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 Post subject: Re: Carson Wentz
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 Post subject: Re: Carson Wentz
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Can already hear the excuses from Hub, Parkins, Grote..if Wentz comes here. In training camp, "He's has to learn his teammates, but they had a great practice", after early season struggles, "We all know how hard it is to learn Nagy's system", after mid season loss, "Wentz seems to be struggling with accuracy/reads, but this is a tough system to learn", at end of year from George, "We see signs of progress despite our 4-12 record, and I really like Matt and Ryan, so we are not making any changes".


I'm pretty sure Hub thinks Wentz is a generational talent.

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Drift in the Gulf? At least go to the Atlantic side....

Who wants to wash up on the Redneck Riviera?

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Drift in the Gulf? At least go to the Atlantic side....

Who wants to wash up on the Redneck Riviera?


Gulf side is much nicer than the Atlantic side.

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 Post subject: Re: Carson Wentz
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I enjoyed that one. Mays is easily one of the best NFL guys out there so I enjoy that he’s a Bears fan.

Wentz to Bears talk seemed to die down heavily overnight on Twitter. Wondering if it was just a rumor that got carried away or if this morning is the calm before the storm there.

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Sounds like the Colts will save Pace from himself, Wentz could do real good behind that O line and solid coaching.

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If not Wentz then whom? In terms of a trade I’ve seen Carr & Tua (convoluted 3-way with Houston) mentioned. Neither seems likely. UFA pickings are pretty slim - Teddy B? Fitz? Mitch? Dak?

I’m starting to lean toward Fitzpatrick as the starter and a qb in the 1st. Pace rolls the dice that they get the good Fitz enough that they make the playoffs and save his job. That buys time for the rookie to develop.

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You go with your choice of Foles and whatever QB you can get in the late rounds.

Worse thing you can do is over pay for a QB that is slightly better then Foles at best. If Pace and Nagy hit on a late round QB then all is forgiven in Chicago.

It's a gamble but so are all these trades and UFA signings. Go 3-13 next year and have a shot at one of the top QB's if this blows up in your face.

Problem with this is Pace is in win now mode and can't afford to go 3-13 or he will be fired. This is what dumbass George Mccasky doesn't understand about having your GM be your ONLY football guy who makes decisions. Pace will make the best decision for himself, not the Bears.


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 Post subject: Re: Carson Wentz
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George has created a nightmare scenario, he's retained a GM that will likely gut the future of his franchise in an effort to save his job and has retained a coach that was hired based on the premise that he would develop the team offensively, but cannot identify/develop/coach NFL offense at anything more than a bottom 5 level.

That's what you get when you fill your organization with family and yes men/women, abject failure from top to bottom. The franchise needs to launch everyone from Ted on down, bring in a football guy to run all football operations, and have George go kiss babies and do fundraising walks, anything that keeps him away from football operations.

The Bears have a huge market and engaged fandom all to themselves they should be one of the leading franchises in the NFL, ownership is the only thing holding them back.


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 Post subject: Re: Carson Wentz
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This seems like the type of thing the Bears would do.. and overpaying to do it adds up with them. I’ve had a bad feeling about all this ever since it was announced they’d be retained.


Like I said in another thread -this will get embarrassing before it gets better. You have two guys in Pace and Nagy that have done nothing but show that they have no idea what they’re doing since they’ve been brought here. That’s not going to change now.


On a side note, I’m not sure I even dislike Wentz, but I also don’t see him being the answer to all the problems. His accuracy is questionable, and he has an injury history.

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It's happening.

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 Post subject: Re: Carson Wentz
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Does Wentz have a trade clause? Why would he choose the Bears over the Colts?


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I keep seeing shit like this on Twitter this week. There's no way the Bears could possibly be this dumb, right?



I can't say no to this question with any degree of confidence.

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Fuck it.

Trade for him and either you get a deep playoff run or a horrible season resulting in a housecleaning of the football organization.

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Time for a 2nd team in Chicago.


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:lol: This is great. Love that it’s actually happening

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The amount of draft picks and money that Pace will have blown on the QB position is truly remarkable. Also remarkable will be the fact that they still don't have a good QB.


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This has the potential to be the worst trade ever involving a QB named Carson.

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So Pace and Nagy are putting their career on the line with Wentz.

Fuck Fuck Fuck.

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I can't wait til this fails miserably.

Fuck this stupid franchise.

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At least the new regime will have their first rounder in 22 under that trade. Betting against the Bears with Wentz will be profitable next season if it happens.

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If it is only 1 first rounder then it won't be quite as bad. But still awful.

Cohen and Foles...who cares.

But knowing the Bears by the time the dust settles it will be 2 first rounders and 2 second rounders

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No problem with that trade.

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No problem with that trade.



How is Carson Wentz worth a first round pick in your view?

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Insane that Carson Wentz commands a first round pick plus two starters. :lol:

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The beauty of this is that Foles will end up being better than Wentz.

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