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The thing is, requiring a minimum balance wouldn’t work either. A lot of “pro” money has joined in on this, so even if they kept out the little guy, the tactic is now exposed.

Those guys care about making a profit though. The big difference here is the YOLO investors that are treating this like a gofundme page to buy a share or two and they don't really care if it goes to $0. It's like putting a $100 bet on the winner of the Super Bowl. Most of the fun comes from the game. Winning is a bonus.


You just described 98% of people who play the market

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Guy on CNBC just played the "Hedge funds have employees too!" card. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: GameStop
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Guy on CNBC just played the "Hedge funds have employees too!" card. :lol:

They'll be fine. Didn't they get their $600 checks?

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Guy on CNBC just played the "Hedge funds have employees too!" card. :lol:

They'll be fine. Didn't they get their $600 checks?


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 Post subject: Re: GameStop
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The stock market exists to allocate capital and raise capital for business who need it. How is shorting a stock beneficial to anyone within that system other than just a sheer gamble that it will happen?


Shorting takes the capital from poorly-run companies and transfers it to companies that could put it to better use. In theory.

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The brokers are literally picking a side right now, and personal investors are going to feel the brunt of this. It's complete garbage and Robinhood will feel the pain of caving from their users for awhile.



I'm sure when a free market alternative to Robinhood becomes popular Google and AWS will collude to have it removed from the Internet.

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On CNBC they have on Amy Lynch a former SEC regulator, who said it's unusual for a company like Robinhood to restrict trades, but they have to be in contact with and have the blessings of regulators.

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 Post subject: Re: GameStop
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Jaw Breaker wrote:
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The stock market exists to allocate capital and raise capital for business who need it. How is shorting a stock beneficial to anyone within that system other than just a sheer gamble that it will happen?


Shorting takes the capital from poorly-run companies and transfers it to companies that could put it to better use. In theory.



I agree but think it's a bit different. It takes capital from overvalued companies, and transfers it to companies that are undervalued.

You can have a really well run, wonderful company, that just happens to be overvalued. A short position can come in (theoretically) and put downward pressure on the company to more align the price with the "proper" value for the company.


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Guy on CNBC just played the "Hedge funds have employees too!" card. :lol:



Fuck these people! They thought it was cute when a bunch of poor people lost their homes.


It's time for The Big Short II- Revenge of the Proles. I think Ryan Gosling should play Spiral Stairs.

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 Post subject: Re: GameStop
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I will say, imagine being a guy that just had 100 share of gamestop a month ago because you did think it's a good investment.

Man, how fucking berserk would that be to see the investment take off like this.


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The stock market exists to allocate capital and raise capital for business who need it. How is shorting a stock beneficial to anyone within that system other than just a sheer gamble that it will happen?


Shorting takes the capital from poorly-run companies and transfers it to companies that could put it to better use. In theory.



I agree but think it's a bit different. It takes capital from overvalued companies, and transfers it to companies that are undervalued.

You can have a really well run, wonderful company, that just happens to be overvalued. A short position can come in (theoretically) and put downward pressure on the company to more align the price with the "proper" value for the company.


Agreed

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 Post subject: Re: GameStop
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We touched on it a bit earlier in the thread, but there has to be something the company can do to benefit from this, no? Seems crazy that these guys are just sitting in the board room as spectators, knowing that in a few days/weeks/months, the stock will be back at $20.

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 Post subject: Re: GameStop
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We touched on it a bit earlier in the thread, but there has to be something the company can do to benefit from this, no? Seems crazy that these guys are just sitting in the board room as spectators, knowing that in a few days/weeks/months, the stock will be back at $20.

Can't they issue more shares?

Sell Sell Sell

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We touched on it a bit earlier in the thread, but there has to be something the company can do to benefit from this, no? Seems crazy that these guys are just sitting in the board room as spectators, knowing that in a few days/weeks/months, the stock will be back at $20.
In a few weeks they will buy Disney.

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 Post subject: Re: GameStop
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We touched on it a bit earlier in the thread, but there has to be something the company can do to benefit from this, no? Seems crazy that these guys are just sitting in the board room as spectators, knowing that in a few days/weeks/months, the stock will be back at $20.
In a few weeks they will buy Disney.


Yesterday, someone on CNBC pointed out GME now had the same market cap as Delta Airlines (and that was before the jump to $400+).

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It's pretty cool that there seems to be agreement that this is funny, regardless of political affiliation. Finally, something most non-1%ers can agree on.

Anyone who holds cryptos should consider getting into dogecoin just for fun. I'm not sure what the actual point of pumping dogecoin is, but it seems to be happening. It is up a few hundred percent since yesterday.


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Anyone who holds cryptos should consider getting into dogecoin just for fun. I'm not sure what the actual point of pumping dogecoin is, but it seems to be happening. It is up a few hundred percent since yesterday.


Elon is on board!

My wife had to explain the Doge meme to me. I still don't really get it.

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Anyone who holds cryptos should consider getting into dogecoin just for fun. I'm not sure what the actual point of pumping dogecoin is, but it seems to be happening. It is up a few hundred percent since yesterday.


Elon is on board!

My wife had to explain the Doge meme to me. I still don't really get it.


Nor do I, but it just bought me a new snowblower.


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Guy on CNBC just played the "Hedge funds have employees too!" card. :lol:

Learn to code?

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Look at the volume. Insanely low.

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Look at the volume. Insanely low.

Same shit happened on Monday.

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The stock market exists to allocate capital and raise capital for business who need it. How is shorting a stock beneficial to anyone within that system other than just a sheer gamble that it will happen?


Shorting takes the capital from poorly-run companies and transfers it to companies that could put it to better use. In theory.



I agree but think it's a bit different. It takes capital from overvalued companies, and transfers it to companies that are undervalued.

You can have a really well run, wonderful company, that just happens to be overvalued. A short position can come in (theoretically) and put downward pressure on the company to more align the price with the "proper" value for the company.


Agreed


Agree in theory, but a well-functioning market could do the same with regular trade volume.

I wouldn't declare that we need to make shorting stocks illegal, but we certainly can't put a cap on the risk that goes along with it. A free/fair market is a free/fair market. They know these risks when they get in, just as they knew the risks when they were buying and selling mortgage-backed securities at absurd rates. There are never real market ramifications for the "hedge fund crowd." What the Feds are doing with quantitative easing and printing of money is also just a bailout to investment companies. The inflation will eventually crush the middle and lower classes, but that's okay as long as the Wolves can hold their EV stocks at PE ratios in the hundreds. Some investment firms just had their best quarters in history as the fundamentals of our real economy continue to suffer. I hate to take such black-and-white positions, but basically, yeah, fuck them.

It's pretty amazing that some plebes reading Reddit punished them in a way that the market/government (same thing) never could.


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Looks like the hedge funds won. All they had to do was destroy a few trading platforms.

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I have no idea what is going on here. Can somebody post a quick summary? If this has been done already, I apologize.

Thanks

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HOOOOOLD. These fucks want it under $200 soooooo bad.

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Looks like the hedge funds won. All they had to do was destroy a few trading platforms.

I can't even say they won, they're still down an enormous sum on their short positions. Any victory here by them is pyrrhic.

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This story is being taken up a notch. The brokers now seem to be helping the hedge funds into a dip because you can sell your shares but not buy them and people who don't have multiple accounts have no option.

The SEC needs to investigate that.

Perfectly legal. Shady but legal.


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