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 Post subject: Re: Carson Wentz
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Seems like the Cutler trade part 2.

I would not give up a first round pick.

You and I were immediately on the right side of history with the Cutler trade but this one would be significantly worse.


I hated the cutty trade from day 1..Mac was the only voice of reason on the score..All those other dipshits were ecstatic.

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 Post subject: Re: Carson Wentz
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The difference being is that Cutler is way better than Wentz.

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 Post subject: Re: Carson Wentz
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2 1sts is too much for Wentz. I wouldnt do that


I wouldn't give up a 6th for him.. That contract is horrendous. He gets hurt every year.

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 Post subject: Re: Carson Wentz
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The difference being is that Cutler is way better than Wentz.


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 Post subject: Re: Carson Wentz
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i hated culter but ya, he is better than Wentz right now. And maybe long term too.


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2 1sts is too much for Wentz. I wouldnt do that


I wouldn't give up a 6th for him.. That contract is horrendous. He gets hurt every year.

1 bad year. And the talent around him kinda sucks. No running back, bad receivers and Ertz getting old


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 Post subject: Re: Carson Wentz
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
The difference being is that Cutler is way better than Wentz.

At least statistically, Wentz is better than Cutler through 5 years.

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Watson has a 4 win shit sandwich of a season, and everyone wants to trade 6 future 1st round picks for him.

Stat Paddord has a 2, 4, 6, 3 and 5 win season and he fetches two 1st round picks.

Wentz gets too much hate.

By your "win" standard then they should just keep Mitch. He has only 1 losing season and was 11-3, 8-7, and 6-3 over his last 3. Wentz has 3 losing seasons in 5 years. Plus Mitch he would only cost them money...and less money to boot.

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2 1sts is too much for Wentz. I wouldnt do that


I wouldn't give up a 6th for him.. That contract is horrendous. He gets hurt every year.

1 bad year. And the talent around him kinda sucks. No running back, bad receivers and Ertz getting old


Agreed..but his contract is brutal and he gets hurt too often.

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 Post subject: Re: Carson Wentz
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The difference being is that Cutler is way better than Wentz.

At least statistically, Wentz is better than Cutler through 5 years.

Different eras though.

I think Cutler is better if only for the durability.


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2 1sts is too much for Wentz. I wouldnt do that


I wouldn't give up a 6th for him.. That contract is horrendous. He gets hurt every year.

1 bad year. And the talent around him kinda sucks. No running back, bad receivers and Ertz getting old


Agreed..but his contract is brutal and he gets hurt too often.

The Eagles gave up on him because they think he's done. Doesn't matter if it's due to injury.

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 Post subject: Re: Carson Wentz
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Brick wrote:
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The difference being is that Cutler is way better than Wentz.

At least statistically, Wentz is better than Cutler through 5 years.
Hypothetical Cutler or real Cutler?

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 Post subject: Re: Carson Wentz
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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The difference being is that Cutler is way better than Wentz.

At least statistically, Wentz is better than Cutler through 5 years.
Hypothetical Cutler or real Cutler?

:lol: The real one this time.

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 Post subject: Re: Carson Wentz
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Brick wrote:
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The difference being is that Cutler is way better than Wentz.

At least statistically, Wentz is better than Cutler through 5 years.

Just looking at raw numbers or you comparing their numbers to their peers here?

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 Post subject: Re: Carson Wentz
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Wentz in his 5 years has 3 seasons Cutty could never replicate over his whole career. This isn't even close.

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 Post subject: Re: Carson Wentz
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The difference being is that Cutler is way better than Wentz.

At least statistically, Wentz is better than Cutler through 5 years.

Just looking at raw numbers or you comparing their numbers to their peers here?

I don't think it's that far apart in terms of stat inflation.

If anything, 113 touchdowns and 50 interceptions vs. 94 touchdowns and 79 interceptions for his first 5 years gives the edge to Wentz.

Now, if Wentz really can't play any more then obviously it's a problem.

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 Post subject: Re: Carson Wentz
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Really the Bears should just go with Mac Jones in the 1st and then a flyer someone like Ian Book in the 5th. If they took enough swings, surely they can hit at some point.


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Wentz career QB rating: 89.2

Cutler's 8 years on the Bears QB rating: 85.2 (without the cant touch the qb rules)


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Remember when that fucking dope Pace said he was going to draft young QB every year? Then he proceeds to bring in journeyman bums to back up (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. Maybe if dumbass did what he said, we would have lucked into an interesting prospect like Hurts. I can't believe we are letting this dope have another crack at finding a QB.


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Really the Bears should just go with Mac Jones in the 1st and then a flyer someone like Ian Book in the 5th. If they took enough swings, surely they can hit at some point.

That's probably true but by bringing back Pace and Nagy they seem to have eliminated that option. Win now or goodbye.

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Remember when that fucking dope Pace said he was going to draft young QB every year? Then he proceeds to bring in journeyman bums to back up (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. Maybe if dumbass did what he said, we would have lucked into an interesting prospect like Hurts. I can't believe we are letting this dope have another crack at finding a QB.

If it makes you feel better, he signed Foles and Glennon to start for the Bears. It just so happens that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was actually better than both.

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I can't believe we are letting this dope have another crack at finding a QB.

It really is a little hard to believe

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Pace and Nagy are on the hot seat so they are desperate enough to give two first rounders for a name. Why would they care about the future?


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That 2nd round pick is really more like a 2nd round pick.

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I can't believe we are letting this dope have another crack at finding a QB.

It really is a little hard to believe
It's really not. This is what the Bears/McCaskeys do.

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Bears already have a #11.

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There going to give up a first (maybe multiple) for this bum.

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