I'm not missing any point. It's just two extreme sides. "Lock everything down" vs. "Only the old and nearly dead are dying from this".

If you look at the numbers it is overwhelmingly old people who are dying from this, front page anecdotes about 6 year olds aside.

That describes most diseases though.

Right. But we haven't destroyed the country over them.

Right. But we haven't destroyed the country over them.

well that's the bite of a pandemic. you're fucked either way.

I am not a legal expert, how many times do I have to say it?

LOL.

Half or more of our downtown area never shut down. Complete collapse. Aren’t you usually the one mocking hyperbole? You’re losing it dude.

It's going to be impossible to get food or drink this summer. All the restaurants and bars are gone.

I am not a legal expert, how many times do I have to say it?

Okay, Boomer.

I was thinking the other day about how scarcity of resources and a failure to beat back covid will probably mean that we'll legalize euthanasia at the federal level during this administration, but we live in America, so we'll have to give it a name like "the Strategic Compassion Initiative."

Regarding office space, there was a point in the early 90s where many downtown properties were offering the last 5 years rent-free on a 10 year lease for a full floor. One reason? The fax machine meant that fewer businesses had to have a downtown Chicago presence, especially law firms and banking-related businesses.

Banking consolidation had already created vacancies in the West Loop in the last decade, and more jobs were moving west of the River and closer to the two big Metra stations. I haven't visited the Loop for a full year now, but a lot of those jobs will likely go to a mix of remote and regional.

Several B/B- office buildings in the Loop were converted to hotels in the last decade. It used to be the W City Center (the old Midland) was really the only thing near the CBOT, otherwise you walked over to the Palmer House. Now there are probably 1000 more rooms between the JW Marriott, the Gray, the Hyatt across from the Chase Tower, and even a LaQuinta and a Hyatt Place over on Franklin. If nobody is traveling for business and nothing is at McCormick place, there are going to be some expensive failures.

The Loop is headed towards an era similar to the late 80s, where everything was a ghost town at 6pm. I worked 3-8pm weekdays during those days, and it was pretty grimey on both sides of the river.

The only saving grace is that the South Loop is dozens of times more vibrant than 30 years ago. Much more housing, for example. Even the jail isn't much of a deterrent. If storefront rents along Dearborn, State, and Wabash come down, there is a chance that that quadrant becomes much more of a real neighborhood.

This person is seriously a fucking retard.

You have to also take into consideration the residential build up of the west loop (Westgate neighborhood now) and the increase of residential within the loop itself.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

I work remotely but I can't run off because state-by-state labor laws still exist. Also, a lot of those could just be secondary residences. South Florida is miserable in the summer, and natives are often as eager to move out as transplants are to move in.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

If I was ever going to move to Florida or get a 2nd home there, Destin would be the place for that reason. If I was to go to South Florida, I'd argue that the Gulf Coast is better.

If I was ever going to move to Florida or get a 2nd home there, Destin would be the place for that reason. If I was to go to South Florida, I'd argue that the Gulf Coast is better.