above Theriot when you compare him to other shortstops.

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Everytime I tune in to the Sox, this guy, Alexei Ramirez, is making one sweet play after another in the field, and he is also knocking the ball out of park some too. I know Carlos Quinten is putting up big offensive numbers...but I think this guy might be the best player on the team.

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Well, Frank, that's probably why you're a guitarist and not a GM.

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The cowboys suck.

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I think the shortstop position is probably about a wash. The OBP favors Theriot by a pretty wide margin (.395 to .325), but Theriot is a league-average defensive shortstop (one run below average, according to baseball prospectus) and Cabrera is well above average. At the plate, BP has Theriot as 4 runs above average, mostly based on the walk rate, with Cabrera seven runs below average.

Whether you agree or not, they have left field as pretty much a wash as well. Quentin is listed as 40 runs above average at the plate and 6 runs below average. Soriano is listed as 13 above offensively and 7 above defensively, but Soriano has fewer games by far this year, and runs above replacement is a cumulative statistic; according to the Soriano line in 2007, he was 19 runs above average both offensively and defensively in 122 games. I'd still take Quentin, especially going forward, but the comp is closer than you might think.

Second base favors the Cubs. Alexei Ramirex simply doesn't get on base enough (.328 OBP), counting for only 6 runs above average at the plate. His defense is also bad, 13 runs below average and actually below replacement level. He's having a nice rookie campaign, and maybe he develops a better batting eye with time, but you need more than 2 walks a month, especially if those singles stop falling in for a stretch. Derosa is listed as 14 runs above average at the plate and another 8 above average in the field. The average is lower, but the OBP is almost 50 points higher (.377) with more power.

Right field is easy for the Sox, third base is easy for the Cubs, as is first base, although neither teams' first basemen are lighting up the league.

Catcher goes to the Cubs as well, to a large degree on the strength of Soto's defense. Pierzinski is 2 runs above average at the plate and 4 runs below behind it. Soto is 16 runs above at the plate and 5 above behind it. In fact, this position may be the biggest disparity between the two teams (maybe third for the Cubs, maybe right field for the Sox.)

For a good explanation of Runs above replacement level, which is closely related, see here: http://www.stathead.com/bbeng/woolner/vorpdescnew.htm

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Fire Phil Emery

1.) Look at Edmonds numbers with the Cubs, not the whole year. The Cubs numbers are the only ones relevant since we are comparing the teams. I like Swish, but Edmonds numbers are blowing his out of the water since being in Chicago. Whether he will sustain the success is entirely another question, and a valid one. Also Reed Johnson is a better player at this point in his career than Griffey, as much as I hate to say it.

2.) Cabrera is a very good defensive SS, but IMO he's overrated. I'd much rather have Theriot and you are stupid to say he's not an every day ML SS. He's not only that, but a damn good one. Maybe he only hits singles, but so does Ichiro and look at the kudos he's received in his career.

3.) There's noone in the world that I think would be able to convince me that Lou or Ozzie are definitively better than the other. They both have been successful and are among the best in MLB. If you want to give Lou brownie points for not being nearly as offensive and non-family friendly go ahead, but I dont care about that stuff.

Also, Im a Sox fan so dont think this is a meatball Cub fan calling you an idiot for being a Sox fan. It's a Sox fan calling you an idiot because you are for some reason trying to go to extremes to prove the point Kenny is better than Hendry and failing miserably.[/quote]


Thank you for making every point for me. I dont smoke weed, but if I read any more of that guys posts I might need too.

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OC is the 3rd best SS in the city.

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